I have a few questions about astral projection

First of all, I am a believer in the paranormal in some capacity. I have never seen anything that I would call legitimate, but I figure we are more than just the flesh and blood that we see in our living bodies. I have looked into astral projection and would like to be able to experience it but I have some questions about it.

My first question is, when you do this, can you really go into past and future events and see what unfolds? If this is really possible, I would like to know what actual projectors have seen in regards to 2012 and whatnot. Also, if you can go into the future, wouldn't it be possible to find the winning lotto numbers and be a megamillionaire?

Another question I have, is if while projecting is it possible to enter somebody's dream and mess with them? I wouldn't want to do anything bad, just be like, "hey man, you want to go see what outer space looks like."

Also, since within the astral realm you can do anything, couldn't people find missing children and even Bin Laden? If this stuff is real, why haven't people been doing this sort of thing?

My last question is, what is the answer to LIFE. Was it a single God, were there multiple Gods like the Greeks and many other groups believed in, is the ancient astronaut theory right, or did we all just develop from a primordial soup?

I know I can't prevent people from replying, but it would be preferrable that only "real" astral projectors answer the questions. Others can join in and ask their own questions, but I don't want to have to sift through a bunch of BS.

I have a question as well: Is it possible to get your body stolen while astral traveling? This is one reason why I'm scared of trying this out

Originally posted by starwarsisreal
I have a question as well: Is it possible to get your body stolen while astral traveling? This is one reason why I'm scared of trying this out

no, part of your conscious remains in your body at all times.
try not to be afraid of anything while astral projecting, It may inhibit your ability to leave your body. and may alter your experience

Originally posted by Michelangelo
My last question is, what is the answer to LIFE. Was it a single God, were there multiple Gods like the Greeks and many other groups believed in, is the ancient astronaut theory right, or did we all just develop from a primordial soup?

know that we were all something else before we were human, were just using an available form. so how the HUMANS got here. I dont know. But how anything got here is irrelevant. Life will always exist in any form it can.

Its what we do with life that is the important thing to ask yourself.

I have always wanted to try astral projection but then I think what if i cant get back in my body!! Can that happen? I guess I havent researched it enough. I really hope that, that cannot happen so i can give it a real try without fear.

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Indeed it is because Astral travelling is opening yourself to demon possession which is why many people regret doing it.

Originally posted by Michelangelo
My first question is, when you do this, can you really go into past and future events and see what unfolds? If this is really possible, I would like to know what actual projectors have seen in regards to 2012 and whatnot. Also, if you can go into the future, wouldn't it be possible to find the winning lotto numbers and be a megamillionaire?

Once you have learned to navigate via Intent there really is no Boundaries. All history is found at the Akasha.. as are future Possibilities and Probabilities.

Going to the Akasha

The above method is what I use with groups of people as a first introduction to the Akasha. Once you have been there you can get back to it by remembering how it FELT... it's like dialling a phone number.

I don't think it "right" of us to try and win Lotto this way. If you are "meant" to win Lotto then you will get the numbers in a way you can understand.

Originally posted by Michelangelo
Another question I have, is if while projecting is it possible to enter somebody's dream and mess with them? I wouldn't want to do anything bad, just be like, "hey man, you want to go see what outer space looks like."

Also, since within the astral realm you can do anything, couldn't people find missing children and even Bin Laden? If this stuff is real, why haven't people been doing this sort of thing?

Yes it is possible to mess with others dreams. But they will have an automatic protection mode in place, and some may even have protectors with them.

Why anyone would want to mess about in anyone else's dreams is something I fail to understand. You can join another person in the astral. Some people have set times to meet up and do things.

Yes it is easy to find another person on this planet.. you don't even have to be astral to find them.. just need to be clear and know how things work for you.

Why haven't they been doing this? Because Bin Laden is an agreed scapegoat for the agenda, something he was well paid for.

Originally posted by Michelangelo
My last question is, what is the answer to LIFE. Was it a single God, were there multiple Gods like the Greeks and many other groups believed in, is the ancient astronaut theory right, or did we all just develop from a primordial soup?

One source, the Universe. It is Aware Energy that disseminated itself into everything.

The "gods" were physical beings who Visited here. There is a history most people only think of as Myth despite their religions being based on the history.

Originally posted by starwarsisreal
I have a question as well: Is it possible to get your body stolen while astral traveling? This is one reason why I'm scared of trying this out

No it's not.

You have an automatic protection system that reels you back to the body when anything startles "you". And a "higher" version of yourself observes. So you are never really alone and never really in any danger.

Lastly....

Excellent responses from OUNjahhryn

Originally posted by Viking9019
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Indeed it is because Astral travelling is opening yourself to demon possession which is why many people regret doing it.

People experience what they Believe they will experience. Hence why newbies use various energetic Protections to begin with. Once they learn the big secret.. unconditional Love energy is Your greatest Tool they no longer need to baby-step their way.

