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Michael Moore booed off stage!

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posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 07:36 AM
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Moore is an American he is free to voice his own opinion, and the people at the Oscars voiced their opinion of what he said by either booing him or clapping for him. It's not that difficult to understand.

Like William has said he is a humorist. In his movie "Bowling for Columbine" he even took excerpts from different speeches given by Charlton Heston to make it seem like it was just one speech. When asked about some of the things in the movie, Moore responded that he was just a humorist trying to stir controversy. From this thread you can see that he has accomplished his goal more often than not.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 07:38 AM
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Actually, I'm neutral.

I liked "Roger and Me" but found "Stupid White Men" to be a little too-much grandstanding and posturing. I've enjoyed bashing him for his far-left stance just as much as I've appreciated his stand-up comic style.

Any bashing of Moore doesn't bother me at all.

So back to the question, would you rather have seen some mechanism in place to prevent his type of comment at this time?



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 07:43 AM
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No not all. I think he did good by saying what he feels and then showing the world what he thinks. he has over-exposed himself to an never-ending onslaught.

Tsk-Tsk....I would have accepted my money, award, and went home unoticed.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 07:51 AM
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But what about your comment that his little spew gave "aid and comfort" to the enemy? You're not alone in thinking this of his on-stage antic. What should have been done in your view?



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by William
Now, if you'd like to contribute to discussion on ATS, let's see if you can do it without the corn-ball superior attitude, huh?


Not only have I already contributed immensely to this board in the past under a different account, but I have revealed the true personas of more then a few of your regular posters here. The Attacks that are leveled before me only further validate a claim I made in the liberty forums. Which was, quite simply, that "Those who cannot debate, attempt to discredit"

Liberal Elitist, you say?

That can be taken as a compliment where I come from.

Thank you very much, with kind Moderators such as you, I think I will enjoy this board much more then when I left it shortly after the 9/11 influx of newbie�s.

Your acceptance is appreciated.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 08:07 AM
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USPatriot, sounds like the humble way.


People... now you might not like something about a person, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to voice their opinion. The problem is too often we concern ourselves with the right to disagree above the right of liberty of your tongue. These should be equal at first, to determine the outcome of the two, also for fairness. Today, so many people overlook the truth of the matter. What is the Truth, not what is your truth.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 08:19 AM
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"Moore crossed the line by bringing in his own political statements, which were more about him, his own self-aggrandisement, than anything else."



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by U.S. Patriot
"Moore crossed the line by bringing in his own political statements, which were more about him, his own self-aggrandisement, than anything else."


So again, in your opinion, what should be done to help prevent this kind of "line crossing" in the future?



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 08:48 AM
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All that he did was exercise his right to freedom of speech, pretty plain and simple. As I said, I disagree with his statement but I believe that he really feels that way. What I question was his motivation. Was he trying to make an anti-war statement to persuade others to see things the way he does or was it for publicity, after all what better way to promote a movie but to start a controversy, controversy sells.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 08:53 AM
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THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution


Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances


In Iraq he would've been slain..................



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 09:01 AM
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I'm not sure what side he's on, but I do believe the people need the Truth and if I could say that every single individual used their full potential in seeking that Truth, it would be easier to see. I know Michael is using his tongue. But I don't know if he is selfish, arrogant, or incoruptable. I don't know the man, do you?

People do exploit things and some tell it like it is. One example of an exploit would be the vomit-in or nude protests IMO. It's good to look at or it grabs at you so much that you can't deny it, but is that just an empty clear glass or is it filled to the rim with water that you'd have to check from a different angle, 'touch' the water for the reality check. It's nice or nasty, but being against this war and what it stands for isn't about some 20-60 year olds boob job or that some people are feeling sick
about this war. Focus is on the wrong thing. Hell... common focus is a rarety except when sex, violence, or some taboo's come in to the picture frame.

Telling it like it is. Now that's a different story. You have to be not for personal gain except for your soul. Another words, give your life here for a higher purpose. Something that has who you are at your best in wisdom. As if wanting to spread your wings and fly. I don't mean to sway from Michael but I don't know him. I hear things other people say of him though.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by U.S. Patriot
"I have never been attacked by a black person...." (Michael Moore, Stupid White Men)

The fat leftist swine Michael Moore, who once dared to badger Mayor Rudy Giuliani at a New York City Hall press conference, gave aid and comfort to the Iraqi enemy during the March 23, 2003 Oscar ceremonies by calling President Bush the "fictitious" leader of a "fictious" war. Moore was on hand to accept his Oscar for the anti-gun Bowling for Columbine, a distorted and contemptuous look at the same gun-owning middle Americans whom he pretended to espouse in his first opus, Roger and Me, a socialist attack on America's automobile industry disguised as "centrist" muckraking. In the plagiarized Stupid White Men, the bloated elitist claimed that he has never suffered an injury at the hands of a black.

