OMG!!! Evidence that JESUS(if existed) was ALIEN!!!!!

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IF, Jesus existed, then I would have to say that my opinion is that the "immaculate conception" was nothing more than artificial insemination by a species much further advanced than our own at the time.

I read the article from the independant link, and no where in the article does it state anything regarding aliens. Obviously I am missing something. And since half the posts have been removed, I am wondering whats really going on.

Are we looking at this picture? Because, I don't see an alien.



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The motive to post this was just to make believers and non believers debate.
If my supposed statement about the similarities between jesus Christ( as the catolic chrurch believes is real and states that this Mandilion is proof of that and reflected his image) and the link between an gray alien face that fits more likely than any other human face uo to date( not really possible just through 2000 years of evolution to have changed that way, up to how is really know nowadays) seems plausible that evidence of god/Chrisst/Budha/Krishna etc, is evidence of extra terrestrial life gods, that may have performed all those miracles that were attributed to this kind of Mesias.

So if that face is proof of Christ existance, though is proof of Alien life suppossing that the similarities between human face and supossed alien faces are not enough strong as the ones between Christ face and Aliens ones.

You also dont have to be mad about this is just a discussion about an statemente made by the catholic crhsitian church of the existance of Crhist and the statement based on the one before about comparissions of human anatomy and alien supossed anatomy(the face in this case)

Everyone's posts are bit odd for this topic. In one sense he may very well have been ET, hybrid, as it seems to fit the story, however not a grey hybrid, if true. Greys are ai bots, or suits. Not biological entities.

The picture is interesting, but still human looking. And of course, he is representing the path of service to others and unconditional love, that brings us home, or to progress, and pass our tests, so he would be representing humanity, and adam in a sense.

Considering that the image shown is not even the true relic, I think this entire thread should be removed as the evidence given is not authentic...

Originally posted by N1thNa1ath
The motive to post this was just to make believers and non believers debate.
If my supposed statement about the similarities between jesus Christ( as the catolic chrurch believes is real and states that this Mandilion is proof of that and reflected his image) and the link between an gray alien face that fits more likely than any other human face uo to date( not really possible just through 2000 years of evolution to have changed that way, up to how is really know nowadays) seems plausible that evidence of god/Chrisst/Budha/Krishna etc, is evidence of extra terrestrial life gods, that may have performed all those miracles that were attributed to this kind of Mesias.

So if that face is proof of Christ existance, though is proof of Alien life suppossing that the similarities between human face and supossed alien faces are not enough strong as the ones between Christ face and Aliens ones.

You also dont have to be mad about this is just a discussion about an statemente made by the catholic crhsitian church of the existance of Crhist and the statement based on the one before about comparissions of human anatomy and alien supossed anatomy(the face in this case)

I thought your OP was tongue-in-cheek humor my friend. I did not take it seriously because I did not think you meant it seriously. I apologise.

Here is the problem.

There is no publicly available proof aliens exist. There is no publicly available proof Christ existed. Yet you propose that a drawing must be proof the two are the same. Can you see a problem here?

Now don't get me wrong, I believe in the teachings of Christ whether he existed or not, and I believe it is possible that there is Alien life out there, but it is quite a reach to even postulate that a drawing is PROOF the two are the same.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by Tygart
Interesting post,
I find Gen 6 interesting,

Gen 6:1-4 6:1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. NKJV

Almost sounds alien to me.

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From what I see of those beings in the racial unconscious, the 'gods of old' were the E-l*th.. as we mispronounce it.. the Elves. They are a mighty powerful bunch of aliens and a group of them got stuck here after the demise of Atlantis, and to keep themselves entertained until the rescue ships from the elven homeworld arrived, they played 'god' to us weak and generally powerless humans.

And yes, they could cross-breed with humans and their off spring were more able to use raw energy, as the elves do, but we humans can't. So the kids were much more powerful than the average human but a lot less powerful than their elven parent.

