Is fear the cause of all of our problems?

As I slept, I dreamed that all men
and woman long to live in peace; but when I woke I
saw that the world is ruled by fear. Fear makes men
cruel. Cruelty breeds hatred. Anger feeds on anger, and
misery gives birth to misery down the generations.

I saw how men and woman turn to their gods
for protection. I saw their hunger to believe their gods
are strong, and their dread of the gods of others. I saw
how gods drive men into wars, and the wars of the
believers are the most merciless conflicts of all.

Then I ask myself: Must it always be so? - William Nicholson

(I refuse to let this quote that I typed go out to waste. lol)

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it's foolish to think there is but one source of problems or unhappiness. your pipes may go leaky the day your husband walks out on you, that's two separate things.

i feel the majority of problems in our lives is the direct result of the sick, twisted, unnatural modern day society / civilization we are born into.

most are born to people who have been under the controls and manipulations that have been perfected over many years. generation after generation, the blind leading the blind. under the thumb or organized religion, government and TPTB who pull the strings.

i think if Americans were not misled down the road they are on, if we were left to live natural lives working together with nature instead of against it, we would have fewer problems. no bills, no taxes, no time clock, no false pressures and fake deadlines. people would not be retarded, instead they would be free to seek greater understanding of their self, their spirituality and the universe around them, to think and ponder the great mysteries. those that liked gardening would be free to tend the vegetables, the paint to paint, on and on. each person being themself and contributing.

i feel our greatest problems stem from accepting this unnatural world TPTB force upon us. and as long as we continue to comply, America will be a land where most adult don't sleep well at night, are not happy, frequently get the feeling that something just ain't right, and toil their lives away for a bite to eat and a place to sleep.

fear is not the cause of problems. the presence of fear is merely a lack of understanding that while we are not in control of all that happens, we are in control to how we choose to react to that which happens. if you hold yourself in fear it is of your own making. only you has the key to unlock the chains that bind you.

Very nice quote. Do you know if it is out of Shadowlands perhaps?

(Assuming it's a quote from the writer / playwright.)

Fear comes from the Ego as does every other negative force of mind, thinking we a greater than others is the true problem

Originally posted by JR MacBeth
Very nice quote. Do you know if it is out of Shadowlands perhaps?

(Assuming it's a quote from the writer / playwright.)

It actually came out of a book that I was reading. It wasn't about philosophy for the first two books and then it decided that it wanted to be philosophical.

It has some nice quotes mostly about anti-war.

Originally posted by LargeFries
reply to post by drew1749

 

it's foolish to think there is but one source of problems or unhappiness. your pipes may go leaky the day your husband walks out on you, that's two separate things.

i feel the majority of problems in our lives is the direct result of the sick, twisted, unnatural modern day society / civilization we are born into.

most are born to people who have been under the controls and manipulations that have been perfected over many years. generation after generation, the blind leading the blind. under the thumb or organized religion, government and TPTB who pull the strings.

So would you say that being controlled leads to fear?

Originally posted by Jamjar
Fear comes from the Ego as does every other negative force of mind, thinking we a greater than others is the true problem

How does fear come from the ego? It's a natural basic response to not understanding ect

Originally posted by drew1749

So would you say that being controlled leads to fear?

I would say [for the majority] it is the other way around... Fear leads to being Controlled.

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So I guess that leads back into my OP. If fear led to us being controlled then isn't fear to blame for our problems?

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Just a month or even a couple of weeks ago I would be surprised to see your question. I never thought about it before. Now I only have 1 answer to your question: YES, fear is the cause of our problems. If not all of them, at least most of them.
Good thread! Thanks

This is quote is quite true, for fear is the unknown and untested in our minds. Without fear we could do the impossible, for fear puts us at a stop. People are taught fear in their early stages of life. We are not born with fear, so that fear is a state of thought that was created by our minds.