Would anyone � dare to write a book entitled Stupid Black Men? (A redundant title in any event!)


You've tipped your hand... Watch out for Illmatic. Now we know that you are a racist.

The title is Stupid White Men because that is what the book is about. It is about corporate crime, about corrupt government, both perpetrated by Stupid Greedy White Men. Men who did not look to the future and the effects of their actions, just to how much money they could make from their actions, just as Bush does now.

"Fat Leftist Swine" you said, is that all you can say? focusing on image, on weight, rather than on his ideas? What is wrong with what he says? You're just parroting off some O'Reilly. Think for yourself, form your own opinion. Thats why its so hard to be a liberal. You have Limbaugh, Coulter and O'Reilly to think for you, you dont need to work. How many of the words you used in your condemnation were taken straight off the O'Reilly Show?

Please think before you post.

XAOS



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 10:33 AM
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Hey xaos...........lord of ignorance...........I am part black.


And I should have provided a link to where that is an excerpt ffrom a website. Go HERE scroll down and see for your self.

Shows you that you jump quickly. Next time you jump stand on the edge of a cliff.


[Edited on 26-3-2003 by U.S. Patriot]



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 02:10 PM
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Um, you were being sarcastic about stupid black men being redundant then? Or are you just incredibly self-hating. If you were being sarcastic, I apologize, I hadnt seen you use sarcasm before, I half thought that you were incapable of it. Sorry. My apologies.

XA
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posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 02:12 PM
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I was being sarcastic..........I would not hate my self................



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posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Lysergic
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Yeah, those things surley sucks...

But Michael Moore does make really good TV.. Especially that episode about the city Flynt..

But it irritates me that he writes a book called Stupid White Men.. As someone stated if someone wrote a book called Stupid Black Men, that person would be lynched... And i dont think i need to say wich kind of people commits the most violence related crimes.. Or do I?



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by William

Originally posted by JediMaster
Another baffoon to add to my boycott list.


Can I boycott you?


Everyone really seems to be missing the more important point. And as this thread continues, I find myself more and more liking what Mr. Moore did.

WHAT?

yes

YOU COMMIE BASTARD! WHY

Because he can. And that's much more important than what he said.

But I suppose I don't expect you to understand that.






I've attempted to read the garbage written by this highschool graduate that has little understanding of the nation, is foundation and history or the blueprint for success our founding fathers had for this society.
It is not surprising to me to hear that he is well loved in Europe nowadays considering the majority of the comments I hear from Europeans doesn't sound for endorsing of the U.S. What does disturb me is the fact that Americans aren't educated enough to understand the way this nation ought to be and can't realize within the first couple of pages of a Moore bookthat they wasted their money on garbage. His knee-jerk ultra-leftwing crap veiled with "humor" is nauseating.

William, I serious wonder about your partiotism and love of the vision of the Founding Fathers after your words of sympathy for this unAmerican Moore-on.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 06:22 PM
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Actually, no offense Thomas, I'd be more inclined to question the authenticity of your desire for liberty.

You're right-wing has been wound a little tight lately.. you ok man?


Moore makes me sick more often than he makes me laugh... but I can say the same of Rush. They're both comic satirists that have found their niche audiences at opposite ends of the spectrum. Physically, they're even both similar, which is sort of funny.


As I said, it is far more improtant that people like Moore can easily piss off people like you, than it is about what's being said. The challenge of Liberty is to be able to embrace and support the telling of things that make you sick. Because it's the telling that's important to protect.


Now, Thomas... have you been getting enough beer lately? I know you get cranky when the suds go missing... can someone get Thomas a brew? He mellows out with a pint in front of him.



posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 06:28 PM
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I have a fridge full of beer that anyone here at ATS is more than welcome to. I agree William that just the fact that he is allowed to say what he wants is more important than what he said, no matter how foolish it was. Did you read my last post about his motivation for saying what he did?



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