Has anyone seen this symbol?

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by donatellanator

Originally posted by Frater210

So maybe if we think outside of the 'symbolism box' we can do some of our own creative work with this.

Standing by.

This thread is making my head spin.

Just as religions all share a common thread, so do all the suggestions here. There is no definitive right answer. I hope that isn't what the OP wanted.

As for outside the symbolism box, a story:

My NDE was nowhere near as terrifying as her experience. I saw the things most important to me on the physical plane floating around in grey space... A voice kept telling me, everything will be okay... there is nothing to fear... death and life are cut from the same fabric of eternity. There is no reason to fear death when immortality is also within you.

It also told me to live my life more simply. After that experience my life has changed dramatically and most of it wasn't driven by my intentions... it was driven by coincidence and "following the path". Life has become more exciting and I no longer fear death.

Before then that was my greatest weakness...being afraid and considering the materialistic opinions of others too highly.

Perhaps the OP's weakness was revealed to her in symbolic terms... rarely does an answer just "pop out from the sky". Part of life's journey is to decipher and eliminate your bad traits and learn to be the best person possible.

I don't want to delve too deeply in the OP's life, but perhaps going back to before the accident and considering how the words "as above, so below" may apply would be of great service.

I am surprised no one has written the phrase in it's entirety. Here it is and an example of applying this law of correspondence:

2) Correspondence -- "As above so below; as below so above; as within so without; as without so within."

This law tells us that things which appear to be very different have attributes that are actually quite similar. It also tells us that by studying one thing we can learn about something else. That, for example, is exactly what statistical samples are all about. By examining a small portion of a population, a determination can be made as to what those same attributes are for the entire population.

How many times have you heard these lines? --- "By their fruits, you shall know them." --- "As you sew, so shall you reap." --- "Birds of a feather flock together." --- "He lied about this, so he's probably lying about that."

APPLYING THE LAW: Here's a way you can intentionally use the Law of Correspondence to understand other people. Carefully watch those people with whom you are planning to create a relationship. Regardless of the nature of the relationship, be it business, friend, or lover: Whatever you see them doing elsewhere, whatever you see them doing to someone else, sooner or later, given the means, the motive, the opportunity, and sufficient incentive, they'll be doing the same thing to you.

Here some more:

* As above, so below - As below, so above
* As within, so without - As without, so within
* As in heaven, so on earth - As on earth, so in heaven

As above - so below, as below - so above. As within - so without, as without - so within. As in great - so in small, as in small, so in great.

edit on 18-4-2011 by donatellanator because: (no reason given)

You're very fortunate, donatellanator, to have had an NDE. Most NDE's seem to be re-assuring, although some experience one of the hell worlds.

Your "I am surprised no one has written the phrase in it's entirety" leaves me wondering what source you are quoting. Your quote is not from the original Emerald Tablet. It's not in "The Kybalion" or Hauck's "The Emerald Tablet" or "The Secret Source."

What I have is directly from the beginning of "The Emerald Tablet" (in "The Divine Pymander"). "As above, so below" is in the very first sentence of the ET:

"True, without error, certain and most true; that which is above is as that which is below, and that which is below is as that which is above, for performing the miracles of the One Thing; and as all things are from one, by the mediation of one, so all things arose from this one thing by adaptation; the father of it is the Sun, the mother of it is the Moon; the Wind carried it in its belly; the name thereof is the Earth."

AuranVector

I know it is cliche to claim but I have a source that "went before" the hermetic origin of this phrase. I am not "allowed" to talk about these things in detail to anyone... so I offered a couple tidbits that sort of hit the same sweet spot. The explanation posted isn't what I believe it to mean... not at all. Just a hint leading in a similar direction-- a mental catalyst if you will. I really am grateful for your wisdom and that of others' on this thread. Impressed.

Originally posted by Jinglelord
reply to post by Frater210

 

Anyone who has spent time contemplating the ether is arrogant as soon as they come to a conclusion. I wasn't targeting you in particular it is just the way it is and we all need to keep that in mind when discussing our findings.

As for Sci Fi it is the moderns world best equivalent for philosophers and love the good ones.

