The 360° prism and its implications

Originally posted by OuttaHere
I also think it is entirely likely that ancient scientists were treated as magicians

yes i agree with you on that one
to quote A.C Clarke
“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

Thanks to the OP for showing me something I had never heard of.

I think the speculations about it's connection to the occult are important. Also, I think Danbones comment in the second post is right on and might point to how vision itself was first evolved in early life forms.

This thread points at a piece of the puzzle for sure. In Buddhism there is the "Diamond" Sutra and numerous references to gems, i.e., crystalline shapes as metaphors for "enlightened" awareness.

Very cool, you know leonardo dsvinci replicated the flower of life diagram in a new way.. Mayeb those anciet builders used some form of technology to achieve such phenomenom such as the great pyramids. Who knows but how long do you think we will be wondering untill we find the truth, I think we will never find the truth we want to hear.

A few ideas come to my mind on the matter of freemasons and the pyramids...

I think free masonry has to do with the power of having a structured, disciplined, mathmatical, almost mechanical mind. It seems as though they believe that this is the manner in which god behaves, and so to always strive towards this genius, this possibly achievable perfection, wonderous things can be achieved such as the great pyramids, or any beautiful piece of architecture, any modern technology from the automobile to the internet, it is a path of evolution of the mind, out of barbarism, and towards the knowledge of god. Their symbol is the square and ruler all instruments of precise measurement. I can also imagine how the Idea of structure and discipline of the mind can lead toward gaining a rewarding body, Life is linear, and so each day is like setting another stone for the pyramid which you shall spend your days in, building yourself I guess, And I can imagine why these modern freemason men have taken a liking to the teachings of jesus, called christianity, which preaches not to sin or stray from the lineality of life and forget the miracle of existence, so your perfectly pure body will be one with god, and perhaps knowing this your minds eye will during every waking moment be illuminated to these miracles letting every action and movement you produce light your being with total bliss... Also is it known what the crystal capstone at the top of the pyramid was used for? could it have been for some kind of harnessing of the suns rays of energy? Perhaps even trapping that energy in the pyramid chambers to charge men and women or enlighten them in some way? maybe even a way to receive information and knowledge from god?


Ok so these are just some ideas that popped up to me when going over this topic, dont hold me to them Im just throwing them out there, dispute or refute if youd like.

also im not sure how to go about first posting etiquette, I have been checking this site out for a while, and itching to jump in and be a part of the action so I hope I have not offended anyone, and I hope you will not think me a fool.

How cool is that!

Does anyone wonder why a surveryor
is considered the father of this country?

Even the illuminati can learn something at ATS.


David Grouchy

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Originally posted by ImaFungi
Ok so these are just some ideas that popped up to me when going over this topic, dont hold me to them Im just throwing them out there, dispute or refute if youd like.

also im not sure how to go about first posting etiquette, I have been checking this site out for a while, and itching to jump in and be a part of the action so I hope I have not offended anyone, and I hope you will not think me a fool.

Superb first post, ImaFungi!

Someone on ATS will always think you are a fool, no matter how lucid and concise you are. So don't let that stop you!

Welcome.

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I'm guessing that a prism cap stone
to a pyramid would create the optical illusion
that the pyramid captures the sun for the entire day.

Of course the experts disagree.

There was never any use of prisms in ancient Egypt; although glass-making was known it was confined to small beads, glass vessels and figures of animals and humans. The glass was mixed with a mineral to create faience, which being heavily pigmented can not act as a prism.

David Grouchy

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Originally posted by davidgrouchy

Of course the experts disagree.

There was never any use of prisms in ancient Egypt; although glass-making was known it was confined to small beads, glass vessels and figures of animals and humans. The glass was mixed with a mineral to create faience, which being heavily pigmented can not act as a prism.

Yeah, I saw that same result, too. Still, it's worth looking into a little more.

Gem Society - History of Lapidary

Indian literature dated about 2300 B.C. refers to manikyam. Because mani is a term to describe a sphere or bead it appears that some form of gem cutting was practiced that early.

Bapu Majajan, a contemporary Indian gemologist and Fellow of the Gemmological Association of Great Britain, feels that these and later references, (about 400 B.C.,) to gemstones in India show that gem cutting, including a rude form of faceting, had its origins in that country.

So, according to the historians, gem cutting began in India about 2300 B.C.

...the more famous transparent gems, ruby, sapphire, spinel, emerald and garnet, appeared in many different forms; all the work of advanced gemcutters.

These gems all appear in early jewelry of India, Burma, Sri Lanka, (Ceylon), Persia, (Iran.) They were mostly cut, (or rather polished,) as the natural "Point" shown here. Rubies, because they were treasured above all other gems, have been found mounted in their natural shape while others have been faceted and cut cabochon.

Favorite transparent stones for faceting were ruby, sapphire, spinel, emerald, and garnet. Technology did not yet exist to facet diamonds.


Next, we read that glass was first invented in Sumeria, whereas the invention of glass is sometimes mistakenly attributed to the Egyptians:

Glass, Too, Has Long Lapidary History


As a matter of fact, in 5,000 B. C. the Zadim, (stone workers,) of Sumeria were even making and working with an early form of glass. Not so surprising is the fact that the initial use of glass was to serve as an imitation gemstone.

Later, the Egyptians were to be given false credit for the development of glass...

And then we see that many advances in modern faceting came from Iran and Egypt during the Islamic Period:

It is not well known, but many of the advances in faceting can be attributed to the Islamic Period. In what is now eastern Iran, gemcutters had developed great skills in polyhedral faceting, (11th c. Nishapur,) as well as exporting cutting skills which produced such great traditions as the rock formed crystals of Fatima, Egypt (9-12 c.,) jades and other hard stones of Mughal, India.

There existed a shortage of cutting equipment save a few hand tools. Lapidaries much preferred... ruby, sapphire, quartz, and emerald.

So, if nothing else, it has been an interesting history lesson.

Originally posted by OuttaHere
The relationship of a Theory of Everything to the Lie group was not my theory, it is a theory by Garrett Lisi and I am sure there are published papers you could read if the video is too much in layman's terms for you. It deals with fundamental particles, their spins and other characteristics, and graphing them in eight dimensional geometry. Garrett Lisi reveals that according to his discovery, there are 20 undiscovered fundamental particles corresponding to certain pre-defined characteristics. It also gives scientists at the LHC and other colliders some ideas of what they should be looking for, and a means to potentially prove or disprove Lisi's theory. Did you watch the video? I thought it looked promising, and so, apparently, does the rest of the science world.

I'm a physicist, and I wasn't that amazed by that video, I wouldn't call some things "discoveries" when they're actually conjectures and/or mathematical concoctions, if we talk about science, I want experimental results, hard data, and all these particles offer very little of that.

Originally posted by OuttaHere
Besides, it looked cool.

Oh, on this I absolutely agree