"Who The Hell Do You Think You Are?" Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (

Originally posted by zcflint05
reply to post by mayabong

 

I'm not going to argue with your logic; but the simple fact is that we can't be everywhere at once and Gaddafi has done quite a bit more in terms of murdering his own people than the Bahrain government has (although they have done some despicable things as well). We should give credit to our own government for at least attempting to save some lives in this case--if you asked a Libyan what they think about this situation I'm pretty sure they would be happy that the US is intervening on their behalf to prevent further deaths.

Ask which Libyan? Are you saying all Libyans are against Gadaffi? Do you think Oil has anything to do with it? doesn't Europe get alot of its oil from Libya? Do you think they may actually be doing this so that the supply doesn't get disrupted. Is this why France is all gung ho?

As Farrahkahn said, I have a very hard time believing that America, who has killed millions "liberating" iraq and afghanistan and turns a blind eye to gaza. Is actually doing this for humanitarian purposes. Of course all wars need a justification to the masses of doing good and I can see it works. Even on this site.

I'm not taking up for Gadaffi I really honestly don't know anything about him. I know what the media says, but then there is another side that you don't hear.

Personally I have questions about Farrakhan but he's definitely on point with his assessment of the attacking of Libya.

Originally posted by zcflint05
reply to post by mayabong

 

I'm not going to argue with your logic; but the simple fact is that we can't be everywhere at once and Gaddafi has done quite a bit more in terms of murdering his own people than the Bahrain government has (although they have done some despicable things as well). We should give credit to our own government for at least attempting to save some lives in this case--if you asked a Libyan what they think about this situation I'm pretty sure they would be happy that the US is intervening on their behalf to prevent further deaths.

That's the point the US can't be everywhere policing so the question arises why are they there when there are other areas that have been in conflict longer than Libya facing worse conditions? Gaddafi (Qaddafi) has not done no more or less than others in his position around this planet, something is amiss here.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


IG, the issue with LF is that he speaks only to one particular captive office. A small demographic. So he could speak truths all day long, and has little affect in spreading the truth amongst the American psyche. The international western centered energy cabal ( this is a sampling of how they work) www.fool.com... have minimized such truths. Look at what they did in attempting to destroy Bill Moyers to name just one example after he aired this vid back in 1987.



They have been on a crusade to wreck his rep for nearly 25 years now.

Obviously there is a destabilization operation underway by western intelligence to destabilizing the Middle East for profit gain. The profit gain in this case is made through driving up oil futures which is used as a price barometer in price negotiations between producers and wholesalers. The close of last price insurance contract which is what is traded on the N.Y. Mercantile Exchange is used as a price floor for new delivery contracts. That's how it works. They need excuses to drive up bidding on the price insurances. A destabilized Middle East is the perfect excuse. And they sell the excuse in the name of "democracy."

I think ATS Live should interview en.wikipedia.org... he goes by Mike. He tells it how it is.

There is a protection racket, and it works like this

The West uses defense assets, intel etc. to keep the leaderships of friendly oil countries in power. What is friendly? Trading oil in USD, deposits of petrodollars in the 12 FED member banks and purchase of T-Bills. Same thing regarding Britain and it's government financing and backing the Pound. Central Europe and the Euro? MIA Where are all the countries of central and eastern Europe in taking a role in this latest Middle East unrest? Take a close look at these Middle East countries in identifying what they are trading their oil in on the open market. Is it USDs, Pounds, or Euros? That will answer all.

Who pays for most of our military? The very people who are actually the ones protected by it. Big Oil. However they don't just give their money away. They merely loan it so to maintain overall ownership of the system which includes, private banking, major media financing TW, NC, GE, that controls elections, the American psyche and thus our government which uses assets to maintain them in power. They merely take their petro profits and fund banking and the government through loans. In the end they own it all perpetually with petrodollars.

PS

To be clear Moe from Planet Mars Daffy is a bad dude, and should have been gone along time ago. However I still feel waiting these thugs out is the moral thing to do, and keeping oil prices low for the common good should be paramount to all other concerns. Promoting unrest and war in the Middle East only serves the interests of oil producers and Cap and Trade advocates who want to capitalize on carbon credits eventually along with those who benefit off green energy government grants and tax breaks. Wall Street. Not you and I on Main Street.

www.guardian.co.uk...