To get an idea of how I believe the world works not to mention a fantastically deep and also fun story check out this book: Job: A Comedy of Justice

Only the hardcore Christians regret reading it... but then they hate Heinlein for many other reasons...

This is exactly why one of the ancient rules is Silence. I have a hard time keeping it to myself. Sometimes I feel I am about to burst with everything I want to express! This usually leads me to make a fool of myself.

Silence makes me feel most at ease with my beliefs. And Silence is what allows others to think for themselves.

We all have our own unique path and way to follow it.

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I cannot believe that you linked me to a Heinlein book. I am a huge fan. I read Job when I was in the service. There is a lot of reading I did back then and I would like to go over some of those books again so I will throw Job on the pile.

Won't find any complaints from me I love his writing. I often think of the list he created of things a person should be able to do...

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - RobertHeinlein, writing specialist

And for us we could add: 'decipher strange symbols in a meaningful fashion'

Anyhow, that's great. Here is a book that I am really enjoying lately. It is by Charles Stross and most of his material has to do with computers and Cthulhu but his latest, 'Saturn's Children' is dedicated to Heinlein and Asimov and is the best Robot Sci Fi I have ever read. And the main character's name is Freya (a take off on Heinlein's 'Friday') so I think you are going to really dig it.

I will get on Job very soon.
Thanks for taking the time to talk. It is what makes ATS special.

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Hey, Donatellanator. I had to laugh when I read your post. Silence has always been an issue for me too. I was wondering if you managed to make it over to that Alchemy thread that was raging a couple of weeks ago? After the whole showdown there I ended up making a small post concerning the 'Powers of the Sphinx'.

Anyhow if you are interested at all in what I think of silence check it out...www.abovetopsecret.com... I did not get a bunch of stars for that post either.

Anyhow, I would like to humbly offer this... This is the post-post modern era. Alot of information is available now that wasn't available previously. Some think that this may be because we are headed for something called the 'Singularity'; One condition of this Singularity will be that all information will be available simultaneously. Nothing will be hidden.
Personally I think that the time for silence (scorpio) is over. Now is the time maybe for us to all haul out our notes and start making comparisons. For people like me that love tradition maybe it is a little hard to think like this but I have found that the more I go with the 'Zeitgeist', which is all about Open Source, the more I learn and the more people I find that are interested in what I have to offer. I believe the days of Silence are suspended for the moment. This has happened in the past as well. There were times when Alchemists were out in the open doing public transmutations. I think that this is one of those times.

Lets all not be silent anymore. Time is very short.

"Where does it recommend using these laws against each other?"

“The half-wise, recognizing the comparative unreality of the Universe, imagine that they may defy its Laws–such are vain and presumptuous fools, and they are broken against the rocks and torn asunder by the elements by reason of their folly. The truly wise, knowing the nature of the Universe, use Law against laws; the higher against the lower; and by the Art of Alchemy transmute that which is undesirable into that which is worthy, and thus triumph. Mastery consists not in abnormal dreams, visions and fantastic imaginings or living, but in using the higher forces against the lower–escaping the pains of the lower planes by vibrating on the higher. Transmutation, not presumptuous denial, is the weapon of the Master.”–The Kybalion.

My perspective tells me that the truth is being used here and wrapped in counterfeit. The message in the Kabalion is clearly one of works by law. This is the same works by law that the Hebrews demonstrated as an object lesson to the world. The only master is Christ. We are witnesses to his Glory.

Romans 3:20

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin."

The law teaches and is not a path to salvation unless it is attained in perfection. Walk with God to ascend. Christ is the point of this process.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by SuperiorEd

Then the Egyptians knew Christ.

From the Corpus Hermeticum, Poimandres.

"The Light," he siad. "That is I, Nous, your God, who was before the watery substance which appeared out of the darkness; and the clear Word from Nous is the Son of God.

"How can that be", I said

"Know this", He said, "That which sees and hears within you is separate from each other, for their union is life."

Also, Book 13

Son Tat: "Tell me this also. Who is the author of rebirth?"
Hermes: "The Son of God, man complete, and this by God's will."

