Secret Societies like Wizards or Human like creatures.

This might be weird but, what are the odds are there being some kind secret societies like Wizards in Harry Potter or another species that are almost like humans on Earth but nobody really found them because they actually look like humans. I personally don't believe any of these but im just making a topic and wonder if you might believe any of things like this.

P.S Sorry if this is in the wrong forum area...im new

I think its a bit far fetched tbh

I think its a bit far fetched tbh

I'm with you, and i bet alot of people are probably on the same road. I just wanted something weird or cool as my first topic

reply to post by Nightstalker44


I believe it Could be possible that there are other dimensions that we are not cabaple of viewing at our current evolutionary level. And in those dimensions perhaps more advanced humans? Or similar?

It may seem far fetched to some of the posters above but that does NOT mean wizards and things of the such are impossible.

Anything and everything is possible in this whole universe. The Road Holds No Boundaries.

I Like the direction where this thread is going, And I Like It!

But lets just change the view from "Wizards" to "People that can make objects and everything do whatever they want" Just to make it sound a little less far fetched. And yes, anything is possible!

I think the world is not a harry potter movie

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there is so much happening on this planet, as well as within it. so many species, so many abilities, little to no limits. where did the idea of wizards come from anyways??

where did the idea of wizards come from anyways??

Yesterday night, i was laying in bed and thinking about it , if it is true, they better tell me so i can start training as im young

Originally posted by Nightstalker44

where did the idea of wizards come from anyways??

Yesterday night, i was laying in bed and thinking about it

, if it is true, they better tell me so i can start training as im young

maybe we will meet one day after all this "quickening" has taken place. what year were you born if you dont mind me asking? i suggest you get in touch with you spirit guides & ask for assistance in finding training. the real wizards are very hard to find, but, there are many people that can help you in your training.

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I believe that nothing is impossible.

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Not wizards, but the masters of secret societies are mind control specialists.

" The very specific character of the preparation points
to real knowledge of the occult physiology of the process
of initiation on the part of those who originated the method
which has been so faithfully preserved. Certain Forces are
sent through the candidate's body during the ceremony,
especially at the moment when he is created, received and
constituted an Entered Apprentice Freemason. Certain
parts of the Lodge have been very heavily charged with
magnetic force especially in order that the Candidate may
absorb as much as possible of this force."
---- Freemasonry Universal vol. V, Part 2, Autumn Equinox,
1929, p. 58.

"All kinds of nice inspiring symbolical interpretations of the ritual are generally given for the benefit of people who seem to want them, but it is here evident that the candidate, unknown to himself or herself, has acted throughout the ceremony of initiation under the stress of hypnotism.
No longer a free agent, the initiate takes the oath under hypnotic force which, has also been used to instill into him the feeling of fear. Fear guards the secret of initiation, fear born under the power of hypnotism to serve henceforth as the controlling agent of the initiators over the initiated. The Right Worshipful Master must be a genuine occultist, as it is up to him to charge (hypnotise) the candidate." --- occult theocrasy.

The wizards of old were blacksmiths who knew the secret of smelting and metal working. Did you know that make-up (cosmetics) is a by product of smelting? I think they were called God-kings back in those days. They had stuff like advanced alloys that could cut through low temperature metals (excalibur), knowlege of chemistry (potions), and secret knowledge (reading & writting).

If there are any modern wizards it is only through the use of keeping some information secret and letting everyone else make uninformed decisions. Let's take a look at the modern wizard Harry Potter. Could it be that he is just a lawyer in training, who has been learning the secret incantations of legaleeze?


Here is a brilliant post on the subject by Member Jean Paul Zodeaux.

The Mystical Incantations of the Priest Class Lawyer Set


David Grouchy

Normal Chinese societies were far better and advanced in knowledge (smelting, herbs, chemnistry, alchemy inventions) than any european based secret society...

For a more mystical explanaition saying the exact same thing, but from the perspective of art, creativity, and shaping human thought Here is Alan Moore's very long video talking about his becoming a magician and how it works.



1 hour 14 minutes running time.

In case the reader is unfamiliar with Alan Moore, or doubts weather his ideas work or not; here is a list of some of the movies that have been made from his stuff.

swamp thing
From Hell
V for vendetta
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Constantine
Watchmen

David Grouchy

Originally posted by illuminazislayer
Not wizards, but the masters of secret societies are mind control specialists.

