Tokyo Electric Dumps Radioactive Water into Ocean

Yea, this issue is going to affect Japan's status for a long time. Dumping 11,000+ tons of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean is their trump card? This is going to hurt Big time, not only the ocean and its fragile inhabitants, but also the food chain and they know it!

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why do they do things like this? are they aware that EARTH is our only home. The only place you will see beautiful oceans, creatures, flowers, plants, buildings, stop signs, roads, ANYTHING besides just sand and gas. Why would anyone want to jepordize that?! ARGHHH i have had it with humanity.

Its the beginning of the end...I think this is the prophecy in the bible where the rest of the ocean dies...It is a lot of radiation....and it will still just keep being poured into the ocean...

Very tragic...what is there to do about this? hmmm

Originally posted by NerdGoddess
why do they do things like this? are they aware that EARTH is our only home. The only place you will see beautiful oceans, creatures, flowers, plants, buildings, stop signs, roads, ANYTHING besides just sand and gas. Why would anyone want to jepordize that?! ARGHHH i have had it with humanity.

You got it. The only way nature can survive is our extinction. If we can leave this planet one day with spaceships, the whole damn universe is in danger because of us. Let evolution or what ever create a better human in a few 1000000 years, maybe that one is not such a bad design. It's a shame being a human.

Originally posted by maestromason
Yea, this issue is going to affect Japan's status for a long time. Dumping 11,000+ tons of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean is their trump card? This is going to hurt Big time, not only the ocean and its fragile inhabitants, but also the food chain and they know it!

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maybe its about time that the Japanese stop eating whales and dolphins...

Japan believed to be quitting whaling season early

www.smh.com.au...

We seriously need a plan B, C, D, E, and F for nuclear incidences...This is simply a lack of critical planning..all of this stuff is actually.

The ocean is not a good plan..it will harm the coastal areas and make the fishing industry flounder (pun?)...surely there is a really freaking deep cave somewhere in japan they can transport and dump all this stuff into and simply seal it off

All nuke plants need to be right butt up against a seriously deep and disconnected cave system to toss the junk down there and let it sit for a half million years untouched..there are plenty of caves that do not hit the water table and are not connected to other caves..its just a matter of researching them.

As far as this though..well, nothing good can come of it, however, when your desperate, your desperate..I have no alternative solutions for this incident, so I won't condemn it, nor even pretend to understand the total impact (be it minor, or incredibly horrible)..but a bit of common sense tells me that dumping radioactive waste in the place where you get your best sushi is probably not a good idea.

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Originally posted by bladdersweat

Originally posted by maestromason
Yea, this issue is going to affect Japan's status for a long time. Dumping 11,000+ tons of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean is their trump card? This is going to hurt Big time, not only the ocean and its fragile inhabitants, but also the food chain and they know it!

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maybe its about time that the Japanese stop eating whales and dolphins...

Japan believed to be quitting whaling season early

www.smh.com.au...

not that I disagree with that statement, but what does this particular thread have to do with whales and dolphins beyond how it may effect them?

in the west, we eat cows (india finds them to be holy), we eat pigs (middle east finds them to be basically the devils minions)..people eat weird things that somewhere else in the world the entire culture finds offensive...yes, my western ideals and viewpoints have been conditioned to become angry at their whaling and such, however, I am a meat eater and will gladly eat a bacon cheeseburger...offending half the world with its deliciousness...

Originally posted by cushycrux

Originally posted by NerdGoddess
why do they do things like this? are they aware that EARTH is our only home. The only place you will see beautiful oceans, creatures, flowers, plants, buildings, stop signs, roads, ANYTHING besides just sand and gas. Why would anyone want to jepordize that?! ARGHHH i have had it with humanity.

You got it. The only way nature can survive is our extinction. If we can leave this planet one day with spaceships, the whole damn universe is in danger because of us. Let evolution or what ever create a better human in a few 1000000 years, maybe that one is not such a bad design. It's a shame being a human.

You are so right. Man by its nature is destructive. Then we as a species are talking about intergalactic space travel someday, doing s#@! like this to our own home? You do not crap where you eat! plain and simple! Then the Japaneses PM cries, yea, like his tears are going to help the ecology any! Those are some heavy elements and will be staying right where they are dumping for quite some time as well as doing some spreading across the globe! I just had a discussion with my brother about how when we were little boys we had a cornucopia of insects to play with 30+ years back, now you literally do not see a honey bee let alone the other diversified insect species.

Man has the antithesis of the Midas touch but what ever he touches turns to detritus!

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i am a lifetime, third generation, vegetarian, my family is zazen buddhist so i don't kill any sentient beings for food. it is a karmic law that we must move beyond before we evolve further.

Originally posted by maestromason

Originally posted by cushycrux

Originally posted by NerdGoddess
why do they do things like this? are they aware that EARTH is our only home. The only place you will see beautiful oceans, creatures, flowers, plants, buildings, stop signs, roads, ANYTHING besides just sand and gas. Why would anyone want to jepordize that?! ARGHHH i have had it with humanity.

You got it. The only way nature can survive is our extinction. If we can leave this planet one day with spaceships, the whole damn universe is in danger because of us. Let evolution or what ever create a better human in a few 1000000 years, maybe that one is not such a bad design. It's a shame being a human.

