Just an odd idea on ''Greys''

Ok, this is just an odd idea I have been tossng around in my head and just haven't had the chance to throw it up here on ATS.
Now I do want to make it clear that all said within this posting is not by my own experience, contact or any of the sort.
It is strictly based upon some of that which I have read, heard, seen, etc.
Just wondering what others who hold an interest in the topic think about it.


I have read many things about the greys, as well as other races that are said to be scattered throughout the vast universe.
In doing so I have come across more than a handful of claims that the greys used to look alot like us and so on.
Some say that radiation exposure, of either large amounts or over a long period of time damaged their
DNA and caused them to evolve into what they are currently.
Thus the reason they abduct humans is due to our DNA being compatible with theirs in an attempt to fix their race.

Alright then, there are also those who claim the greys have the ability to flow freely through what we call time.
If all of the above were to be found true then basically we have:
1. A race of beings whose DNA matches or closely
matches ours.
2. A race that once looked like us, but due to
radiation exposure damaging their DNA
''mutated'' more or less.
3. A highly technological race capable of ''time
travel''

Keep in mind I'm just kind of going off memory here but I think I hit most of the relevant points.

One possible scenario....
What if they are the human race of the future?
Being capable of time travel could explain them being here.
There are beliefs that they live underground in some areas, why stay on Earth? (if they do)

The DNA similarity\compatibility would then add up when looked at from this angle.
As far as the radiation exposure goes, well we dont have to look far on that one, not in the light of only the current situation but also the what if this replays again?

It could also make a good argument for the skin color as well as the large eyes.
Think about it....living underground to escape radiation for a long period of time, would definetly pale your skin greatly.
Your vision would be greatly impared in a no to little light scenario, thus evolving larger eyes with a sensitivity to light, another trait I have heard they have.
Also their eyes are all black in the majority of descriptions, would this maybe possible that their eyes are all pupil so to speak?
Ours dialate, theirs is all pupil, open to any light in pitch dark to better their vision in their ''normal'' enviornment?

Anyway just a thought I've had for a few weeks.
Feel free to add to.
Im up for any other maybes and mights....just have fun with it.

Good post, this especially -

Think about it....living underground to escape radiation for a long period of time, would definetly pale your skin greatly. Your vision would be greatly impared in a no to little light scenario, thus evolving larger eyes with a sensitivity to light, another trait I have heard they have. Also their eyes are all black in the majority of descriptions, would this maybe possible that their eyes are all pupil so to speak?

Both valid points.

I still have a problem with what you mentioned - Why hang around Earth

Originally posted by Signals
Good post, this especially -

Think about it....living underground to escape radiation for a long period of time, would definetly pale your skin greatly. Your vision would be greatly impared in a no to little light scenario, thus evolving larger eyes with a sensitivity to light, another trait I have heard they have. Also their eyes are all black in the majority of descriptions, would this maybe possible that their eyes are all pupil so to speak?

Both valid points.

I still have a problem with what you mentioned - Why hang around Earth

Not sure I am grasping the "why hang around Earth" part either. I did, however, find the rest of it very interesting.

Off topic: Signals, your other avatar used to crack me up. What gives?

reply to post by Signals


I think maybe what he's getting at is -

1. Current human beings
2. Radiation causes us to move underground
3. We spend generation after generation underground eventually evolving new characteristics
4. Throughout all this time our technology progresses to the point of time (and space) travel
5. We'd like to not be so hideous anymore so we go back in time (to now) to "adopt" some genes of our ancestors.

Pretty terrifying prospect if you ask me!

That's my fault, I didn't follow through on that one lol. Was just going with the flow as it came, tripped myself a bit there.

There being much belief that they live beneath the surface of the Earth would also go hand in hand with them being the human race of the future, they havent left because Earth would be their home as well.

reply to post by TheSilverGate


Great post, I really enjoyed reading it. I have read some theories that suggest that the big black eyes aren't eyes at all, but are goggles or some sort of sunglasses due to their sensitivity to light.