And yah, they are aliens, although they'd been here on this planet long before humanity became sentient; in fact they terra-formed this world to be one of their 'vacation' worlds which required a well aimed asteroid to kill off the then current large, and sometimes man-eating reptilian life forms aka dinosaurs and make the biosphere more mammal friendly.

Originally posted by Unity_99
Everyone's posts are bit odd for this topic. In one sense he may very well have been ET, hybrid, as it seems to fit the story, however not a grey hybrid, if true. Greys are ai bots, or suits. Not biological entities.

The picture is interesting, but still human looking. And of course, he is representing the path of service to others and unconditional love, that brings us home, or to progress, and pass our tests, so he would be representing humanity, and adam in a sense.

I do agree that the picture does seem fairly in line with the artistic skills/styles of those times, not necessarily to depict him as an alien though. I do think HE could have been half Jue-sah (we mispronounce that name too.. we called them Jews)... the alien race that was brought here by the greys to control humanity after they couldn't (near the beginning of our time of sentience) although the Jue-sah aren't really that powerful compared to most other aliens in their ability to work with raw energy. Still, compared to the average human, they are definitely more powerful.

And the greys aren't bots, but they aren't mammals either. From what I can see of them in the racial unconscious, they are actually plant based, and have a hive mind, so it may seem like they are bots because they all will move together and such. But they are still sentient living beings albeit rather limited in their individual ability to think for themselves.

What i meant with this post is not based in my beliefs, but in those from the ones that state that this is the face of jesus because it was in print there when he used it for cleaning his face.

that is no drawing or picture but the remains of his own sweat in the fabric

is it clear? - no picture no painting no nothing but the remains of his sweaty face, that is what the mandilyon is about and why the Christians kepp it so jealously

so it´s not a representation but an inprint of his own face.

At least this is what the Christian church states about the Mandilyon

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Grey ets are universal maintenance workers, highly intelligent interactive AI, and at the same time can be soul bots, and utilized by all the shades of polarities with tech, ie. they can also be worn as suits and hybrids are used exactly the same way, and some of them also are ai and function as independents or suits. There is bot in them, droid as well. But suit composition does not equate lack of ai. All of nature and creation within this holographic technology can do the same, in the hands of EU, extra universals, and races with millions of years of technology over ours understand the workings, to a large extent and can duplicate on lesser levels than EU and hijack our input signals. Some plant material makes sense in a way, though don't know this for sure but have read this, due to variant colors, ie. they're not all grey.

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are you aware of the countless relics that have been forged in europe.

i mean, theres enough pieces of the cross to rebuild noah's ark.

religious relics are like circus freaks, they are mostly faked and meant to draw in the gullible.




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Artists' conceptions are always just that...

Sorta looks like Johnny Depp Jesus to me though.

Originally posted by Unity_99
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Grey ets are universal maintenance workers, highly intelligent interactive AI, and at the same time can be soul bots, and utilized by all the shades of polarities with tech, ie. they can also be worn as suits and hybrids are used exactly the same way, and some of them also are ai and function as independents or suits. There is bot in them, droid as well. But suit composition does not equate lack of ai. All of nature and creation within this holographic technology can do the same, in the hands of EU, extra universals, and races with millions of years of technology over ours understand the workings, to a large extent and can duplicate on lesser levels than EU and hijack our input signals. Some plant material makes sense in a way, though don't know this for sure but have read this, due to variant colors, ie. they're not all grey.

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I am pretty sure that picture was just some painter's idea of what Jesus may have looked like.. they weren't big on proportions and acuracy in those days.. it was considered blasmphamy to study the 'god' created human body so they couldn't really have someone sit down and let them draw them. It was more from memory, as I recall.

And of what I see of the greys in the racial unconscious is that they are a species that first came here to help the Elves populate this world with the many beautiful birds, animals, fish, insects and so on. The elves adored beautiful things and so the terra-forming group of elves wanted to make this world as beautiful as possible. The greys are the number one genetic manipulators around, and so they were hired to do just that.