You are so right. Man by its nature is destructive. Then we as a species are talking about intergalactic space travel someday, doing s#@! like this to our own home? You do not crap where you eat! plain and simple! Then the Japaneses PM cries, yea, like his tears are going to help the ecology any! Those are some heavy elements and will be staying right where they are dumping for quite some time as well as doing some spreading across the globe! I just had a discussing with my brother about how when we were little boys we had a cornucopia of insects to play with 30+ years back, now you literally do not see a honey bee let alone the other diversified insect species.

Man has the antithesis of the Midas touch but what ever he touches turns to detritus!

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screw him and his damned tears, I dont want to see him cryiing , i want to see him standing in a foot of radiated water and waste with the rest of the people trying to fix things.
Crying, jesus like anyone cares about your tears anymore.

Originally posted by bladdersweat
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i am a lifetime, third generation, vegetarian, my family is zazen buddhist so i don't kill any sentient beings for food. it is a karmic law that we must move beyond before we evolve further.

Define sentient being...how do you know plants are not sentient? They may be far more advanced than mankind are in ways of thinking and spiritual force...and you rip them apart, eat their babys, etc...

No matter which way you go, you end up hurting life...life feeds on life, its how it is.
a Tiger chasing down its prey cares little about karma verses how delicious that is going to taste...a spider sucking the life out of a housefly isn't doing alot of praying beforehand..it simply spins its web and eats.

I am a softie when it comes to -some- mammals...however, I see life as being life...I am not one to judge which animal is a worthy sentient life, and what is a mindless mass of material to eat...hell, rocks may have souls for all I know.

I think the big karma thing here may not be in what you eat, but why you eat...and more importantly, to understand that it is a simple natural process. we eat things we find inferior to our own species..be it a cow, or the sex organs of plants..same difference really.To suggest otherwise is considered anthropomorphicising your belief system onto the food/life. Want to truely step out of the "karma" food chain issue...figure out a way to get energy straight from sunlight and never eat another living thing again...because until then, your just as guilty eating your turnip burger as someone eating a triple bypass meatburger...and to think your not may be a much bigger karmic issue than a person accepting his omnivore nature.

I don't understand what is new about this fact. Does it not stand to reason that all of that water dumped on the reactors would quickly make its way the couple of hundred yards to the ocean!!!

It is absolutely amazing how the barest details are released from Petco and the Japanese government which fail to convey exactly what they know from that data. It is like they are standing around most of the time simply shrugging about what is going on directly at their feet. You could not write a movie script that surreal!

It wouldn't surprise me if Petco didn't have secret dump pipes into the ocean just for such a purpose.

I am sure they pump radioactive water in the ocean since day 2.

they should be tried for war crimes...we should be forming a lynch mob right now, and we need to get these maniacs out of there and we need to take control and start pouring concrete...we are all going to die, the NWO master depopulation plan has now finally come into focus...i hope they all burn in hell

Originally posted by SaturnFX
All nuke plants need to be right butt up against a seriously deep and disconnected cave system to toss the junk down there and let it sit for a half million years untouched..there are plenty of caves that do not hit the water table and are not connected to other caves..its just a matter of researching them.

I'm sooooo cynical this evening, all I can see is your plan "UC", for underground cavern, being carried out like this. Enclosed in a glass case at the power plant is a set of shovels, with the instructions label on the outside of the case...."In case of meltdown, take shovels and dig fast and really, really deep."

too bad we can't just launch all this crap out into space...oh wait...we probably can...dur

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Wouldn't it have been a Better Idea to Boil the Radioactive Water in Giant Tanks turning it into Steam that Evaporates into the Already Radioactive Air over Fukashima ? Why Dump it Directly into the Ocean ? What Knucklehead over there Decided to do that in the First Place ? .........Geez.......

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Here is a vid on plants and having feelings.

There is quite a few videos on these experiments. It's about plants and electrical signals. Plants also communicate through electrical signals. It is very strange, but interesting.



Pretty cool huh?

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You have to look at the elements that you are dealing with first in order to make a logical decision as what to do with the water.

Collecting it to store and then processing it off/on site vs. dumping it into the Ocean

Hard call, each has its own can of worms, you would think that the lesser of the two would be common sense, but think about....

Dumping it into a ocean which has a vast ecology who will then have to process or metabolize that concentrated radioactive waste material was to me the wrong call. I would go as far to say that they have their own sea(The Sea of Japan) that is mostly enclosed, had they dumped all of that hot material into The Sea of Japan then they would have a situation of stagnate radioactivity within their land, but it would have been largely contained.


My problem with their decision is that it takes time for the dynamics of the world's oceanic flow to circulate and over that time you have exposure which in radioactive terms it is best that the two never meet.

Opt #1 then taken- question arises...How do you process radioactive water steadily in those quantities?

You would then have to build storage tanks and have a logistical system of pumping water from site to storage to treatment site. I still say they went the coward's route on the dumping but, maybe they did not. Maybe they assessed their options and found out that they needed the NOW OPTION rather than the time it takes to build a processing facility.

I say it actually goes back 40 years when they chose the site to build 6 NUCLEAR PLANTS ON A ACTIVE FAULT LINE. genius at its finest, the eternal Darwinian award goes straight to the Site Engineer(whoever designed the site). If I did, I know that swinging from a tree would be to good for me).