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The Quran: An Eyebrow of a Mistress

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posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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A good Muslim friend of mine once, before a few Muslims, was lamenting to them that the Quran's importance is its spirit ONLY. By spirit we mean the guidance inside of it and what it means to people who believe in it. To demonstrate his point he put the book up his rear end. Naturally the few people there were horrified, but he made his point.

The Quran in the form of a book is ink and paper, that’s basically what it is particularly when the religious literalists in Afghanistan are rioting over ink and paper and due to this there has been the unfortunate horror of people dying over ink and paper.

They killed innocent people over INK AND PAPER!

God or whatever force revealed it isn’t hurt by anyone burning it because what they burned is only ink and paper.

The pastor in Florida has also only harmed ink and paper therefore his deed has no real meaning other than inflaming ignorant fundamentalist like him who are misguided like him

The Sufis, a mystical brand of Islam, say that the Quran is “an Eyebrow of a Mistress”

Of course that is symbolic less the low level thinking literalist in religion think that the Quran is really an eyebrow on a beautiful woman.

This tells us something. It tells us that the literalist in religion have down the years, and today with these horrible events, have been fighting and murdering each other over symbols, metaphors, and INK AND PAPER!



posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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Could you please link to the story about the pastor in Florida? I have no idea what the case is. Thanks.


But the fact that the Quran or the Bible or even the Constitution are just ink and paper is true. But it's the message that the people are attached to. I agree with you. I support burning the Quran or the flag or the bible, or even the Constitution as a way of expressing one's beliefs. I think it's sad that people take these things so seriously.

Another point you made is that people were killed over ink and paper. People have been killed for oil, land, ideas, religion, thought... People kill other people. They don't even need an important reason...
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posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Good point...





posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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I,POSTED THIS ON ANOTHER PERSON'S PAGE HERE,I,AM POSTING HERE TO THANK YOU,

posted on 3-4-2011 @ 17:11 this post I,HAVE SOMETHING I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO READ,THAT I,POSTED ON FACEBOOK TO A ARTICLE. ‘Israel is Driving Drunk’ Catholic Priest & Professor Joins Anti -Israel Protest at Minnesota State.
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THIS IS PROOF ,I FOUND IN A BOOK,MUST GET AND READ,VERY INTERESTING.IT MAY HELP THE WORLD SEE,FACTS ON THE TEMPLE MT........BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND JEWS


Melody Edington I, am for israel,that is gods land,and the Jews,we should leave them alone in peace.i stand with Israel! i am a christian,I, believe my bible and facts and truth about that land. also in the Quran it is stated that Muhammad had a dream of going to Israel,i will get the quotes to show all.like our rev elater john did of going to heaven. i love all,but it is documented in books in Hebrew,Quran,and our books.i don't want to start trouble.I, do believe that you have the rgt to chose what you what to believe in as for faith.
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Melody Edington in the book,called a brief guide to al=-haram al-sharif,on page 4 ,published by the supreme moslem council,in 1924,and in the 1950.says,the site is one of the oldest in the world,its site is of the solomn temple,beyond dispute,this to is the spot accounding to the universal belief is where david built a alter TO the lord,and offered burnt offerings there.
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Melody Edington on page 16 it says,in the west walll a chamber ,a door,to solomons stables.,accounding to josephus,it was in existance ,with thejews,until conquest of jerusalem,by titus in the year,70 ad.
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Melody Edington also on page 16 it says,the first flight of stairs,in a small chamber,is believed to be with jesus infancy,and underneath,the dome,is a small niche lyinh hortizonally,which was believed to have been the cradle of christ,and referred to under that name by several arab historian.,so what are to think after reading this in their books.
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Melody Edington in the QURAN,IT SAYS IN SURA 17:1,GLORY TO HIM,WHO CARRIED HIS SERVANT BY NIGHT FROM SACARED MOSQUE,IN MECCA,TO THE REMOTE,MOSQUE IN JERUSALEM,THE PASSAGE REFERS TO A MYSTICAL NIGHT RIDE MUHAMMAD PURPORTLY HAD IN AD 621,WHEN,A WINGED,DONKEY-LIKE CREATURE CALLED AL-BURAQ BROUGHT HIM FROM MECCA TO JERUSALEM,AND BACK.
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Melody Edington A ROUND TRIP OF 1,510 MILES,IN A SINGLE NIGHT.TRADITION SAYS MUHAMMAD ASCENDED TO HEAVEN FROM JERUSALEM,AND LED ALL PHOPHETS IN PRAYER IN THE MASJID AL-AQSA.BUT THEY SAY IT WAS MYSTICAL.,THE MUSLIM SCHOLAR,MUAULANA MUHAMMAD ALI,SAID,THE ASCENSION WAS NOT A TRANSLATION OF THE BODY,BUT THE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE OF THE HOLY PROPHET.THE BOOK OF THE QURAN,EXISTED IN BOOK FORM IN 632.
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Melody Edington A MUSLIMS STRUCTURE WASN'T ON THE TEMPLE MT,UNTIL 638
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Melody Edington SO WHAT ARE WE TO THINK?
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posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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I,PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BURN ANYONE'S BOOK, I,AM A CHRISTIAN,I,DON'T WANT MY BOOK BURNED UP. JUST BECAUSE WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH SOMEONE FAITH,WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE,ONLY GOD...IF WE JUDGE WE WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE JUST AS THEY ARE.HERE IS SOMETHING ELSE I WROTE,YOU MAY LIKE,OR NOT.ITS YOUR FREEDOM OF CHOICE.posted on 3-4-2011 @ 18:42 this post I,just know in the beginning,it was just man,mankind made religion. then it became jews and gentile........jesus was born out of the jewish tribes....Religion can sometimes keep us from God,god isn't religion. he is perfection. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.
Matthew 5:8

