2012, are we bringing it on ourselves? Are we able to change it with a little positive thinking?...

I have this feeling that all of this talk about 2012 may in fact bring it to us. So many people in my daily life, speak, mention or joke about 2012. Its almost become more of a reality for us than a conspiracy or just being paranoid. I know most people don't feel that us humans are connected as a whole. If you were on the moon, looking back at Earth, would you see billions of people and all sorts of life forms? or would u see the planet earth. We all exist within this globe. So just like the weather, and seasons, i believe us humans are connected on a spiritual level... as a whole.

If a high enough percentage of all the people on earth have this "idea" of 2012 in their minds, then can that create our future, or at least steer us towards the disasters. For instance if you've ever waited tables before, or just tried to carry a cup full of anything. You seem to not spill when you don't stare at the cup. If you do, you tend to spill more. On the other hand, when you break traction on ice, you have to steer into the curve to straighted the car up. So there are a few ways to look at this but the way people are being programmed into believing a skewed version of the truth. So if we don't have all the proper information, say we can't tell how full the cup is, or where we have to steer the car, we're going to spill or crash. So regardless of which opinions you have about it, not having all the information would still leave you in a worse spot than being able to make an accurate decision with less percentage of failure.

With 2012 coming into all of our conscience minds, having Hollywood movies made time after time about the world ending or aliens coming to our planet... we're basing our future on images and sounds that are not real. If you had been in any type of real crazy disaster, then you would have something to base 2012 on... but really, how many people have gone through any of the scenes in the movies we've seen for all these years. Just the idea of fear of any kind, pushed into our minds and when we make decisions about the future, we're using a skewed image of the future... or what it looks like to have aliens pick you up in a ship and chew you up or contain you. So just these very ideas being the first things into people's minds, causes false concepts about the future and 2012. If aliens are coming in Nibiru, all of the visuals we've seen have shown that aliens are not good. They need Earth, and they want to enslave humans or use them for their genetics. Even ET shows you that having an alien friend gets you into a whole lot of trouble.

Star Trek and Star wars are the most popular videos and images on the planet. We seem to like the idea of space travel and different beings and lazers, even telepathy and psychic powers. Why the draw to these concepts that are completely ignored in the publics eyes. You can have people stand in line for days to see a 2 hour movie, but you couldn't talk to someone for five minutes about life on other planets, psychic powers, reading peoples thoughts or even the concept of a energy that is all around us. Makes no sense. Even with the Death Star, being a intergalactic space station and having weapons that can destroy a planet. Speaking back on the original statements, If there was a planet like Nibiru, or a space station or even another planet that was in our orbit, how would the world react to it. Even it was here to help us and wasn't a threat. Could people understand that what they saw in the movies and on television are not real and that they have the potential to make uninformed decisions. People would pack the freeways and riot, not because that sounds like the best thing to do, but thats what people have seen and have been programmed to think is a real option of how to act.

Does humanity have any kind of thoughts of the future that are good, positive, or peaceful? Do we as humans have the power to all think more about a future that we exist in? I don't feel that everyone needs to believe fully in a perfect wonderful future, but if we're going to spend all this time thinking about all the horrible things that could happen, and at least put some good thoughts in there? I believe we may be creating the future we don't want, just because we spend a higher percentage thinking about the negatives instead of positives. If you've seen the movie PUSH, they have a statement about how seeing the future can change it. Same thing with the back to the future movies... it seems to be general knowledge that knowing about the future can change it. Knowing about 2012 can change it. And it doesn't seem to be for the good. We're all beaten down more and more as time goes on and what person feels great every day and confident that 2012 isn't coming and that even if it does, that we can all come together and get through it the best way we can...


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I don't know but apparently if we find all the 13 real Crystal Skulls, then maybe something positive will happen. There was a documentary on them and at the end, it said that when the 13 skulls "meet" with each other, it's mysterious powers would stop something happening, especially in 2012. The Mayans believe these skulls have mysterious powers yet to be unlocked.

www.crystalskulls.com...

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Thats a good point... I'll check that out. Thanks for the comment

We as humans have always been conditioned to believe the end of the world will happen in our lifetime. We can see this dating back to ancient history in tombs, pyramids, ancient writings, religion etc....
I do believe that as a whole we do have an effect on whether or not the end of the world comes upon us sooner rather than later. The big difference b/w humanity in the present and humanity in the past, is that now we have the ability to end the world ourselves. This changes the odds big time, now it only takes the press of a button to set off a international shootout.
Through our greater understanding of the Earth, climate, and our effects on it we can make changes for the better. Unfortunately, I believe we are late to the party. Even if we had the technology to fix the inevitable, I don't think we would. At the end of the day it all about dollars and cents, and we all know who controls that.

