buging in/out: urban survival items

hello survivalists, i have been trying to come up with a shtf plan lately.. of courst there are many things that can go wrong and i will react dirrerent to all but most likely if i dont stay put and make my house a fortress, i will join up with family/friends and either bug out to a large unpopulated wilderness aria, or i will head in the opposite direction into the small city(after a month or so to let the chaos die down)depends on the situation. the reason i would do this is because IMO it will be just as easy to support a group scavenging in the city(which hopefully most people will flee from and leave supplies) as to support them in a wilderness aria(you can only trap/hunt so mutch a week)..
so i was thinking if i had to grab my bob and head into an urban environment with hopes of joining friends/family, my bob would have to change.

HERE ARE SOME IDEAS FOR URBAN SURVIVAL. FEEL FREE TO ADD WHAT EVER HELPFULL TOOLS/THINGS YOU CAN THINK OF
-sleeping bag,small and light..

-no tent/tarps- instead i would have an auto jiggler set to break into cars for shelter..

-i would also want to have a car charger for electronics, for example a dorcy rechargable flashlight with car charger built in, that way i can charge it in the car i sleep in.

-a magnesium stick- for lighting stove, not for making fires, in an urban aria it will be too easy to light up the town (if its not already burnt down) and the smoke put off by burning trash(i doubt there will be fire wood on the streets) will be be like a smoke signal telling EVERYONE where you are, and the smoke its toxic and deadly in an enclosed aria..

-to cook i would want a white gas stove that can take gasoline(cousin has one but theyre hard to find anyone know where they sell at?), the most common fuel you will find is gas and best of all a little goes a long way, so running out will be hard.

-a soft, gas proof, plastic hose(four feet) for sucking gas out of cars.(put it in emty water bottle there will be plenty all over).

-pump action water filter, not tablets or bleach.

-crossbow with folding prod, that way it will fit in my pack and wont dangle off of it.

-gun for self defense i recomend an ar-7, it is light, small, quiet and you can carry alot more .22 than any other ammo(but remember, it will give your position away so try to use crossbow unless you are up ageanst alot of people)

obviously its not a complete BOB but that is all i can think of for urban right now.. please add or if you disagree on something please let me know(but dont be hating on the gun and saying go pistol, because i know at 50 yards none of us cant hit $h!t with a pistol )
-THNX

After the Japan crisis, I think some kind of dosemeter/Geiger counter and KI pills belong in every bugout bag.

oh yes, great idea, here is a radiation detector that will fit in a BOB alot easier than a geiger counter, and its pretty cheap, the same company also has KI
www.nukepills.com...

A good carbon steel knife and a screwdriver, never know when you need one in a time like that. Also take a ball of string, many uses depending on the kind of shelter available ect but also can set a perimeter trip wire around you if you happen to be in a rural area


Go to a store and buy a white tank-top to maximise the warry-look (sorry, couldn't help it)


This may not be the type of thing you are looking for but i always think the small thinks are also as important as the big things

OMG! the the 7 zillionth post like this.....
please see the otheres.. well some of them.
I sore a prog on TV haw to build a gasmaker.
you put stuff in it and it makes gas????
yes this helps ssooo much!
any one know how to build it??

www.gunsamerica.com... , andwww.parts.cc... not hating on your .22 rifle theory, but here are some more effective weapon ideas. The Mech Tech for the glock is the one I have for my Glock 22. I can get a 4" group easy at a 100 yards with it just messin around at the range. A friend of mine owns the Kel Tec, and this is a nice little rifle, fits in a zippered hiking pack with ease, and .223 ammo is pretty darn light. Also, invest in a good tactical flashlight. They are definitely worth their weight, and a good surefire G2 isnt that heavy, but the quality is outstanding

I would recommend a glock 26 and a tactical holster shirt. Put the glock in one side and a spare clip in the other

www.amazon.com...

yea i forgot a knife, perhapse a multi-tool, and i was thinking a trip wire would be good but exactly how would you set it up so you know when they are coming with out starteling them and making them aware of your presence? and paracord and duct tape always cowe in handy but i dont know if it would be nessisary in an urban situation.
and oooooohh, maaaaa god poeple! the only thing i asked was that you didnt start talkin bout different guns.. but those are good ideas i like kel tecs they feel good when shooting and and are foldable sept the ammo is a lil big and loud. the glock thing is a good idea, i have never shot one let alone heard of it but it should be easier to group at 100yds than a 22, i doubt any of us can group that with a 22.

oh and studentx..good idea, but its called a magazine, not a clip, a clip is a metal clamp that holds ammo togeather and makes it easier to load a magazine(usually for rifles) in a short ammount of time(ex. clips for m1 garand) and a nornal glock wont have verry good acuracy at any distance other than 25yards. sorry man..
any way bact to items.lol

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you could always throw this in your bag!

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Scrap the hose for gas, all you need to do is go underneath the car to the tank and make a hole in it (with screwdriver/awl and a little force). Itll save you bad breath and frustration as there are situations where you wont be able to get the gas with the hose.

Originally posted by croweboy
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Scrap the hose for gas, all you need to do is go underneath the car to the tank and make a hole in it (with screwdriver/awl and a little force). Itll save you bad breath and frustration as there are situations where you wont be able to get the gas with the hose.

That's if you are alive after the tank blows from the spark.

For the stove, I would recommend a bushbuddy or bushcooker, although they do make a visible flame, but I believe you can burn just about anything pretty efficiently in those. Twigs and trash will be a lot easier to find than gasoline.

I was actually going through my bags the other day making sure everything was still squared away. As I was going through it all, I no longer liked the idea of having blue jeans in my bag. The reason, because jeans are not as utility oriented as I am. I do not think there is necessarily a wrong or right answer to this, only personal preference. But, what are others opinions on having jeans vs lets say some BDU or tactical pants? I am contemplating replacing the pants to something more utility oriented and just wondering if I am just being a little to anal about it.

Here is the contents of my bag. Disregard the x3, I have to have 3 bags for my family.

Clothing:x3
Boots
Socks(3pr) 1 Thermal
Pants(2pr)
Sweatshirts – 1 regular 1 hoody
Tshirts (3)
Underwear(3pr)
Thermal underwear
Gloves
Rain Gear

Gear:x3
Signal Mirror
Knife - multitool
Flashlight
First aid kit
Money
Magnesium firestarter
Lighter
Fire kindling
Whistle
Rope
Emergency Blanket
Blanket
MRE (3 each)
Water
Plastic Bags (trash, ziplock)
Compass
Glow Sticks
Flare
Dry box
Duct Tape

Personal Grooming:
Toothbrush
Toothpaste
Soap
Towel
Washcloth
Razors
Female needs

Misc:
Important docs (ss, birth cert, DD214)

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Meh, that's how all the thieves have been doing it since gas took the uptick. For the record, gas is not flammable, the fumes are, makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by mindfreak21

oh and studentx..good idea, but its called a magazine, not a clip, a clip is a metal clamp that holds ammo togeather and makes it easier to load a magazine(usually for rifles)

Oh fine be a nit-picker :p

in a short ammount of time(ex. clips for m1 garand) and a nornal glock wont have verry good acuracy at any distance other than 25yards.

So what? Are you spoiling for a long range gun fight or are you interested in self defense? If someone is so far away as to be out of range you can just...escape.

In self defense it goes in this order:

1. escape
2. control
3. destroy