For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them. But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
Matthew 13:15-16

If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.
Isaiah 7:9 novan.com... saw this article,very interesting, "Separating God from Religion"

by Donald L. Hamilton

Religions are simply the outgrowth of ancient myths and dogmas handed down from
generation to generation and formalized into faiths, rituals and traditions.
Ever since the dawn of mankind, when God revealed the possiblity of his existence to mankind by giving humans a powerful imagination, people have wondered about their origins. Where did we come from? Who created us? Over the centuries, to answer these very basic questions, our storytellers have invented many myths, stories and dogmas. Religions are simply the outgrowth of these ancient myths and dogmas handed down from generation to generation and formalized into faiths, rituals and traditions.

Human Imagination, mankind's "special sense", is the power that separates mankind from all the other animals on Earth - it is made possible by a powerful brain, capable of comprehending the wonders of nature and the world we live in. Mankind now had the power to begin to comprehend the beauty that surrounded it. Something must have created all this magnificient beauty. I can "see" for myself, through my imagination, the beauty of its creations - it is everywhere I look. In order to understand the true nature of God, the Creator of the universe, we must separate the myths of mankind from the physical evidence of God's existence.

The "Secular God", (God without the religious myths), the creator of the universe and father of life is an infinitely powerful creative force who knows no bounds and exists everywhere. Nothing is impossible for this creative power, his power extends - even beyond the universe.

When we take away religion, with all its myths and stories, etc. from the realm of God what is left? Evidence of a "Secular God's" existence is all around us - the primary evidence of God's existence is the beauty of its creations that we can see and experience.

God created "Nature", the physical laws of nature (physics, chemistry and biology) that guides everything within the universe, including mankind! Our lives are completely dominated by the laws of inertia and gravity (and all the other laws of nature). We cannot see the laws but we certainly know they exist by the effects they produce. (The law of gravity will make us - if we are not constantly supported by the floor or ground, immediately become weightless and began accelerating toward the center of the earth.)

The "Secular God" brought the universe into existence by creating the Laws of Nature - where these laws end - the universe ends. We can use Nature's laws for our benefit but if we don't use them wisely they can quickly bring catastrophe. The laws exist everywhere within the universe and are completely invariant, we have the power to use them - but we cannot break any law of nature! By understanding the laws of nature we are beginning to learn the true nature of God.

Nature governs the universe through its physical laws - these laws are perfect and invariant - they are unbreakable. Everything within the universe are governed by these laws. The unique personality of the universe is created by the laws of nature. What would our universe be without inertia or gravity or for that matter - biology? No stars or life (as we know it) could exist without these fundamental laws of nature.

The beauty and splendor of nature lies before us to behold and comprehend. Mankind's imagination - made possible the inventions of the wireless communication, the telescope, microscope and scientific investigation. These inventions allowed mankind to peer into secret exotic worlds of nature - astronomy, cosmology, physics, chemistry, microbiology, electromagnetic spectrum, etc. that we never even knew existed before. What tremendous power created all this physical phenomena and natural wonders that we constantly encounter (and there may be more that we haven't discovered yet).

Religions on the other hand, are guides for living our lives morally - rules made to persuade us to get along with each other - under the threat of eternal damnation or eternal happiness in heaven. Mankind creates political and religious rules - God creates the physical laws. We can choose, whether or not, we wish to obey mankind's rules - but we must obey God's laws (nature's laws) - we have no choice in that area. (You cannot step out of a window and decide to fall up rather then down. Nature's laws always prevail).