I was taught to practice as if naked... meaning ott have no Beliefs about anything, have no thoughts on anything, etc... all the things that DO Limit what you can experience and what you DO experience.

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Michelangelo
, 1st question, it takes practice. 2nd question, no, 3rd again its all about practice and control. 4th the is and has been only 1 true God and to not let your heart grow hardened and cold by lifes trials.
Starwarsisreal, YES. You can have your body "occupied" by a malevolent spirit. Although they cannot superimpose their will over you, they can influence you. Never astral project during full moons. This is 1 commonality you will find in all instruction guides.

Some people can do this with great ease where others may try their whole lives without success. I would suggest mild muscle relaxer for 1st timers or novices. It makes it easier to relax. The 1st ride will be the wildest. it is common for 1st timers who acheive seperation to be "dragged" to multiple places in an instant. Most noted as places of interest to the individuals. The shock of what is experienced usually ends the session.

I found this website, it may be able to answer some of your questions. Also some of the books they talk about there might be worth checking out if you are really intrested in this.



www.crystalinks.com...

Originally posted by Michelangelo

My first question is, when you do this, can you really go into past and future events and see what unfolds? If this is really possible, I would like to know what actual projectors have seen in regards to 2012 and whatnot. Also, if you can go into the future, wouldn't it be possible to find the winning lotto numbers and be a megamillionaire?

I have not gone to the past/future through astral projection, but it may be possible, I do have another way of viewing the future that is one of the reasons why I never tried the astral method.

For me I can only see my own future and a few months in advance at most. So I don't know about 2012, and the same applies to the lottery question, I can only see my (including my business and immediate family) future so unless I was already going to be a mega millionaire, it wont do me any good.

Now for some advice, mostly I can't change the future if I have seen something bad is to happen and I want to change it.

There are no words to describe the feeling that you get when you know that tragedy is about to happen and you have no power to change it. Please keep this in mind if you do try seeing the future.

Originally posted by Michelangelo
Another question I have, is if while projecting is it possible to enter somebody's dream and mess with them? I wouldn't want to do anything bad, just be like, "hey man, you want to go see what outer space looks like."

I don't think that is possible, however you can drag them out of their body giving them an AP as well. This works better (or maybe only) with a willing person. Me and my friend do this to each other to increase the number of times we have AP.

If you want to enter dreams, read about shared dreaming. I really don't know how shared dreaming would or could work seeing as the dream world isn't real, but then maybe its real in some crazy twisty way. I have read enough to say that it does sound possible.

Originally posted by Michelangelo
Also, since within the astral realm you can do anything, couldn't people find missing children and even Bin Laden? If this stuff is real, why haven't people been doing this sort of thing?

Your assumption that one can do "anything" in astral releam is incorrect. One can do anything in a Lucid Dream, but the problem is that an LD is not real, as it is a dream.

In an AP one is really limited as to what one can do. basically the only advantage over waking life is sharper senses and ability to travel "anywhere". One could use those advantages to find missing children and whatnot, but they will still need an idea of where to look.

Originally posted by Michelangelo
My last question is, what is the answer to LIFE. Was it a single God, were there multiple Gods like the Greeks and many other groups believed in, is the ancient astronaut theory right, or did we all just develop from a primordial soup?

My answer to this is that there are both single and multiple Gods.

I try to summarize it in the way a very large sole proprietor business would operate.
The owner would equate to God, the CEO level staff to the next level Gods. The word of the owner/God is rule, but often he would hold meetings with other CEO level staff to decide what to do.

The branch managers, department managers, sales managers and other managers would be the deities, and the last level of employees would be the physical manifestation, you, me , animals, plants, whatever.

This falls short of what I am trying to convey. Another explanation I have heard that tries to explain the same thing equates it to the electrical wiring in a typical house.

The main switch is God, all other switches are semigods, dieties, and the appliances, are the people, and all other stuff.

In my opinion God is not one thing, it is "everything". If you call the universe or the multiverse God, you can start to get an idea of what I am trying to convey.

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Would you mind pulling me out of my body?

I'd be a little apprehensive about it, but as long as someone were there with me, I'd be alright. I just don't want to do it myself, and once I get out of my body there's a boogyman standing in the corner of the room.

reply to post by starwarsisreal

No your body cannot be stolen, you are always attached to your body, this attachment is what many see as a silver cord. No that cord can't be cut.

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No that cannot happen, you can always get back, getting back is also a lets say "feature" of the silver cord.

To quell peoples fears, heres a little fact. Just like everyone dreams but not everyone remembers their dream, everyone astral projects but not everyone remembers it.

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Have you ever been possessed by a daemon? Have you seen anyone possessed by a daemon? How do you know that this is likely or even possible?
It is not possible to get possessed by doing an AP.

reply to post by Michelangelo

I could but there are a couple of problems, the main one being that we would both need to be asleep at the same time. That is a problem as we are in different time zones. You may have better luck finding someone on an obe/ap/ ld forum.
The second would be that I would need a map of your place, I haven't been able to get teleportation to work in AP.