Originally posted by SparkOfSparks6
This is quote is quite true, for fear is the unknown and untested in our minds. Without fear we could do the impossible, for fear puts us at a stop. People are taught fear in their early stages of life. We are not born with fear, so that fear is a state of thought that was created by our minds.

Hmmmm but is it? I thought fear was a natural emotion?

Originally posted by quitesane
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Just a month or even a couple of weeks ago I would be surprised to see your question. I never thought about it before. Now I only have 1 answer to your question: YES, fear is the cause of our problems. If not all of them, at least most of them.
Good thread! Thanks

Thank you. Last night I spent about ten minutes typing out that quote for another thread hoping that someone would reply...they didnt.

Hate and fear comes from misunderstanding. All of our problems stem from misunderstanding.

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Yes an emotion created by our ego, a survival instinct so to say. As in all living organisms have fear themselves. Without ego there would be no fear.

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I think fear is something that needs to be embraced. Once you understand fear and what makes you fearfull. You gain the understanding which can ultimately help you break free from those fears. It is fear that allows the few to control the masses. So yes i would say that fear has a lot to do with the problems of the modern world, but only as far as people being affraid to stand up and do something about it. Leaders of this world hold the same fears we do. Thats why they have armies and police forces to do their bidding for them, but there only as powerful as we allow them to be.

Learn how they manipulate your fears and you can break free from there grip.

Fear is not bred from our ego. It is our ego that will convince you that you are not afraid. Your ego is what stops you from seeing things as they really are.

Fear of death and fear of "god" comprise one of the many bases upon which the concept of religion is constructed. Fear of death and or incarceration, sanction, expulsion result from institutions we've allowed to run our lives. The adrenaline rush of being startled is a natural phenomenon, not necessarily the emotion of fear. The queasy stomach feeling many people get when elevated (say on top of a building) is a natural phenomenon, not necessarily the emotion of fear. Reaction to circumstances is natural. Fear is a concept of the mind. Have no fear - it is a completely useless and destructive emotion (anger is pretty close to that as well, but ...).

ganjoa

Originally posted by ganjoa
Fear of death and fear of "god" comprise one of the many bases upon which the concept of religion is constructed. Fear of death and or incarceration, sanction, expulsion result from institutions we've allowed to run our lives. The adrenaline rush of being startled is a natural phenomenon, not necessarily the emotion of fear. The queasy stomach feeling many people get when elevated (say on top of a building) is a natural phenomenon, not necessarily the emotion of fear. Reaction to circumstances is natural. Fear is a concept of the mind. Have no fear - it is a completely useless and destructive emotion (anger is pretty close to that as well, but ...).

ganjoa

I agree that concepts like religion can use fear to control us. Fear is only useless and destructive if you allow it to be. It is a natural reaction that warns us when something is'nt right or that we need to be aware, Yes. It is not a concept of the mind. Saying that it is a concept of the mind is a concept of the mind. Nothing natural is a concept of the mind. Those who use fear as an instrument of control know that you cant defeat your fear unless you first understand it. Thats why they make it so hard to understand by confusing us with these "concepts of the mind" So you go running off in the wrong direction when the answer is right in front of you all along.

Originally posted by drew1749
I saw how men and woman turn to their gods
for protection. I saw their hunger to believe their gods
are strong, and their dread of the gods of others. I saw
how gods drive men into wars, and the wars of the
believers are the most merciless conflicts of all.

Actually the most merciless conflicts in history had nothing to do with religion.

Originally posted by NewlyAwakened

Originally posted by drew1749
I saw how men and woman turn to their gods
for protection. I saw their hunger to believe their gods
are strong, and their dread of the gods of others. I saw
how gods drive men into wars, and the wars of the
believers are the most merciless conflicts of all.

Actually the most merciless conflicts in history had nothing to do with religion.

I consider WW2 and the crusades to be bad.

WW2 - Hitler hated jews in the name of Catholicism.

Crusades - ...We all know.

Also

Iraq/Afganistan