I guess "asking" him to step down is off the table.

Maybe the Reverend Jeremiah Wright will call him out, too.
Nah.....they are (were) too close.

things are already underway, the united arab league(i think they are called)announced today they are not pleased with the bombing and only wanted a no-fly zone and are convening to condemn the U.N.'s actions. where do you think this will lead? especially with a vocal russia, turkey, india an china against this whole campaign. shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what is coming.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Ironic coming from Farrakhan. I guess he no longer believes that Obama is the Messiah

Originally posted by letscit
things are already underway, the united arab league(i think they are called)announced today they are not pleased with the bombing and only wanted a no-fly zone and are convening to condemn the U.N.'s actions. where do you think this will lead? especially with a vocal russia, turkey, india an china against this whole campaign. shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what is coming.

You're spot on as always, letscit! Love reading your real world insights on these boards. You're a true free thinker with great intellect it seems based on reading your posts here.

Originally posted by smashenator
Obama is a brown useless chocolate coloured Moron..
Leave Libya to sort themselves out, if it was true that America cared about the deaths of civilians! Then why are they not helping the poor starving people of the world?

What do Austrailians do to help the world, besides criticize?

Originally posted by letscit
things are already underway, the united arab league(i think they are called)announced today they are not pleased with the bombing and only wanted a no-fly zone and are convening to condemn the U.N.'s actions. where do you think this will lead? especially with a vocal russia, turkey, india an china against this whole campaign. shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what is coming.

WW3!

Originally posted by thorazineshuffle

Originally posted by letscit
things are already underway, the united arab league(i think they are called)announced today they are not pleased with the bombing and only wanted a no-fly zone and are convening to condemn the U.N.'s actions. where do you think this will lead? especially with a vocal russia, turkey, india an china against this whole campaign. shouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what is coming.

WW3!

I'm not advocating this, and it would be a tragedy if it happened, but by all rights Russia and China have the moral right now to send ICBMs and sub launched short range missiles into Britain and French government administrative buildings and head of state residences.

We need to pull out of this like now, and let Britain and France twist in the wind letting Russia and China take care of business.

What a speech.....S+F.
I think he speaks for the majority of people in the western world.

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Farrakhan, I will tell you WHO President Obama is for calling the beast to step down.

He was elected by a majority vote of the American People, of the mightiest nation on Earth. He too knows and is aware of what is going on in the world. Should he turn a blind eye, with his power entrusted to him by a nation, with conscience, to the mass murders being conducted right in front of our eyes by the Beasts, that you are so ready to use your own tongue to wipe the arse of the beast and ignore the sufferings and pleadings of millions around the world for help?

Unlike the few of you sh%t loving dirty low level scums, just like the beasts puppets states in Africa whom depends on the crumbs off the beast's table, there are many other leaders around the world who will not turn a blind eye and thus an NFZ to let the courageous Libyan fight for their freedom.

And it will not stop with just Libya. Other dictators beware, for even Russia and China had to swallow that realities and start to seriously look into the welfare of its masses in the wake of Humanity waking up finally.

Be glad President Obama is only asking him to step down, and not asking for his throat to account for the murders of his own people, so that he may face a fair trial or justice from his own people, unlike you with your fecies loving tongue attempting to whitewash, appease and ignore his horrific crimes against humanity.

You had finally revealed what a real scum you truly are and which side of humanity you stand.

Mercy upon you.

dude take a chill pill.

you claim to be a seeker of truth

i've been sharing the following links on all the Libya related threads 'cause a lot of people have been drinking the kool-aid on this one

Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi www.abovetopsecret.com...


Exclusive: Benghazi Explosion – Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected www.abovetopsecret.com...

Tactical BS more like it, it was the BS meter that actually exploded , later shown to be the bombing of a local arms depot/cache

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler The headline ought to read Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected by Donald Duck. The article seems to be making a case for that any explosion anywhere that either hurts or offends the sensibilities of Americans is a tactical nuke! The article also suggests the Oklahoma Bombing was a tactical nuclear device! Seems like yet another sensationalized accusation of the kind that gave us WMD in Iraq. Just a lot of unsubstantiated gibberish designed to enflame and anger people and get people here thinking about paying for another war for oil. How many times are the American people going to get fooled by the same old song and dance, wrap it in a flag, and have God bless it, and presto whamo American bombs start snuffing out 'collateral damage' everywhere.