Most people tend to think something begins small and then becoming more complex overtime. We usually appoint a beginning and an end, just as there is a moment in time when a day ends and a new day begins.

Now there's a moment in time when 2 cells come together to form new life. Ofcourse those 2 cells already existed, one from birth (female) and the other was probably formed the other day (male). Trace that back to the primordial soup and it's the same idea, a meteorite carrying stuff from some other place hit Earth and life emerged. Where did it come from? Maybe there are billions of meteorites all leftovers from previous worlds (just as this earth will end someday and become absorbed by the sun which would crumble at some point producing the same meteorites carrying remnants of life) just floating about in space, just as males have billions of cells but only 1 makes it to the female cell. Those previous worlds might have emerged from a big bang just as our world came to be, and so on for all time.

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I am kind of busy right now, but I will take this moment to share something with you real quick.

Regarding the part about "visiting" someone. Funny you bring that up.

There was this one time in particular I had a very lucid dream/astral projection where I hung out with a dear friend of mine I hadn't seen in months.

A day or two later in real life, said friend calls me and she says, "Hey I was thinking of you yesterday."

This kind of stuff happens to me all the time, where I will either think about or dream of someone, and then they find a way back into my life.

Will add more to this thread later k?

Gotta go for now.

I recently posted a thread here that completely lays out the truth about what astral projection actually is, but hey, enjoy yourself with all this whatever-the-hell-these-people-think-they're-experiencing. No one "goes" anywhere. When it actually occurs, it's a simple shift of the conscious awareness' point of perspective, and nothing more. The rest is the wonder of the human Intellect and its genius-level capacity for persuasive delusion.

Sure, it's not a popular thing to post on this board, that you really can't go flying around into the future or into the past or into other people's dreams by leaving your body while it's sitting there waiting up for you, but it's the truth and there's nothing I can do about what's true.

Originally posted by NorEaster
I recently posted a thread here that completely lays out the truth about what astral projection actually is, but hey, enjoy yourself with all this whatever-the-hell-these-people-think-they're-experiencing. No one "goes" anywhere. When it actually occurs, it's a simple shift of the conscious awareness' point of perspective, and nothing more. The rest is the wonder of the human Intellect and its genius-level capacity for persuasive delusion.

Sure, it's not a popular thing to post on this board, that you really can't go flying around into the future or into the past or into other people's dreams by leaving your body while it's sitting there waiting up for you, but it's the truth and there's nothing I can do about what's true.

The Truth? Yes there is a shift of awareness into another perspective.. but this does not limit the perspective to any place or time, nor retain it solely within the physical dimensions of the body.

Can it be said to be a "persuasive delusion" when one gains detailed information from an external source that can be verified by other people present at the external source?

The lack of popularity for the Theory you offered is mainly because well seasoned long term Experiencers know without hesitation what they experience outside of the limited, mundane human theatre is a bigger picture reality that Science as yet in it's Infancy cannot objectify nor measure.

Those who have been aware in the subtle energy body we call the Astral Body and who have observed their physical know the difference between which state of awareness one is at the time. The body appears like a slightly wet grey clay and re-entry into it while aware is an extremely uncomfortable experience.

My first aware experience occured when I was 7 years old. I was able to inform my parents of details in the physical world that in my bodily awareness I simply could not know had occured. The theory you offer cannot explain that aspect of it with any degree of surety.

in the neutral zone which is when you do a astral projection, there is no time. Your soul is within the speed of light, within realities, within dimensions. no time, so timezone doesn't really matter.

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You are right. You don't go anywhere (Your Body), but your soul/spirit does. What do you think you are? You are pure conciousness, nothing more. Do you really believe what your 5 senses tells you? They are just interpreting electrical signals turning it into things your physical brain can understand. Ask yourself this question? Are you really aware? or you just accept what your 5 senses tells you?

I did astral projections.... I know how it is like... you feel connected with all... God (Universal conciousness) is a part of you. All the little conciousness on earth (humans) are connected together creating that "god"

do not talk about something you don't really know, or you read somewhere. Ex. I know math, i went to math school, i have 4 degrees and whatever... does that really matter? or just fill your ego? meaning, i know my stuff, i know how it works, im better then you cause i went to college... lol this is an example by the way. let go your ego.. let it go.. don't judge... judge yourself... believe in yourself...

When you do a true astral projectioin into the 4th dimension, you will understand that your body is just a vessal, a vehicule created by light and nothing more. The 3d dimension is just a way for your soul to get experience to get to the next level of conciousness.

A big science law... No things can be lost, no things can be created. Do you think you die when your body dies? Do you really know ? I do, cause i did die, i know what i saw, what i felt in my soul... i saw the light.. i felt connected to everything, to everyone, to all by staying at the same place.. So don't judge... don't say you know something cause you read it, or learned it somewhere, because those people you read/learned from they are probably in the same boat as you.... They don't know the truth....

one step to start.... Believe in the light which is you... which is part of the universal conciousness.

Namaste
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