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

As verification of this, God is the Light and the Word is wave that carries the light. In physics, this is the duality of light, both particle and wave. This is your proof of what I say. The evidence is when you bring it into your heart for the first time.

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Hermetica that has been corrupted by Theosophical philosophy is open to occult practices. Hermes, in the Corpus Hermeticum, has a prophecy about the destruction of his own people because of their occult ways. God says that the idolaters and those practicing sorcery will burn in th lake of fire. Thinking that a symbol will bring some "magic" from a just and righteous God amounts to idol worship.

Hermetica is what has survived of the teachings of the pre-Christian Egyptian mystery schools. The ancient Egyptians were steeped in "magick" or the Occult.

Originally posted by SuperiorEd The Kabalyion is a book that draws incorrect implications from the principles of Hermetica. It's a good resource to understand the principles, but not to ascend to God by using his laws against each other. This is where suffering comes in. Suffering must be present in our lives. Suffering leads to reward. Reward leads to suffering. The Kabalyon suggests that a person can negate God's laws by magic arts. This is not what Hermes had in mind when he was teaching His son Tat to have reverence for God's laws.

"The Kybalion: A Study of The Hermetic Philosophy of Ancient Egypt and Greece" (written by three anonymous initiates -- their identities are still debated -- and originally published in 1912) was an attempt to make the teachings of the Emerald Tablet more accessible. The Kybalion does not suggest that a person can negate God's laws by "magic arts." Rather it teaches that there are little known or hidden (occult) principles or laws at work within Creation. The Kybalion does not teach magical ritual or the practical application of these hidden principles.

AuranVector

Originally posted by Arles Morningside

Hermetica aknowledges all sources of inspiration and guidence, not just the Bible, and above all...God and Gnosis.

I agree.

AuranVector

I just thought about this one: (Since we're all just throwing thing out now)

Amsterdam! This is they symbol on their flag (from the 1500s no connection to today's associations).

Either way I'd check it out. Something is happening there I just don't know what (outside of the obvious wonders that is)

www.amsterdamlogue.com...

Originally posted by SuperiorEd
"Where does it recommend using these laws against each other?"

“The half-wise, recognizing the comparative unreality of the Universe, imagine that they may defy its Laws–such are vain and presumptuous fools, and they are broken against the rocks and torn asunder by the elements by reason of their folly. The truly wise, knowing the nature of the Universe, use Law against laws; the higher against the lower; and by the Art of Alchemy transmute that which is undesirable into that which is worthy, and thus triumph. Mastery consists not in abnormal dreams, visions and fantastic imaginings or living, but in using the higher forces against the lower–escaping the pains of the lower planes by vibrating on the higher. Transmutation, not presumptuous denial, is the weapon of the Master.”–The Kybalion.

And this is not about "negating God's laws by magic arts." It's about being aware of God's laws that are not commonly known. Some of God's laws are more powerful than others -- they override the more commonly known laws. Those who know how to use these "higher, hidden" laws can mitigate much of the pain in life.

Originally posted by Superior Ed My perspective tells me that the truth is being used here and wrapped in counterfeit. The message in the Kabalion is clearly one of works by law. This is the same works by law that the Hebrews demonstrated as an object lesson to the world. The only master is Christ. We are witnesses to his Glory.

The only master is Christ? I do not believe this, although you are certainly free to believe it.

There have been many spiritual masters (most unknown to the general public) and there will continue to be many spiritual masters in the future.

AuranVector

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My adaptation on an old tale told in at least five separate traditions:

(Quick Modern day vernacular version)
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Four great Shamans sat meditating at night before they were to sleep for the night. In this meditation each was shown the ultimate universal meaning of all things and their place in it.

The first Shaman beheld the glory inits entirety and immediately died from the joy and fulfillment he knew.

The second beheld and his mind left him as he tried to wrap it into his knowledge forever to mumble to himself pushing shopping carts up and down the street.

The third shaman was overjoyed and took what he could into his mind to share with the world. In the sharing and in his mind the meaning was lost and his message corrupted.