Benghazi's importance to Libya and possibly the World:
also explains why Qaddafi has come down really harsh on these "rebels"

While many countries in the Middle East and North Africa bicker over water rights, Libya has tapped into an aquifer of 'fossil water' to change its topography – turning sand into soil. The 26-year, $20 billion project is nearly finished. …The Great Man-Made River, which is leader Muammar Qaddafi's ambitious answer to the country’s water problems, irrigates Libya’s large desert farms. The 2,333-mile network of pipes ferry water from four major underground aquifers in southern Libya to the northern population centers. Wells punctuate the water’s path, allowing farmers to utilize the water network in their fields. ... “Water is more precious for us than oil. ... Water here in Libya, it’s life.”

after all why would Qaddafi want to damage or destroy a 26-year, $20+ billion project that he considers his life's work?

Virtually unknown in the West: Libya's water resources. The real reason for toppling Quadaffi? www.abovetopsecret.com...


Libya: British plans to strip Gaddafi of oil revenue www.abovetopsecret.com...

Libya False Flag -part 1: Reuters Hoax EXPOSED www.abovetopsecret.com...
truthfrequencynews.com...
World Cheers as the CIA Plunges Libya Into Chaos www.informationclearinghouse.info...

How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment.

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

Like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. In response to this, Kadaffi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people. However, unlike the article claims, Kadaffi is not the president of Libya. In fact he holds no official position in the government. This is the big mistake that people make. They claim that Kadaffi rules over Libya when in fact he doesn't, his position is more or less ceremonial. He should be compared to a founding father.

The true leader of Libya is an indirectly elected prime-minister. The current prime-minister is
Baghdadi Mahmudi. Calling Khadaffi the leader of Libya is comparable to calling Akihito the leader of Japan. Contrary to what your media is sketching, opinions in Libya vary. Some people support Gadaffi but want Mahmudi out. Others want both out. Many just want to live their life in peace. However, effort is taken to sketch the appearance of a popular revolt against the supposed leader of Libya, Gadaffi, when in fact he is just the architect of Libya's current political system, a mixture of pan-Arabism, socialism, and Islamic government.

Are the protesters in Libya comparable to the protesters in Egypt and Tunisia? Not at all. The governments reaction is more violent, and obviously excessive violence is being used. However let us look for a moment at the actions of the protesters. The building of the the general people's congress, the parliament of Libya, was put on fire by angry protestors. This is comparable to protesters putting the United States Capitol on fire. Do you think that for even a moment the US government would sit idly by as protesters put the US capitol on fire?


Great Britain funded an Al Qaeda cell in Libya, in an attempt to assassinate Gadaffi. The main opposition group in Libya now is the National Front for the Salvation of Libya. This opposition group is being funded by Saudi Arabia, the CIA, and French Intelligence. This group unified itself with other opposition groups, to become the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition. It was this organization that called for the "Day of Rage" that plunged Libya into chaos on February 17 of this year.

It did this in Benghazi, a conservative city that has always been opposed to Gadaffi's rule. It should be noted that the National Front for the Salvation of Libya is well armed. In 1996 the group tried to unleash a revolution in the eastern part of Libya before. It used the Libyan National Army, the armed division of the NFSL to begin this failed uprising.

Why is the United States so opposed to Gadaffi? He is the main threat to US hegemony in Africa, because he attempts to unite the continent against the United States. This concept is called the United States of Africa. In fact, Gadaffi holds all sorts of ideas that are contrary to US interests. The man blames the United States government for the creation of HIV. He claims that Israel is behind the assasination of Martin Luther King and president John. F. Kennedy. He says that the 9/11 hijackers were trained in the US. He also urged Libyans to donate blood to Americans after 9/11. Khadaffi is also the last of a generation of moderate socialist pan-Arab revolutionaries that is still in power, after Nasser and Hussein have been eliminated, and Syria has aligned itself with Iran.The United States and Israel however have no interest in a strong Arab world. In fact it seems that elementary to the plan is bringing Libya to its knees through chaos and anarchy. In late 2010, the United Kingdom was still propping up the Libyan government through lucrative arms sales. Nothing is a better guarantee to destroy Libya than a bloody civil war. The tribal system that is still strong in Libya is useful to exploit to generate such a war since Libya has historically been divided into various tribal groups.