Ever read the science-fiction novel: " The time machine " ?
Not only have they developed larger eyes, but also a hunger for human flesh....here...from the movie...fits in perfectly with your theory:



now I finally get: " as above as so below. "..they're probably living beneath us as we speak...

I believe greys could not be our future. At least thats my opinion. Because if we look back to our history, our physical features have not changed much. They have digged up human remains from a million years which had very similar features to us. I know greys are from Orion and I believe that. Greys are androids work as a slave labor to reptillians. Cheers.

reply to post by dude69


The Morlocks! lol ah yes I have read it many times.
Spent a few years with no tv as a kid.
Did me good, no tv=alot more reading...developed a nice collection of books.
But I believe the morlocks were furry, slumped over with their arms almost touching the ground, large red eyes, ape like creatures grey in color and smelled bad. Well the last two have been associated with the two...

reply to post by OptimusSubprime


Thats interesting, possible. It would also fit in well with the military abduction ''mask'' too. Part of a suit.... What if the greys are just a suit to something else inside....hmmm

The star system of Zeta Reticuli is also another common explanation of where they are from. When it is said that they are from our future, perhaps both of these explanations are right? They use to be of human form so many generations ago, but with nuclear war, space travel and cloning this is what they have become. Sneaky aliens that form covert alliances with unlawful bodies that perform terrifying and unconsenting abductions. The universe is a big place with many possibilities and outcomes. A future path like this is one I would rather avoid.

Originally posted by TheSilverGate
Thus the reason they abduct humans is due to our DNA being compatible with theirs in an attempt to fix their race.

This is for me where so much about the "Greys" falls down. An advanced species would know that there is no need to abduct tens of thousands of humans for DNA. A single human cell (with a few exceptions) contains the whole genome. You would only need a few samples and there is certainly no need to subject humans to some of the experiences reported to obtain DNA.

If there is a physical abduction then there has to be another explanation - unless you believe that the phenomenon is not physical in the first place.

Originally posted by Signals
Good post, this especially -

Think about it....living underground to escape radiation for a long period of time, would definetly pale your skin greatly. Your vision would be greatly impared in a no to little light scenario, thus evolving larger eyes with a sensitivity to light, another trait I have heard they have. Also their eyes are all black in the majority of descriptions, would this maybe possible that their eyes are all pupil so to speak?

Both valid points.

I still have a problem with what you mentioned - Why hang around Earth

Can't leave maybe?

- There was a very big war/sickness/invasion/natural disaster, the only tech they have left allows them to go back in time, but they can't leave the planet, it is not designed to go out on space or to travel to deep space or beyond the solar system? and they don't have the numbers/resources to build a spaceship or to colonize other planet/could not find any other planet that supports similar life?
- They came specifically to this planet looking for something in the past, something that may not exist anywhere else/at any other point in time?

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by TheSilverGate
Thus the reason they abduct humans is due to our DNA being compatible with theirs in an attempt to fix their race.

This is for me where so much about the "Greys" falls down. An advanced species would know that there is no need to abduct tens of thousands of humans for DNA. A single human cell (with a few exceptions) contains the whole genome. You would only need a few samples and there is certainly no need to subject humans to some of the experiences reported to obtain DNA.

If there is a physical abduction then there has to be another explanation - unless you believe that the phenomenon is not physical in the first place.

That's assuming they want to fix their 'current' race, what about the possibility that they are here trying to modify the existing race to avoid something very bad in the future? and that they have been at several different points in time and this is the most close they can get to 'fix us' before whatever is going to happen happens? maybe they are trying to prevent us turning into them, just thinking, but that would be a closer possibility i guess, and it would require a lot of testing on the current race, like injecting or modifying adn or whatever, then infecting the subject and see what happens and so on? we can't know, but the future may hold something really really bad and they are not really able to do so much.

Think about it, maybe they have scientists that are not that very good, maybe something really bad happened and they do have time machines, but they are not really well prepared or no one that could fix things survived, so they get whoever they can get, medicine students or whatever, and send them back so that they can work on the solution in a world that is still full of resources and where they may still find whatever they need to find a cure?

this would be a good script for a movie..

problem with scenario mentioned above. If they went back in time to solve a problem that normal alien scientist couldn't figure out because they were dead then couldn't they travel back to a point where they could contact themselves for help and resources.