The fourth shaman did not think about what he saw,he let it into his soul where it became part of him and lived the rest of his life enriching those around him by action and manner.

---

This is my take on the old story. I think it illustrates why silence is one of the ancient rules. It isn't a rule at all it is just proably a good idea

Originally posted by SuperiorEd

Then the Egyptians knew Christ.

From the Corpus Hermeticum, Poimandres.

"The Light," he siad. "That is I, Nous, your God, who was before the watery substance which appeared out of the darkness; and the clear Word from Nous is the Son of God.

"How can that be", I said

"Know this", He said, "That which sees and hears within you is separate from each other, for their union is life."

Also, Book 13

Son Tat: "Tell me this also. Who is the author of rebirth?"
Hermes: "The Son of God, man complete, and this by God's will."

If you mean "Christ" in the general sense of "spiritual savior" -- yes. If you mean "Christ" as "Jesus of Nazareth" -- no.

I know you're not going to believe this but you've got this backwards. The ancient Egyptian civilization was far more sophisticated and far older than the Hebrew. So who's copying who?

It's a rhetorical question. You see everything through a Christian filter. We agree to disagree.

AuranVector

Originally posted by Jinglelord
I just thought about this one: (Since we're all just throwing thing out now)

Amsterdam! This is they symbol on their flag (from the 1500s no connection to today's associations).

Either way I'd check it out. Something is happening there I just don't know what (outside of the obvious wonders that is)

www.amsterdamlogue.com...

It's interesting that you're seeing Cloudwatcher's symbol everywhere. Of course, she would point out that it's not drawn the same way, but it's close enough to instantly remind one of "it" -- the mystery symbol.

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I think it is interesting with a little looking around the symbol IS everywhere.

Since I already told her cryptically in a U2U I will say it plainly here.

This is one of those symbols that can easily lead you to every manner of esoteric thought. The search for the meaning would be one of the greatest horizon expanding quests. It is like the quest for the holy grail story. There is no real goal other than to grow and learn.

Ultimately the meaning of this symbol will be all things. It is like an open ended infinity sign that will grow to symbolize the meaning of the greatest journey, the journey of the soul. As above so below, this journey can't end it is infinite so no solution can ever be had, it is a cycle where through the journeys of life and death this symbol will take on different meanings depending upon where she is.

My guess would be this symbol has been with her for many incarnations and in gazing through its meaning it is ultimately a journey to herself.

Probably not the correct answer but I sure like the sound of it...

Originally posted by Jinglelord
reply to post by donatellanator

 

My adaptation on an old tale told in at least five separate traditions:

(Quick Modern day vernacular version)
---

Four great Shamans sat meditating at night before they were to sleep for the night. In this meditation each was shown the ultimate universal meaning of all things and their place in it.

The first Shaman beheld the glory inits entirety and immediately died from the joy and fulfillment he knew.

The second beheld and his mind left him as he tried to wrap it into his knowledge forever to mumble to himself pushing shopping carts up and down the street.

The third shaman was overjoyed and took what he could into his mind to share with the world. In the sharing and in his mind the meaning was lost and his message corrupted.

The fourth shaman did not think about what he saw,he let it into his soul where it became part of him and lived the rest of his life enriching those around him by action and manner.

---

This is my take on the old story. I think it illustrates why silence is one of the ancient rules. It isn't a rule at all it is just proably a good idea

Excellent story. I don't have the passage in front of me at this moment, but the "Divine Pymander" also extols the virtue of silence -- the essence of the message is about not "throwing pearls before swine, lest they turn and rend you." Which is why they had secret brotherhoods to keep the knowledge alive underground. That and the pesky Church that liked to BBQ "heretics."

But it's nice to be able to ask questions of like-minded people who are farther along on the path. There are things in the "Divine Pymander" that I do not understand -- that frankly surprise me.

Hi. Just wanted to follow up regarding my comment about psychedelic drugs and shamanism....




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Auran Vector? Did you notice Hermes' comments on the Eighth Sphere?