This is also why the Libyan government responds by importing mercenaries. Tribal allegiances go before allegiance to the government, especially in Benghazi, and thus the central government has no control over the eastern part of the country anymore. The alternative to mercenaries is a conflict between the various ethnic groups. Gadaffi has tried for 41 years to make the country more homogeneous, but opposition groups funded by outside forced will take little more than a few days to put the country back into the 19th century, before the region was conquered and unified by Europeans. The violence is indeed excessive, but everyone seems to forget that the situation is not the same as in Tunis and Egypt. Tribal ties play a far greater role, and thus the conflict will unfortunately be bloodier.

Kissinger plan to transform North Africa and Middle East into Turkmenistan forum.prisonplanet.com...
depopulation_linked_merck_pharma_announces_africa_plan www.infowars.com...

www.schillerinstitute.org...
wlym.com...

where's the international coalition to stop the greatest threat facing 21st century humanity,
Terrorist #1
who has declared himself judge,jury and executioner [by proxy of course] of anybody he feels like,
just because:
Barack Hussein Obama ?

hmmm?

continue seeking some day you'll find it

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

 

Benghazi's importance to Libya and possibly the World:
also explains why Qaddafi has come down really harsh on these "rebels"


hmmm?

continue seeking some day you'll find it

Okay, I'll ask, "Why was the western corporate petrodollar financed MSM claiming for weeks now that Moe Mars 'dafi was killing unarmed innocent civilians. Never producing once any hard evidence of such acts. Now the reports are "rebals." Armed militia acting out to overthrow the government of Libya.

I'm pretty sure if Armed militia acted out in such a way in a western first world country they would be put down any rebellion in the same manner as the Libyan Government is currently.

So what this all opens up in the future is if Russian and Chinese intel agencies seed rebellions in western first world countries like the west has in the Middle East they then will have the right to step in at some point and help rebel forces the same way in which France Britain and the United States are in the Libyan conflict in the name of saving lives.

"What comes around goes around."


"What is good for the goose is good for the gander."


"Karma"

I could go on and on.

This is really bad getting involved with the French and British in these Libyan attracts. Now either England or France has hit the residence of -dafi. That's the same as what happened on 9/11. It violates UN resolution 1973. Whoever fired that missile is now a terrorist state. Russia and China have every right now to declare war on the country who fired that missile.

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yup, what was done to saddam could easily happen 10-20yrs down the road to barry or george or billary alike

on topic: wasn't it one of those high level nazis who said that line about the winners getting to write the history books? if a nazi can say a truth why can't Farrakhan?

hey spell check had the proper spelling!

Originally posted by thorazineshuffle

Originally posted by smashenator
Obama is a brown useless chocolate coloured Moron..
Leave Libya to sort themselves out, if it was true that America cared about the deaths of civilians! Then why are they not helping the poor starving people of the world?

What do Austrailians do to help the world, besides criticize?

What does America do besides bomb who they don't like?

I am all for the USA but much more of this and it will get what it has been dishing out and then we will all be very unhappy.

reply to post by Garfee


If Russia and China invade us and round up all the oil men and bankers, the Wall Street crowd, I'm just going to lay back on my couch and watch it unfold on TV from the comfort of my living room.... yawning with a beer and pizza. If I am forced to fight any invading forces by the billionaire crowd through USG mechanisms..... that will turn me immediately into a rebel straight up.


I'm not unique. Fellow Americans I talk to feel the same way. These are mainstream average Americans. We're sick and tired of our defense complex being dictated to by oil men through their owning and controlling the USG by financing its debt and political campaigns to the point our vote don't really count anymore. They use K. Street and the corporate media to maintain their tyrannical control robbing every penny we earn as common citizens. They manipulate energy prices reflected in the price of everything. That's how they make their money, that's how they finance their control, ownership of America.

When I watch that video and he's got his strong arm standing against the wall, what I see is black mafia through and through.
This guy is an instigator of more revolt, and he's repulsive.

This Farrakhan is a man of violent intentions and is also very arrogant, like we don't have enough of those already.