Cure for cancer has been found

Originally posted by Azp420
So for criticizing the policies of ATS I get personal attacks from a mod? Must have touched a nerve there in stating the obvious. I hope that high level of sensitivity won't result in this post being removed (which breaches no T&Cs).

I can assure you I do not partake in the recreational activities you all but accuse me of.

Personal attacks? Hardly. Merely pointing out the not-so-subtle fact that 420 alludes to a stoner's favorite unofficial day of toking. Take it as you will.

And, in case you haven't notice, your posts are still here.

After reading much scientific literature I view it as a fantastic medicine. This includes the cure for cancer. Nearly one in two people will get cancer in their lifetime. If I didn't know there was a cure I would dam well hope there were people who cared more about helping others than about money and keeping corporations happy.

Most hope for a cure for this painful and often times fatal disease.

I have never detailed any personal experiences on ATS. Frequenters of other cannabis forums are already well informed of its medicinal properties. Average Joe deserves to be made aware of the information so he can make up his own mind, instead of being forced to help big pharma profit from cancer.

As long as you don't go down the road of personal usage, advocate legalization and remain on topic, it's all good.

It's comforting to know that chemically induced insights on ATS are bit on an ongoing joke and somewhat cool - as long as that chemical is alcohol (at least from what I have seen since joining). God forbid someone was to think outside the box and tear down the paradigms and preconceptions their thoughts are usually pigeon-holed into.

Most alcohol is not an deemed an illegal substance. It's under aged drinking, public intoxication and drunk driving that runs against the law. Huge difference.

And as long as it doesn't meander down the road of legalisation. The masses mustn't know about one of the biggest ongoing conspiracies of all time. Not what I would expect from a conspiracy theory site.

If people want to discuss legalization, there are other sites dedicated to that issue. These are part of the rules you agreed to abide by when you registered with this privately-owned site.

The most common argument against cannabis as a cure for cancer is, "if it really cured cancer doctors and/or the authorities would tell everyone."

A major aspect of the topic "cannabis cures cancer" is the suppression of this information to the masses. I would hope we would be allowed to discuss how big pharma contributes to this. This is after all a conspiracy theory website.

Absolutely. It has never been indicated that you cannot.

reply to post by maria_stardust

Personal attacks? Hardly. Merely pointing out the not-so-subtle fact that 420 alludes to a stoner's favorite unofficial day of toking.

As well as the stereotyping and subtle mocking.

Most hope for a cure for this painful and often times fatal disease.

Big pharma don't. There are billions at stake. They want to treat cancer, not cure it. That is why the only way for this cure to take off is to get people behind it.

Most alcohol is not an deemed an illegal substance. It's under aged drinking, public intoxication and drunk driving that runs against the law. Huge difference.

What's the huge difference, I'm not seeing it? Medicinal cannabis is legal for many people too. It's ridiculous that we can't advocate it being legal medicine for more people.

If the slave laws were still in effect ATS would ban the discussion of these unjust laws also?

Why is it that all sorts of discussions of politics and other laws are allowed?

ATS claims to be a conspiracy site based on denying ignorance. Why is it that an important thread detailing the cure for cancer is not allowed to make it to the front page for all to see?

Like I said before, it's sad that the corporations even control the content on a conspiracy theory website.

I have always known that cannabis was around for a reason.

So, if cannabis can beat cancer, why have the powers stopped it?

Oh, (thinks for a second) - maybe because totally poisinous antic-cancer drugs make heaps of money.

I am not a user of cannabis, but I state to all who ban it - you are wrong.

Cannabis does not cure cancer. It's an absurd excuse to justify use and further law reform efforts.

The problem does however lie with the research. You have biases on both sides of the studies. On one hand, you have the DEA trying to fear monger and control the use of the substance. On the other, you have organizations like NORML attempting to manipulate the data along with exploiting cancer patients to further law reform.

It's one big clusterf***, and we the people have no accurate answer as to the risks and advantages of Marijuana.

-B

reply to post by baked

Cannabis does not cure cancer. It's an absurd excuse to justify use and further law reform efforts.