Not backwards. I have it in order. Enoch was Hermes 1. Joseph (PtahHotep) was Hermes 2. Moses was Hermes 3. Trismegistus, three times great. Enoch built the pyramids, the alter to the Lord in Kings 19 and the repository of knowledge for mankind before the flood. Joseph came after the flood and translated. Moses continued and then God moved Him and Israel to the holy land. Start with Noah and follow this forward to Jesus. It ends with the Son of God, man complete. As Hermes told Tat, keep it a secret. He told him that rebirth through the word (Son of God) was a mystery that was not revealed to man yet. Book 13.

Enoch and Hermes lived, walking with God 300 years. Enoch was 65 when he started walking with God and was between earth and heaven for a total of 365. He was messenger to God, as was Hermes. Hermes was 300 and walked with God. He was educated in all sciences, as was Hermes. Joseph lived 110, died in Egypt, was a Visier in the 5th Dynasty and was PtahHotep (The Maxims of PtahHotep). In the last verse of the maxims, PtahHotep died in Egypt at 110 years old. Joseph is the last verse in Genesis, revealing his age at death in Egypt. Moses was the final mover of the light to Israel. When you have the dates of the kings correct and the dates for the dynasties when all three were present, you have the story moving through Egypt. Idolatry, according to Hermes prophecy, was what did Egypt in. Like Babylon, the captivities were education for Israel. Like Israel, the captivity we face on earth is our education. As above, so below. As within, as without. The rules of the Exodus and entering the promised land are clear in Deuteronomy. Our inheritance of the universe is the goal through Christ.

Deuteronomy 4:19

And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars--all the heavenly array--do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by SuperiorEd

Then the Egyptians knew Christ.

From the Corpus Hermeticum, Poimandres.

"The Light," he siad. "That is I, Nous, your God, who was before the watery substance which appeared out of the darkness; and the clear Word from Nous is the Son of God.

"How can that be", I said

"Know this", He said, "That which sees and hears within you is separate from each other, for their union is life."

Also, Book 13

Son Tat: "Tell me this also. Who is the author of rebirth?"
Hermes: "The Son of God, man complete, and this by God's will."

If you mean "Christ" in the general sense of "spiritual savior" -- yes. If you mean "Christ" as "Jesus of Nazareth" -- no.

I know you're not going to believe this but you've got this backwards. The ancient Egyptian civilization was far more sophisticated and far older than the Hebrew. So who's copying who?

It's a rhetorical question. You see everything through a Christian filter. We agree to disagree.

AuranVector

Hide from what?

Matthew 5:13
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

I understand you point. Don't get me wrong. The Bible says the same of pearls and swine. This is understood but not the intention of spreading the light. The light shines.

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by Jinglelord
reply to post by donatellanator

 

My adaptation on an old tale told in at least five separate traditions:

(Quick Modern day vernacular version)
---

Four great Shamans sat meditating at night before they were to sleep for the night. In this meditation each was shown the ultimate universal meaning of all things and their place in it.

The first Shaman beheld the glory inits entirety and immediately died from the joy and fulfillment he knew.

The second beheld and his mind left him as he tried to wrap it into his knowledge forever to mumble to himself pushing shopping carts up and down the street.

The third shaman was overjoyed and took what he could into his mind to share with the world. In the sharing and in his mind the meaning was lost and his message corrupted.

The fourth shaman did not think about what he saw,he let it into his soul where it became part of him and lived the rest of his life enriching those around him by action and manner.

---

This is my take on the old story. I think it illustrates why silence is one of the ancient rules. It isn't a rule at all it is just proably a good idea

Excellent story. I don't have the passage in front of me at this moment, but the "Divine Pymander" also extols the virtue of silence -- the essence of the message is about not "throwing pearls before swine, lest they turn and rend you." Which is why they had secret brotherhoods to keep the knowledge alive underground. That and the pesky Church that liked to BBQ "heretics."

But it's nice to be able to ask questions of like-minded people who are farther along on the path. There are things in the "Divine Pymander" that I do not understand -- that frankly surprise me.

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Ok, i'll bite a little, to help where I can. But I still think it would be good for us to open our own thread.