" The very specific character of the preparation points
to real knowledge of the occult physiology of the process
of initiation on the part of those who originated the method
which has been so faithfully preserved. Certain Forces are
sent through the candidate's body during the ceremony,
especially at the moment when he is created, received and
constituted an Entered Apprentice Freemason. Certain
parts of the Lodge have been very heavily charged with
magnetic force especially in order that the Candidate may
absorb as much as possible of this force."
---- Freemasonry Universal vol. V, Part 2, Autumn Equinox,
1929, p. 58.

"All kinds of nice inspiring symbolical interpretations of the ritual are generally given for the benefit of people who seem to want them, but it is here evident that the candidate, unknown to himself or herself, has acted throughout the ceremony of initiation under the stress of hypnotism.
No longer a free agent, the initiate takes the oath under hypnotic force which, has also been used to instill into him the feeling of fear. Fear guards the secret of initiation, fear born under the power of hypnotism to serve henceforth as the controlling agent of the initiators over the initiated. The Right Worshipful Master must be a genuine occultist, as it is up to him to charge (hypnotise) the candidate." --- occult theocrasy.

edit on 9-5-2011 by illuminazislayer because: formatting.

Having practiced magick in various forms, and having been through and witnessed the Masonic initiation rituals many, many times, I have to say there are neither hypnotic nor "certain forces sent through the candidate's body" in any of the Masonic rituals. I know a magickal charge when I feel one, and I have yet to feel such a charge from any Masonic ceremony.

Originally posted by Nightstalker44
This might be weird but, what are the odds are there being some kind secret societies like Wizards in Harry Potter or another species that are almost like humans on Earth but nobody really found them because they actually look like humans. I personally don't believe any of these but im just making a topic and wonder if you might believe any of things like this.

P.S Sorry if this is in the wrong forum area...im new

There only seems to be human beings (homo sapiens) on earth; the other species of hominoids which were similar to us died off long ago; they were possibly eaten by homo sapiens, as some evidence suggests..

With regards to societies of "Wizards," in Harry Potter they have miraculous non-scientific powers; that is just children's fiction; the purpose of magick is not about miraculous powers; there is simply no evidence of miraculous powers; religious charlatons who make such claims are just practicing forms of stage magic and hypnosis.

Generally the "Wizard" who practices necromancy often seeks power over others, and materiali gain; in organised cults this is often large scale military and economic power, but essentially still about the aquisition of Capital, and there is a karmic price to pay for this. The most common form of necromantic wizardry is among the charlatans of Christianity. The objective of Masonry also seems to be primarily about the aquisition of Capital.

If one reads the vast plethora of "women's magazines" which fill the newsagent shelves on modern New Age magick and spiritualism, they are generally just women obsessed with aquiring love and material benefits, and are filled with adverts from fake psychics and mediums claiming to have special powers; this desire for love and material security seems to be quite natural; love and economic security are at the heart of a woman's desire, however the large scale cults of the Capitalist world take this to an extreme, and the accumulation of wealth which causes the mass enslavement of others can hardly be seen as benevolent. Freemasons seem to exist as a gang which is entwined with the military, the financial sector and with Anglo-American state terrorism, narco-terrorism and imperialism, which is essentially about the economic enslavement of humankind under the dictatorship of Capitalism, and thus it entirely malevolent in my judgement.

Originally posted by illuminazislayer
Not wizards, but the masters of secret societies are mind control specialists.

Yes, of course. Many of the Grand Masters of esoteric societes also made quite a good living from the collection of fees for degrees of initiation; Macgregor Mathers allegedly did quite well out of the O.T.O. Religion is often a highly profitable business.

I should point out that I believe there to to malevolent and benevolent forces at work and that many of the modern Neowiccanists and Neopagans are pracitioners of "white magick." It should also be pointed out that the specialist field of "Psychology of Religion" could also be redefined as the study of "religious hypnosis, indoctrination and cult mind control." and that there are many individuals who attempt to practice "dehypnosis" and to remove the effects of religious indoctrination; I would consider myself to be one of many such individuals. I do understand how religious hypnosis and indoctrination works, but I certainly don't practice that diabolical Craft; indeed I attempt to simplify, explain and expose it.

"All kinds of nice inspiring symbolical interpretations of the ritual are generally given for the benefit of people who seem to want them, but it is here evident that the candidate, unknown to himself or herself, has acted throughout the ceremony of initiation under the stress of hypnotism.
No longer a free agent, the initiate takes the oath under hypnotic force which, has also been used to instill into him the feeling of fear. Fear guards the secret of initiation, fear born under the power of hypnotism to serve henceforth as the controlling agent of the initiators over the initiated. The Right Worshipful Master must be a genuine occultist, as it is up to him to charge (hypnotise) the candidate." --- occult theocrasy.