Educate yourself.

Cannabis & Cancer - The Science

You have biases on both sides of the studies.

Even the research attempting to justify the war on drugs showed cannabis was not dangerous enough to justify its illegality.

we the people have no accurate answer as to the risks and advantages of Marijuana.

We have pretty accurate data on the risks and advantages. As for the risks, at least we can be certain that cannabis, unlike booze, does not kill brain cells or any of its users. We can also be certain that it's impossible to overdose on it.

Anyone ever see Run From The Cure ?
Pretty great stuff.

www.youtube.com...


He's a healer, not a dealer!

How can anyone definitely claim cannabis as a cancer cure when the DEA and FDA make it impossible for scientists to do research? It is an illegal substance, therefor you HAVE TO go through them to get a license, 99% are denied.

I read an article where one DEA approved scientist used marijuana crushing the whole plant, seeds, stems and all (probably roots too!). Why would you use low grade chemically fertilized product to make medicine? Are they trying to sabotage any sort of legitimacy for this miracle plant?

It's disgusting. I watched my father waste away from the ravages of cancer and ultimately die from it in a confused and utterly heart-wrenching state. All of this could have been prevented with the help of one plant.

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I'm quite educated on the subject. In fact, I'm all for law reform. What I'm not for, is people exploiting serious issues to further that agenda.

You really don't think excuses such as this are just attempts to hide behind the shield of something as sensitive as cancer?

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If I get cancer I'll bet my life that cannabis will cure it. I've done my homework. There's no way I'll be going through chemo or radiation "therapy".

The science is not being made up. Perhaps you should try checking out the link I posted.

Cannabis doesn't need the fact that it selectively destroys cancer cells on its side. There are enough positive effects resulting from its use already to justify its legality. There are also almost zero negative effects from its use to justify its illegality (especially compared with the hugely negative effects of many legal drugs). Adding the curing cancer to the heap does nothing to change the mind of insane and in-the-pocket-of-big-business politicians.

Locally, WA State there's a news article. done because of the crackdown in the state of Medical Dispensaries., a man discussed about how his son, since being on it medically, is basically cured of cancer and of course, has an appetite now. A tearjerking story, but amazing in the end.

Info on the crackdown:
Komo News

To call what the Hyde family has been through a "parent's worst nightmare" sounds like a horrible cliche. But, it's hard to imagine what else you could call it. Their two-year-old son Cash was diagnosed last year with a stage 4 brain tumor; he nearly died more times than they can count.

He was miserable from the chemotherapy coursing through his body until his dad made a controversial decision to give cannabis to his young son.

A few weeks ago, Cashy was back in Salt Lake City for scans and found out he's cancer-free. He's back home in Missoula, back with his family and back to teasing his big brother Colty. In a couple of months, he'll spend his third birthday like every kid should - with the fight of his life behind him.

Dad Gives Toddler Battling Brain Cancer Medical Marijuana
KXLY

It has been about two years now since my favorite aunt, my mother's youngest sister, succumbed to cancer at age 68. She was offered Marinol, the mj pharma product substitute, and the cost of that was to be about $900us for a 30-day supply. To me that is robbery.

She had no experience with mj and was willing to give Marinol a try so just bought a sample. Those measured doses were not suitable, having no previous experience, and seemed strong and overwhelming. With the cost considered also she chose not to continue use of it.

I have to wonder if the pharma version has been stripped of any "curative" properties - I realize I use the term "cure" loosely here but not sure how to phrase it to suit everyone who has a dog in this fight.

It is a slippery slope to offer any personal insight but if I could it would speak from over 43 years experience around this "magic herb" observing the folks involved with it. I enjoy good health. I could not guarantee that part of the reason I do so is from my own lifelong regimen of doing what feels right and good and correct to me. There is a sort of madness surrounding this product that makes no sense unless one would consider the economic impact it would have to treat this substance in a sane and rational manner.

