Welfare State: Handouts Make Up One-Third of U.S. Wages

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical


Pay workers what they deserve on a cost of living basis? Isn't that an entitlement, you know, pay them what they are entitled?

If the social security investment is so solid why doesn't EVERYONE invest their private money into the investments the program is making? We'd all be in the black. Yay!!!

Also, we haven't spent it all. We've taken in 13.8 trillion and paid out 11.3 trillion.

It's not going to make it because at some point you are going to pay more people SS then the amount of people that are paying into it. It's a ponzi scheme, nothing more. It would get you and I arrested, but if the government does it it's okay, as long as I get my payment, correct? Hooray hypocrisy!!!

www.ssa.gov...

reply to post by Surfrat


THIS REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. i hate the fact that my parents tax dollars go to people who aren't (for some part) contributing back to society. why don't we stop trying to help these people with money and food stamps when we could be equally successful in quelling the problem at it's origins.

How do you know what percentage is hand-outs and not hand-ups ? Perhaps helping a deserving neighbor or the children of a sick one wasn't part of your up bringing ? When I was a child we picked the extra fruit and veggies from our land that we couldn't use and passed them out at church , to me it wasn't Socialism or looking for brownie points - it was doing what came natural. Keep pointing , you might one day need those words to fill your belly.

reply to post by minnow329


Everybody pays the piper somehow. Even those who "aren't paying" buy products which have sales tax, along with other variable taxes built into the price. Can we cut this myth that only "some" people pay taxes.

Giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme giveme
or
Work work work work work work work work work work work work

What a dilemma

Has anyone here been drafted into military service?
If no; let me tell you what happens.
You can not quit if you want.
If you refuse; you serve your time in jail ie brig.
You have no choice of job; you do what they want you to do.
If you disobey you go to jail
They feed you what they want.
They pay you what they want.
You are totally subservient to their leaders.

This is how Americans will live under the New World Order.

Enjoy freebies while you can

reply to post by GeechQuestInfo


Madoff ran a ponzi scheme. He shopped for people with investable money and fooled them into believing he could provide them with investment opportunities with very high dividends. The more people he lured into his pyramid the more money he had to pay off earlier suckers. This concept also known as a pyramid scheme is played in many different ways all of which play upon the greed and often shame of the mark.

An excellent book detailing the history of conmen around the world is titled Hustlers and Conmen. Each chapter talks about a different huckster and reads very easily. I was entertained as well as educated.

Your grandmother who received SS , if she is like so many people, worked for a salary. SS served as a savings account for her which she began to draw on when she reached a certain age. Some people live longer than others. Hence some receive more then others who have died.

Now into this equation we add the appearance of a pyramidal framework. SS has boo coo bucks in it and it keeps being paid into by people who are still in the work force. You know, I kinda feel silly because you probably already know all this. Anyway, this upon cursory examination does have the appearance of a pyramid with the people on the bottom ,the workers, paying for the people on the top,the retirees.

Now if we are still on the same page, I agree that the logic in the long run for SS is dubious. And here I think I can see your point. But to equate your granny to Bernie Madoff is a stretch ,don't ya think? She is not greedy,is she? I don't know. Maybe she was sitting on a fortune already and didn't need her SS. But like most, she probably needed it to survive at all. But for all I know you may be one of those "throw grandma from a train types. Nah, that couldn't be.

Also I must be honest and say that I took your post at first to just be just another complaint by some one who was just lashing out. Sorry.