Hamas vows to rain rockets on Israel

reply to post by Xcathdra

I constantly see the argument of who owned what land when, and its usually tagged to religion. The Jewish religion spans about 2-3k years, give or take, while Islam started around 600AD. I know that Islam does not view Muhammad as the creator of islam, it still begs the question of when Islam came around.

If it came after Juedaism, then where is the valid claim?

I have to ask, what does the founding date of a religion have to do with ancestral homeland ??
The area was occupied well before either religion was created..

Originally posted by backinblack
I have to ask, what does the founding date of a religion have to do with ancestral homeland ??
The area was occupied well before either religion was created..

Again, thats my point. The area was settled long before either religion, yet religion is used to justify claims to the area.

Not every arab is muslim, and not every israeli is jewish.

Originally posted by forklift
reply to post by Xcathdra

 

You make it sound like Hamas has always been in power making it 'tough' for palestinians to move on.

Can you explain why there wasn't any peace or a permanent ceasefire when Hamas had no power?

There always seems to be something new to shift the blame towards palestinians. First it was Osama supporting them, than Saddam now Iran and next i guess it will be Gadaffi?

Let's leave everything aside and get to the important issues.

Why is US tax payer funding and arming this Zion-terrorist nation which openly boasts about it's illegaly acquired biological/nuclear weapons and constantly illegaly expands it's borders?

Now if you're going to reply by telling me that it's due to Hamas firing pringle tubes packed with baking powder than don't even bother.

yassir armarat was the reason.

munich, entebbe, among others, good ol jimmy carter tried at camp david.

but it's better to be a victim, i guess.

catch the attention of the US? suddenly become a playa.

the PLO could have ended this decades ago.

Originally posted by meathed

Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by australian2011
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask

 

Seriously all the attacks are just b/s on both sides. God's eye is on Israel and nothing will take her from him. It will take all the nations banding together and going against Israel to realise they will never win against God.

edit on 10-4-2011 by australian2011 because: (no reason given)

I guess that's why they are 'G-ds Chosen People'?

And you forgot to tell them, THERE IS NO GOD.

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edit on 10-4-2011 by meathed because: (no reason given)

Well we will see Meathed, we will see.

In the meantime enjoy as Israel stays as it is as a nation till the end.

If Hamas wants to gain at least one hit, they must let rockets rain on israel, with them crappy rockets they have. How many isrealis have they killed with their flying stove pipes the last ten years? Three?

Originally posted by australian2011

Originally posted by meathed

Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by australian2011
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask

 

Seriously all the attacks are just b/s on both sides. God's eye is on Israel and nothing will take her from him. It will take all the nations banding together and going against Israel to realise they will never win against God.

edit on 10-4-2011 by australian2011 because: (no reason given)

I guess that's why they are 'G-ds Chosen People'?

And you forgot to tell them, THERE IS NO GOD.

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edit on 10-4-2011 by meathed because: (no reason given)

Well we will see Meathed, we will see.

In the meantime enjoy as Israel stays as it is as a nation till the end.

Your pathetic and so is israel,
The second the world stops bending over for israel then israel will be a nation no more.
And im ashamed that you call yourself an aussie.

Ancient Israel used to span from Egypt to Iraq of today, that was God's land for the Jews under a covenant, it has been lost due to lack of faith and protection by God because of the Jews lack of faith and turning to other gods.
The problem is man is giving this spiritual land to people of other religions, we allow God's name to be trampled on while his people are made to convert or driven out. Biblically speaking the story is not over yet, it all ends at Israel and it all reboots at Israel, even Islamic prophecy sets itself up against them and Mecca does not even make the headlines in either books for the end times.

Why should history be given over and distorted and lost when it can be found again, how many books and historical discoveries have been made in Israel how many museum pieces are there based in that area alone?
Think of who and why man has troubled the Jews so many times, how man has tried to destroy Israel and any evidence of it, yet no one seems to add up why.
Since it plays a big part in the end times according to the Bible even outside forces without its knowledge are setting up the stage for it to go as foretold, God according to the Bible will not return until the Jews recognise Christ and Israel has been set up again for their deliverance, without that God will not return and why should other religions stop that, why should other religions build upon the foundations of God, so many temples and Biblical places have been found none related to Islam all pointing to the Bible, the truth is evident and people should preserve it it is the right of humanity itself.

Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
If Hamas wants to gain at least one hit, they must let rockets rain on israel, with them crappy rockets they have. How many isrealis have they killed with their flying stove pipes the last ten years? Three?

Which is 3 too many....

Where is the line drawn?

3? 300? 3000? 30k?

Israel threatens this and Hamas vows the same

Never ends, does it ?

Best to ignore it. Because they're playing games. A flanking game. Pretending to be enemies

When in truth, YOU are their mutual enemy

and if you don't believe that or want to believe it

just wait

It will become obvious

Originally posted by The time lord
Ancient Israel used to span from Egypt to Iraq of today, that was God's land for the Jews under a covenant, it has been lost due to lack of faith and protection by God because of the Jews lack of faith and turning to other gods.
The problem is man is giving this spiritual land to people of other religions, we allow God's name to be trampled on while his people are made to convert or driven out. Biblically speaking the story is not over yet, it all ends at Israel and it all reboots at Israel, even Islamic prophecy sets itself up against them and Mecca does not even make the headlines in either books for the end times.

Why should history be given over and distorted and lost when it can be found again, how many books and historical discoveries have been made in Israel how many museum pieces are there based in that area alone?
Think of who and why man has troubled the Jews so many times, how man has tried to destroy Israel and any evidence of it, yet no one seems to add up why.
Since it plays a big part in the end times according to the Bible even outside forces without its knowledge are setting up the stage for it to go as foretold, God according to the Bible will not return until the Jews recognise Christ and Israel has been set up again for their deliverance, without that God will not return and why should other religions stop that, why should other religions build upon the foundations of God, so many temples and Biblical places have been found none related to Islam all pointing to the Bible, the truth is evident and people should preserve it it is the right of humanity itself.

edit on 11-4-2011 by The time lord because: spelling

Also by chance I found this fitting verse in Isaiah 61 which makes emotional sense in how God thinks about Israel and finding it again to bring glory to him, which current situations and history all but dishonered his name.

Isaiah 61
The Year of the LORD’s Favor

4 They will rebuild the ancient ruins
and restore the places long devastated;
they will renew the ruined cities
that have been devastated for generations.
5 Strangers will shepherd your flocks;
foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.
6 And you will be called priests of the LORD,
you will be named ministers of our God.
You will feed on the wealth of nations,
and in their riches you will boast.
Text

So restablishing Israel is not something God detests if we find ancient ruins and they have found many places and artifacts so far it is good in te eyes of the Lord, and by doing so we add the evidence up we come closer to God's fullfilments. But it is a pity many groups are trying to stop this even in todays modern age.