What I have observed and what claims are made from both camps on this issue it deserves a "hands-off" approach from governmental authorities to permit its benefits, and possible downsides, to become better known. The fact that other industries may suffer economically from such openness compounds the conspiracy aspect that keeps it under a tight thumb. A worldwide ban as it now has is plain insanity to give its "anti's" the edge they now enjoy. Small regions of limited tolerance for this natural plant does little to diminish the stranglehold.

As a retired pensioner and just short of age to draw Social Security I have paid through my working life, I see more and more encouragement from "The Powers" that would wish for and steer toward my early demise. There is an economic conspiracy here to keep such policies in place, and there is evidence that this substance could have curative proerties and hopes.

all these people claimin that weed makes you stupid. brilliantr assumption. Sure, if you use too much in one sitting you start to lose short term memory and feel a bit sick. the same as alcohol i'f we're pointing out similarities.

Funny though, how they've recently done studies to show that alcohol is cause of mouth and throat cancer, where as weed still continues to be less toxic than aspirin.

Any substance which lets you percieve the world , even a little bit, in a different way is the definition of expanding your mind. Ten years from now, all the people who said 'oh, your a stoner? (pitying look)' will be puffing away (or eating, whatever you want).

We all know it's fine. Just got to work on the legal side now eh and hope this post doesn't get burned

Peace

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Any substance which lets you percieve the world , even a little bit, in a different way is the definition of expanding your mind.

It's fascinating that so many people have been brainwashed into believing this is a hugely negative thing and that there is some sort of "correct" chemical composition of our brain that we are supposed to perceive the universe with. They don't realise the extent at which even just emotions change perceptions, but most are aware that emotions can often be irrational (leading to irrational perceptions of the world).

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.
-Bob Marley

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Nicely put Az, couldn't agree more. I'd say the vast majority of people who are against drugs (i'll let you know now that i am against some drugs, some of them are evil) haven't reasoned themselves in to that position; they have just been habitually programmed in to thinking that way.

You can't reason somebody out of an opinion of they didn't reason themselves in to it, which is why any debate of this subject usually begins with some narrow-minded opposers spouting the same anti-drugs mantra we've heard a thousand times before. Essentially an echo of what TBTB want them to say.

Open your mind, find your own voice and don't be afraid to use it.

Peace

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As long as you don't go down the road of personal usage, advocate legalization and remain on topic, it's all good.

What? So we're not allowed to say that we think it should be legalized? Due to legal status of the drug, i'm certainly not saying people should break the law and go and buy it, but based on my own meandering experience in this life and the results of clinical trials, it is my opinion that it should be legalized.

So long as there is no advocation, am I allwoed to convey my opinion on the subject?

Smurf...

Replied, Flagged and Starred as my meager way of being able to help keep this thread on the front page!

As I said on another thread on the topic, everyone who reads this should flag it and reply!

This information should NEVER be hidden and this plant should NEVER have been banned!

Read "Hemp for Health", "The Emperor wears no clothes" etc, etc, etc!!!

Educate yourself on the (political/economic/greedy/SELFISH) reasons why this plant and it's byproducts were banned and the MANY reasons why that should not have happened!

Alchohol is MORE poisonous than all of the Hemp on the planet combined is, and KILLS more people than all of the Hemp on the planet could! BUT, alchohol is LEGAL!

You are allowed to kill yourself and others, legally, with alcohol, but you are not allowed to HEAL yourself and others AND the planet with a plant, a "weed", a natural substance!

Makes sense....to someone....somewhere, it's just that no-one knows who...or where!!!!

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The only thing that is not allowed, if I recall right is bragging about doing illegal things, like doing drugs. Advocating that it should be legal, and that people should have a right to decide which herbs and or medicines they take into their bodies is fine.

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Nice, thanks for replying. I was hoping this was the case would have hated the thought of being censored on ATS.

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Advocating that it should be legal, and that people should have a right to decide which herbs and or medicines they take into their bodies is fine.

I'm not so sure. This is what a mod had to say about it on the previous page.

Originally posted by maria_stardust
Any more talk about personal usage, that MJ should be legalized or that it stinks that toking is illegal will result in the closure of this thread.

ATS is pretty heavily censored when it comes to this topic.