Religions are tremendously powerful influences that control and guide the lives of billions of people in the world today. Some have done tremendous harm over the ages, (wars, inquisitions, torture, terrorism, and even human sacrifice) and some have done tremendous good by creating beautiful religious traditions and civilized moral codes (the ten commandments, etc.) to guide their followers.

Be skeptical - be careful which religious beliefs, myths and dogmas you follow. You can either choose to believe these stories or not. Just remember they are all put forth by human storytellers. Religions are based on faith and do have a definite place in our society for moral guidance, marriage rituals and burial services, etc. - but never take religion too literally - there is no proof of physical evidence that any of these myths are true.

Throughout the ages of mankind there have always been storytellers (prophets, priests, mullahs, etc.) who have created myths and magical fantasies in trying to explain the mysteries that surrounded them. Basically mankind is a storytelling animal - people have created stories to answer every possible question that has ever occurred to mankind whether there is or is not any evidence.

The main problem with religion is they were written by men who said God told them to write their words down. The only trouble with that is people are corrupt! They are great storytellers, some may be true but others are either embellishments or out right lies! Why would you believe what men write down and tell you - "this is the word of God" - maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Only through your faith can you believe them - there is no proof in any of them. If you have faith in their writings - that they truly are the word of God - then you can believe though faith in that religion.

The evil side of many religions written by men for example are:


The Aztec priests told their followers that God told them to cut the hearts out of their victims. Can you believe that thousands of Aztecs for hundreds of years did believe this nonsense and had their hearts cut out in that religion.
On 9/11 some radical Muslim leaders told the hijackers that if they would fly their airliners full of innocent people into and destroy the world trade center, killing everyone on board and the thousands in the center, they would go straight to paradise. Do you believe this was the word of God? Do you believe that God, the Creator of the universe would reward these people? Billions of muslims unfortunately do believe this nonsense.
During the dark ages thousands of Christian people were accused of being witches or heretics and were tortured and burnt to death at the stake by Chrisian leaders to save their souls. Do you believe God or Jesus told them to do that?
There are many other examples of religious human and animal sacrifices and practices that came and went over the ages. Its the naive people who are easily persuaded by some smooth talking religious storytellers that give them their power no matter how ridiculous their ideas are.

The only true "word of God" are the physical "Laws of Nature" some which were discovered by the great science philosophers such as Newton, Archimedes, Kepler, Copernicus, Einstein, etc.. and can predict future events. Even here some of these laws may not be entirely correct and may have to be changed in the future. These ideas are truly the word of "God the Creator of the Universe" and have evidence to back them up..

The prophets and storytellers, since ancient times, have always tried to explain the mysteries that they encountered in life - by creating Gods. The God of lightning, the God of thunder, etc. etc.. To get peoples attention and make their stories much more powerful these storytellers claim to have a direct link with God or their Gods. God talks to no one - anyone who says God talked to him or her - is either mentally disturbed or telling stories. Mankind is full of these storytellers!

The storytellers created powerful myths and dogmas to guide people in a moral and civilized manner or just to control people to do their bidding, by saying their stories were the 'Word of God' or this is the "Will of God" or you will go to Hell if you don’t follow these teachings. (These are all extremely powerful concepts that have strongly influenced people throughout the ages.) www.abovetopsecret.com... READ THE REST..................THANK YOU



posted on Apr, 3 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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GOD THIS , GOD THAT, its not god or ink and paper , this people in afghanistan are so poor the only valuable possesion they have its their Religion.This Pastor TERRY JONES burn their holly book sitting in his big fat trone like a miniemperor /,Since last years attemp to burn the koran and raising an uproar in the Muslim community in Florida,he finally did it two weeks ago. PROBABLY he thought nobody will know he did this,im sure somebody in Florida blow the wistle to the muslim countries.Just recently his actions claimed 7 innocent lives UN workers.Now is this pastor someone who is evil and has no respect for human life????,,,,The mob in Afghanistan thought they were killing the americans judging the skin color,but some were from Sweden and Romania.Now mi QUESTION IS,whats gonna happend to the real AMERICANS AROUND THE WORLD???....theres about 10 muslims for each 2 christians being the muslim religion the biggest in the world.And what about our service men?/??what about the fanatics extremists that claim jihad?????.....they are worse than the mayan priest claiming the hearts of the enemy.Really this guy can have more blood in his hands just like any other terrorist/,For some people its not just ink and paper.....



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