Here is the deal. I believe in a concept known as the multi-verse theory in which every action every little decision that is ever made by all living beings through different periods of times creates an individual universe in which anything could or would have happened as a result of something.

This could range from you scoring a date with a female you wouldn't have a chance with... to Africa colonizing europe and Asia and being the planets super power. When you have deja vu' or when you dream you can pear into one of these infinite universes.

You can travel in time because what happened 5 minutes ago or 500000 years ago still exists somewhere in the fabric of reality.

This would make time travel tricky business Going back in time and changing anything would only have an effect on the aliens existence in the universe their physical bodies are in creating a new wave of ripples.

That being said If the can travel back in time or pinpoint certain realities to jump/phase into on the universal time stream it would be easier to travel back or jump into a universe in which whatever they tried to avoid took place.

If there was a major plague or catastophe there is a universe in which things are simliar yet the events did not take place.

If they were truly jumping time streams ad dimensions and had the tech to go back to their exact reality. The original one they came from then.... mass experiments would be pointless. Such tech would be used for resource aquisition, to vacation, to avoid major problems by relocating realities etc. They would be able to caculate optimum jump points in the time stream every time. This species could potentially live for aeons... However this is all an assumption... We don't know how the universe works

But the time travel theory to repair DNA... Highly unlikely. When humans eventually develop time travel in the future it will be a rare occurrence that one of the potential future races from different time periods and races, etc. would appear in our individual time stream. If it didn't happen in our universe it happened somewhere else and vise versa.

Greys... A relatively advanced species that exist in our timeline. There is a possibility they are multi dimension beings from an alternate earth or different ripple in the time stream.

No matter what they are alien from our current world.

in short coming back in time to fiddle around with things will only effect our future not the one they came from.

Very interesting thread and theories!

Here are some thoughts of mine:

1. IF they are "future us" (which I often thought about as well) and are capable of time travel they surely try to fix something in their future or just sneak on us because they want to see/ experience "our time string" (if the multi-universe theory is true).

2. IF they come from another solar system/ planet system (Zeta Reticuli... you name it) they might just be interested in us like we are when exploring new worlds like deep down Sea or Space. Maybe we are even an experiment/ product of them.

3. Maybe they "know" about "evolution" (as we would call it, maybe there's a general law which is known among the advanced species in outer space) and know exactly in what evolution peaks and how long it takes to reach "certain levels". If we assume the Grays are another species they know when something in their DNA key went wrong and maybe us humans are right now in the stage they need to fix it - therefore abductions and "breeding programs".

4. Maybe they are nonsexual beings (as often reported - no sexes could be made out) and just copy and copy themselves each time. With every copy the data/ DNA will get more and more corrupted (like if you record something from the speakers with a microphone and again and again, the sound quality will get worse each time) and they need to refresh their DNA...

just my 2 cents

Enjoying the ideas and inputs, alot of them are very interesting, things I havent considered.
A few of which really got me thinking.

They have a hard time processing sunlight due to long periods underground. This is also why they have been forced to become asexual. All of this is of course in demand for them and they are, in my opinion, here to somehow "fix" themselves.

That's an interesting observation and theory, but one thing bugs me. If they are us in the future (Visiting us to repair thier DNA mutation back to "Human" form), Then with the technology they have adopted and the thousands upon thousands of years they have been visiting earth (And extracting our DNA), What the hell is taking them so long?

They're advanced enough to build craft to get off this planet and travel time as you say...But they are inadequate in dealing with DNA?

I'm not sure.

Maybe we are them in the future (And they have sorted out thier DNA problem), and they're just checking that it's not going tits up anytime soon?

EDIT: Maybe that would explain all the ancient Petroglyphic (depictions) and Megalithic structures and so fourth.

Someone posted a clip of "The Time Machine", one of my favourites; I have it on my drive, might watch it later.

I don't mean to sound as if i'm knocking your theory, but it doesn't add up (completely) for me. However nothing is impossible, anything is possible and everything can't be explained.