But the greys were suffering a general malaise in the worker population and the little spirits weren't reincarnating.. instead staying stuck to the side of their 'bliss' state when they died, and some were actually simply laying down and remaining there until they died, and then of course, refusing to reincarnate. The leadership could see that this trend could effectively render their species extinct, so that is why they started using and adapting the semi-sentient humans to create bodies (after amping up the soul capturing quality) to suck their reluctant spirits off the side of the 'bliss' state and back into a body they could put back to work until they could figure out a way to get them back into grey bodies.

In general, the greys don't allow themselves to be used as workers for any other group though (I see a time when they were captured and used as slaves and they managed to get themselves free and so don't even want that to happen again), and really, the worker spirits are almost at the level of dumb terminals but they still are individual spirits underneath that dependency on the leadership to tell them what to do. They are also tremendously xenophopic and wouldn't want to work away from their people to begin with, and that's why it is highly unlikely you will ever see a real grey.

I think you may be confusing the actual greys with the bots that the blues (the pleadians I think) have gotten created. They do use some biotechnology, but when push comes to shove, humans are the ones creating these bots for the blues. The actual alien blues don't really want to risk being out and about around humans because they know if they get killed or die in an accident, they'll end up in a human body without any memory of who they were, and most likely will never be able to get back into a blue alien body again. They are quite paranoid about that and rightly so. So they send out the bots instead.

And from what I can tell, we humans are actually far more technologically advanced than any other alien group despite them having 'millions of years' head start on us. 95% of them just use raw energy to do stuff like transport themselves, or move things around or battle among themselves with energy beams they channel thru their bodies (or what we humans always think of as 'magic'), but since we humans are blocked to using ours, we've compensated by making hard technology to do those things instead. The blues and greys do have space craft, but they aren't nearly as advanced as they would have you believe. They still do a lot of the functions with raw energy directed by their minds. And of course, now have incorporated the technology we humans have been working on, especially the computers.

Now it sounds like it's probably the blues feeding you information; that whole aliens are so superior thing.. are they offering you 'safety' in the 'coming destruction of earth' if you'll just serve them? That for sure is blue.. they are trying to trick people into running to them so they can say that they aren't taking slaves... They are trying to steal the best and brightest humans they can find, but with the Elves keeping an eye on us to prevent any outright thievery, they have to manipulate us into wanting to be 'saved' so they can take us without looking like the thieves they are.

i hope that nothing is hiting me but who knows may be that i am unaware of things that may be happening to me, though i really dont like grays at all, even though i´ve seen many of them and had room visitors, i´m pretty sure that j esus was not human and a piece of alien intervention, a good one, so any species could find their way to a better lncarnate life.

Why do you assume that i may be supporting something that i dont?
that´s always the MSM way to disrupt the harmony isn´t it?

Originally posted by N1thNa1ath
i hope that nothing is hiting me but who knows may be that i am unaware of things that may be happening to me, though i really dont like grays at all, even though i´ve seen many of them and had room visitors, i´m pretty sure that j esus was not human and a piece of alien intervention, a good one, so any species could find their way to a better lncarnate life.

Why do you assume that i may be supporting something that i dont?
that´s always the MSM way to disrupt the harmony isn´t it?

Were you responding to my posts or ??? It isn't at all clear, sorry! And what does MSM stand for?

I am pretty sure, though, unless you were 'abducted' and taken onto a grey ship, you will not have seen a grey. The true greys are quite shy and only a few will venture away from their ship/homes.

Like noted before, you may very well be seeing the 'bots' that the blues have out running around for them. They, like the greys, are short and hairless with no genitals and no real nose and of a greyish waxy color. But they are lifeless, robotic in behavior. And can be very intrusive.

I suspect the blues designed their bots to look like greys so people would blame the greys for what their bots were doing---in part to keep the angels aka elves from coming after them for breaking the laws of contact the elves laid down. Those night visits, for example, are so not allowed by the elves.