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I read many differnt articles which reveal how strong our subconscious mind is, how deeply impacting our minds thoughts are on our very lives and the lives of others. If we think a specific thought long enough it will manifest. What is the most freightening to me is, as a human whole we have different minds which create different ideas as to exactly what will happen in 2012. We believe it will be a Comet, A solar blast from the sun, global warming, earthquakes, water and food shortages, the list goes on as to what we think will happen, put all this consciousness into a energy and think what could happen in 2012 if we dont change our minds....peace

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S&F because to me personally this is a very deep thread which detail factual outcomes.

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Imagine if cows were conscious of their own existence in the way we are.
Which farm would have an easier time keeping their cows in line and on the way to slaughter?
The farm which tells the cows outright that they are only here as food for the humans and that they will be fattened up and killed for food?
Or the farm that tells the cows that evil beings exist beyond the fence, that the only way the cows can guarantee their own safety and the safety of their families is to trust and obey the farmers, and that the slaughterhouse is actually an all-inclusive day spa and water park?
either way the cows exist in the same reality, but they would have vastly differing experiences of it.

I am SO happy you started this thread. This is exactly what I`ve been thinking for a while and especially lately, after all that`s been happening.

All these doomsday predictions, the way news is broadcast on TV - as if it were a soap opera. With the only objective of trying to capture more viewers while exaggerating and dramatising all types of news. I even get depressed reading ATS at times.

I believe that our thoughts have an incredible power and that this collective negativity really needs to stop.

In a world whose decision making processes are ran by money, at least as regards policies enacted from the top of the pyramid, those who hold the vast of majority of material wealth will try and implement THIER will over the will of folks of lesser material means. Nothing really new here, nothing that has to do with a 'vast conspiracy' as such other than the carrying out of simple social darwinism but now being implemented by a whole host of stealth 'weapons' and sohpisticated psyop strategies.

If one wants to see what the future will hold on a lare scale one simply has to get into the minds of the string pullers themselves and start to understand their thinking. When we see these elitist cliques who's thinking has been rooted historically in eugenics minded approaches and using war and disease and maniplulation and force to beat the world down into submission, we can well see the direction the future is going to take and come to better understand many of the manipulations going on now cloaked in plausible deniability. Too, we can each visualize our own role and find the needed routes we will each need to take to be able to function in this newly enhanced paradigm.

The only wild card I see is that there does appear to be another new 'enlightenment' taking hold, many many of the world's citizens do appear to be waking up as to what once was the 'hidden' hand that worked from the shadows, and fortunately too, many of the people trapped in the 'middle' reaches of the process seem to be having second thoughts as to the sanity of those a couple of rungs above them on the ladder of the power structure. We seem to be having defectors from The Matix who now are willing to disent and expose the Puppetmasters black arts, a sort of "War in The Heavens" if you will, among the big players, and people are learning how to ask the right questions and not just download the brainwashing from those paid to keep the herd dumbed down and in the dark.

I truly believe our thoughts are driving are reality right now and believe you are right we can think ourselves out of current events.I think this to be very hard with the media conspiracy against us.I new here this link is a great article
and a must read complimenting your theory.



[url=http://www.mindheartmedia.com/node/153

To give answer to your thread title only.

Its no question. I am 100%certain reality is a product of the mind.

Great Topic O.P...
I was actually thinking about this earlier today before reading your thread.
Quite litterally that we are shaping our future without even knowing it...
I have made it clear to my partner in the past couple of days that negativity is a bad thing and can destroy .
It spreads like a contagious disease ... from person to person... group to group.
However, this is if you allow it and dont prevent it spreading to start off.
I beleve we can carve our own future... and that these disaster movies are most definetly programming us
into thinking a certain way... but for the good of what ?? Hhhmmmmmm??
Could thought control also be linked with the 11:11 symbolisms ??
Pepare peoples minds (sub)consciously and this could create such a large amount of (sub)conscious energy that the world will tip the scales of positivity/negativity more into darkness(bad) rather than light(good).
Like references made by the O.P, .... similar process can happen on a motorbike also.....
....keep looking at the kerb.... and sure as hell .... You'll more than likely be crashing soon enough!
Hope this post isnt too far fetched and people can understand where i am coming from.
Thanks for reading _javascript:icon('')

Originally posted by bluntheaded
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Thats a good point... I'll check that out. Thanks for the comment

You are most welcome, kind sir.

Originally posted by Skate
I don't know but apparently if we find all the 13 real Crystal Skulls, then maybe something positive will happen. There was a documentary on them and at the end, it said that when the 13 skulls "meet" with each other, it's mysterious powers would stop something happening, especially in 2012. The Mayans believe these skulls have mysterious powers yet to be unlocked.

www.crystalskulls.com...

Did you hear there was another one found recently, somewhere in london I think, I only heard a brief amount of information because I was laving and didnt watch the entire segmant on it. But if it is true I believe that would make it number 5 or 6 ? and it is said in the end times is when most will be discovered.

Thank you to everyone for your positive comments

yes and no, the humans are definitely destroying the world but at the same time the mother nature is always changing.