Yes people can come to genuinely live in fear of the Master's demon (a malevolent astral intelligence; i.e., a being in another dimension); they can even have dreams and visions which reinforce this fear; the idea is not to produce a "free person" but a person who is bound to the will of the master in this life and to his demon in eternity; essentially it is about the production of an army of slaves. Unfortunately the most common name given to such a demon is "God," and this name seems to be one of the most terrifying phantoms which people live in fear of. Since many cults operate not only as religions but as gangs of organised ganster Capitalists, the idea of "selling one's soul to a Capitalist Devil" is manifested in many such cults; often such cults do have the power to endow a person with wealth; the more wealth the members of a religious cult posess, generally the more malevolent the cult is. People who are benevolent are generally humanitarians who wish to liberate humankind from the devils of gangster Capitalism and the slavery of organised religion.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Having practiced magick in various forms, and having been through and witnessed the Masonic initiation rituals many, many times, I have to say there are neither hypnotic nor "certain forces sent through the candidate's body" in any of the Masonic rituals. I know a magickal charge when I feel one, and I have yet to feel such a charge from any Masonic ceremony.

Yes that is unsurprising; the Masonic rituals are rather bizarre pantomime rituals and they appear to be either incredibly boring and mudane or just downright sily; however this does not mean that they are inneffective; since organised religion is essentially a business, the fact that so many people are willing to pay for such rituals and the fancy dress costumes and regalia which go along with them, is certainly a testimony to the fact that Masonic cult franchises can be lucrative, and the from the point of view of a cult Master, if a religion is profitable it is successful, as the aquisition of Capital and power over others appear to be the two central pre-occupations of the malevolent magickian.

One needs to also consider that when cults operate as Capitalist gangs (such as the Russian Mafia, which also has religious type ritual initiations), that it is not primarily about what a cultist pays for such an initiation, but about the wealth and power which the inidivuals in the gang can accumulate by concerted effort.

When one studies the world of pantomime religious ritualism, it is certainly bizarre and often utterly boring and ridiculous, but this is not to say that it is not effective in producing a hypnotised and indoctrinated slave. Religious rituals seem to have no hypnotic effect on me as I generally consider them to be ridiculous; however Aleister Crowley's methods of necromantic magick are a quite different matter enitrely, and this method could be described as a mixture of necromancy, sex magick and the extreme use of psychoactives and narcotics; this in my view opens the doors of perception to other dimensions, and "all hell" can break loose; however this method can be used for malevolent or benevolent purposes. A word of warning however, is that with this method one risks one's sanity and the consequences can be religious schizophrenia; once certain doors of perception are opened, sometimes they cannot be closed and the person becomes forever lost to the world and becomes entirely deluded by their subjective (inner) reality; this can also give rise to rebounding into the slavery of religious fanaticism.

It seems to me that some of the more advanced rituals of American Masonry, such as the application of whipped cream and strawberries to the genitals and the homoerotic sexual humiliation rituals and electrocution rituals are just indicative of a cult of very stupid people; however this is not to say that they are powerless. Even the Skull and Bones rituals seem to be the most childish and stupid rituals, but they have certainly produced a fraternity of economically powerful individuals who clearly have a diabolical purpose, which seems to be the accumulation of Capital and power, and whose members have entwined themselves with the higher echelons of the International Dictatorship of Capitalism and with US imperialism, state terrorism, narco-terrorism, and general genocidal mayhem.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Much as I loath the Bible, and am an evangelical anti-Christian, and have devoted many years to the persecution of Christ and his diabolical church (i.e., the Christians); I would amend Paul's words to say that I believe that we are not "merely" struggling against flesh and blood (i.e., human beings in our universe) but against intelligences in the multiverse, some of whom appear to be human-hating and malevolent (such as the Biblical deity) and who are worshipped by the varous religious fanatics and cultists, and which are usually referred to as "God," the ultimate malevolent enemy of humankind and of human nature.


His Imperial Satanic Majesty

Lucifer

Behold! the rituals of the old time are black.

Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet! Then shall this Knowledge go aright.
...
I am the Magician and the Exorcist.

A.C. Liber AL vel Legis (The Book of the Law).