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Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by tracehd1
I dont trust Jesse "the body" Ventura anymore than i trust Alex Jones.
Some of you people are ridiculously naive. Obviously, the result of ignorance of how the world really works.
Simply reading philosophical texts like Nietzsche, Spinoza, Machiavelli, Hobbes, Bacon, or for that matter, lookng up the religion Alex Jones' prodigious Texan family upholds (he claims his family were one of the original founders of Texas) Calvinism, will graduate you to a more sophisticated understanding of the world.
People never want to understand that. It is nothing else but cognitive dissonance to want to trust Jesse Ventura. Frankly, a Former Navy seal, radical leftist wrestler, governor of minnisota, and now conspiracy 'exposer' should be enough to indicate that this guy is simply an opportunist.
Philosophy is where the answer lies. Because i have bothered to study philosophy: both religious and secular, i now understand that unfortunately, appearances are designed to be decieving.
The people in power DO NOT have a conentional, judeo-christian system of morality. Good, is not always what it appears on the surface, and same with evil. lying, can serve a good end, and therefore justify the act of lying.
I have no definitive proof that Jesse Ventura is lying, but nonenthless i assume he is. I base this assumpion on the reality of the gnostic/pagan religious disposition of the establishment.
Governments arent interested in being just, but as Leo Strauss explains, a "judicious combination of justice and injustice". They are naturalists. Just as nature is both good and evil, and likewise man, so to will his government be good and evil. Evil, for creating "new modes and orders", and good for maintaining those orders.
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
reply to post by GlennCanady
Starred and Flagged Thanks.
While I do NOT buy any of the 911 conspiracies, I know darned well that Jesse V sure as heck has a lot of people sweating about most of his subject matter.
Here's some food for thought: by coming out so publicly with a cable series and now a book, Jesse isn't only trying to make a buck, he's purchasing "accident" insurance.
Originally posted by DaMod
You know what the best part about the fact that it was Jesse Ventura here and not anyone else?
It's the fact that it does not come from some basement conspiracy theorist. This man was a Mayor.. This man was governor (whom btw the people of Minnesota loved and would have re-elected him in a heartbeat had he sought a second term).. This man is ex special forces in the US military...
A good face to represent the rest of us IMO
Originally posted by Alienmojo
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
reply to post by GlennCanady
Starred and Flagged Thanks.
While I do NOT buy any of the 911 conspiracies, I know darned well that Jesse V sure as heck has a lot of people sweating about most of his subject matter.
Here's some food for thought: by coming out so publicly with a cable series and now a book, Jesse isn't only trying to make a buck, he's purchasing "accident" insurance.
While what you say may be true, I just hope it doesn't hurt his chances for office if he decides to run again. You know how talking about this stuff can make people look like nuts. My wife and I are from Minnesota and I can tell you that while not everyone there agreed with everything he did as Govenor... he sure was respected and liked.