There is lore which links Hermes to Enoch, but you also must remember that Hermes is also linked to Merlin, to Odin, and so on. So what is this saying? What does it mean? Hermes represents what is within you, what is in others and all about, he represents the 'Christos consciousness' the 'Buddha Nature' and so on. He is the Shepherd, the Guide, the Psychopomp, the Teacher, etc.
Edit: One could also say, that these links enphasize a common link.

The Stone is both the redeemer and the redeemed.

The Son of God can have many layers of meaning whether you interpret it from a Christian context or not, neither would be incorrect. The Corpus Hermeticum offers some interesting things on the matter.

For Example:
"Then Poemandres said to me: Did you understand what this Vision means? No, that shall I know, said I. That Light, He said, am I, your God, Mind, prior to Moist Nature which appeared from Darkness; the Light-Word that appeared from Mind is Son of God. What the?-I said. Know that what sees in you and hears is the Lord's Word; but Mind is Father-God. Not seperate are they the one from other; just in their union rather is it Life consists. Thanks be to You, I said. So, understand the Light He answered, and make friends with it." l. Poemandres, The Shepherd of Men, Corpus Hermeticum

Also: " God, then, is Sire of Cosmos; Comos, of all in Cosmos. And Cosmos is God's Son; but things in Cosmos are by Cosmos. And properly has it been called Cosmos Order; for that it orders all with their diversity of birth, with its not leaving anything without its life, with the unweariness of its activity, the speed of its necessity, the composition of its elements, and the order of its creatures." - IX. On Thought and Sense, Corpus Hermeticum

And : " God makes Aeon; Aeon, Cosmos", "Further, the Aeon's soul is God; the Cosmos' soul is Aeon", "And Aeon does preserve this Cosmos" "Behold, again, the seven subject Worlds; ordered by Aeon's order and with their varied course full-filling Aeon!", "Aeon, moreover, is God's image; Cosmos is Aeon's; the Sun, of Cosmos; and Man, the image of the Sun." - Bits from XI. Mind Unto Hermes, Corpus Hermeticum

And so on and so forth.

Simply put, Son of God is part of the Heavenly Triad of Sulphur, Salt, and Mercury (In Christian context The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). There is a general understanding of what this means and then the rest is up to personal interpretation.

Now, for examples of the concept of a Supreme Deity other than in Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition, you can see this in many ancient traditions considered 'pagan', for example, Mighty Jove of Orphic Tradition (Also connect to Hermes). If you observe the writtings of the Egyptian Tradition, you will also see a similar view. That is, a Supreme Deity with the gods merely being God's many faces as well as that within.

An Example of the Supreame Being in Egyptian writting:
" 1. He causeth growth to fullfill all desires,
2. He never wearies of it.
3. He maketh his might a buckler.
4. He is not graven in marble,
5. As an image bearing the double crown.
6. He is not beheld:
7. He hath neither ministrants nor offerings:
8. He is not adored in sanctuaries:
9. His abode is not known:
10. No shrine is found with painted figures."
-V. Hymn To The Nile

This means porn,you must watch.

As above,so below, as above in the screen you shall do below the waist

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I think some folks like the whole idea of 'cloak and dagger' for more egocentric reasons rather than actual legit reasons. It's not a matter of 'secrecy' but rather, discernment.
There needs to be a certain degree of openess when the occasion arises that warrents it and it is most Alchemical indeed for us to come together and have some good talks with one another and we all being of different digrees of understanding can gain much from one another.
Sure, some things should be more reserved for in between individuals but there is also much that can be openly shared and explored.

Two great posts in a row. Thank you.

Originally posted by Arles Morningside
reply to post by Frater210

 

I think some folks like the whole idea of 'cloak and dagger' for more egocentric reasons rather than actual legit reasons. It's not a matter of 'secrecy' but rather, discernment.
There needs to be a certain degree of openess when the occasion arises that warrents it and it is most Alchemical indeed for us to come together and have some good talks with one another and we all being of different digrees of understanding can gain much from one another.
Sure, some things should be more reserved for in between individuals but there is also much that can be openly shared and explored.