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Originally posted by Varemia
Actually, it wasn't even that. The taxes that we had weren't that bad, but what the founding fathers were upset with was that the people paying them had no say in their institution.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Wrong.
We are not Egypt, and what did they gain? Really? They got rid of a military dictator and .............................the military is running things. Yea for them. Thats what happens when a bunch of half baked morons goes off. Nothing. And what will they end up with? A fake democracy just like ours. Woohoo.
Throwing a revolution, peaceful or otherwise, is not going to change the fundamental problem, which is lazy pleasure seeking citizens not holding up their end of the political bargain.
All you would end up doing is giving the enemies of this nation, the corporations and other wealthy entities, the excuse they needed to seize control of our military and suspend our Constitution.
So, HELL NO we dont need an uprising here. It just digusts me that all you have to do is put something on TV and some bonehead will want to buy it. Including revolution.
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
reply to post by Artorius
I don't think we hear too much about it because of more important topics.....Off the top of my head...JAPAN....WAR IN LYBIA......EARTHQUAKES AROUND THE WORLD......Just to name a few, a little cival war in Africa is not on the top of anyones mind right now....Sorry
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
For how long? For how long would it be the cure for lazy pleasure seeking Americans?
The uprisings in the Mid East arent what they appear to be. Dont be bedazzled by the press. Look at the FACTS. Which are that Egypt exchanged one military backed dictatorship for another. And when they get their "democracy" it will be no different than the one we have now. Two corporatist puppets to choose from.
Originally posted by Skerrako
reply to post by DuceizBack
You guys aren't going to do nothing.
I bet half of you haven't even been outside in the last 24 hours.
You got me there......although I lost both my legs in Iraq so I have a pretty good excuse.
You never know who is on these boards, and don't think that U.S. citizens will do nothing forever
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
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Last month, Judge José A. Cabranes of the Manhattan-based federal Second Circuit Court of Appeals issued a judicial opinion that sent international lawyers, human rights advocates and African environmental activists reeling. Cabranes ruled that transnational corporations who participate in gross human rights abuses cannot be held responsible for torture, genocide, war crimes and the like because, as corporations, their activities fall outside the jurisdiction of international law. The Pan-African Newswire described the court’s opinion as a corporate licence to kill. Judge Pierre Leval, also of the Second Circuit, issued a dissenting opinion describing the Cabranes ruling as an unprecedented ‘blow to the efforts of international law to protect human rights’.
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There is the possibility of a (relatively) peaceful revolution, if enough people demanded it and were determined enough to see it through. Look at what just happened in Egypt.
Doing nothing, and wanting to do nothing, when there are obviously some problems here, is even more cowardly imo. The whole reason the US even exists is because a lot of people with more backbone than most today were pissed off about excessive taxes. Imagine that.
Originally posted by whatukno
Demanded what kind of revolution though? From what I see from the political right (Not the leadership, but those whos political leanings are on the right) is that they want to take back this country from brown people.
It wasn't excessive tax that they were protesting against, it was the taxation without representation. The problem today is that the TEA Party wants the super rich like the Koch brothers to pay NO taxes whatsoever and they think this is sound fiscal policy
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Best case scenario, we need to outlaw the corporate form entirely. No human should be allowed to profit with no personal liability from the actions of a corporation. Especially when said corporations are making loopholes in the law for themselves saying they cannot be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.