Kid catches Alien on Film

reply to post by badw0lf


Sorry I thought that baiting you might cause a reaction. Sorry I will leave you be, now to ask the fella to do the ATS thing to prove to you is good. He has said that his computer is broken so you might have to wait for him to get his computer fixed to upload it. I think that he may have been using someone elses computer lately.

I think if you really did complain to ATS and they haven't found anything sus we can safely bet that nothing sus.

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by ThePolishedKnob
something

Go on youtube and make a NEW video with you in it saying you acknowledge ATS and this thread

Or else this is fake.

I will be dragged thru the hoops by the OP but not by you.

Why must i make a video to satisfy your needs, I will gladly message you on youtube or whatever.

Originally posted by badw0lf

Originally posted by ThePolishedKnob
something

Go on youtube and make a NEW video with you in it saying you acknowledge ATS and this thread

Or else this is fake.

I will be dragged thru the hoops by the OP but not by you.

Interesting thread.
I'm sorry but the above quote seems unnecessarily aggressive, bullying and plain rude.
The degree of personal abuse Alex has been shown is saddening.
I know the chances are this is fake, because it seems too fantastic to be true.
But what if it is real? For me this hasn't been proven either way yet.

It would be a shame to see a thread thrown in the Hoax bin on the basis that aliens apparantly shouldn't use anything resembling laser pointers.

At around 1:26 on the vid is where the "laser" is shone directly into the camera. It shows up white.

reply to post by ThePolishedKnob


If you could do it mate it would soon put to it rest, as well the next doubter and the next.

Yes he is recieving alot of bullying and not many questions. Its awesome that they disappear as well as soon as the kid is on here willing and able to ask questions.

Uploading the original film from mini disc would be a good idea. it's probably as simple as connecting a USB?

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Not sure if usb was around when mini disc's were. I don't know though could be wrong? Does anyone round here know about mini discs?

Originally posted by Slipdig1
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Not sure if usb was around when mini disc's were. I don't know though could be wrong? Does anyone round here know about mini discs?

Would be good to clear this up. Alex said that he was trying out a "new camera with night vision".
There are so many different brands and designs, I wonder if it's possible to find out the details of the camera?

We would need to know the model number/name ect.

Originally posted by Slipdig1
You can't say its a laser pointer and not give evidence. It just doesn't work.

I did give evidence. I showed the parts where you can clearly see the laser dot hitting the floor and the walls. The dot is quite obviously a laser pointer dot.
This is a laser pointer dot:

I only called a boy by it's name. There isn't even any need to prove something that is right there before your eyes.

The burden of proof lies on you and the maker of the video.
Can you somehow prove these dots on the film (the parts where the laser pointer is aimed at) are not laser pointer dots?

Also if it is a laser pointer of sorts(could be some sort of laser) what would that do not to prove aliens?

A laser pointer with no visible beam in such darkness is very weak. VERY weak. Cheap 5$ laser pointer weak.
If aliens ever reached earth, and they possessed laser technology, they would for sure use something stronger than a laser pen in order to shoot at people. What point is there in shooting a laser that is so weak it can't even put a hole through a layer of toilet paper?

Or are you suggesting that these aliens are just having fun with their own laser pointer?

There was a thread on here a few days or a week( I will find it) that announces that we recieved laser technology from Aliens.

Haha, "announces"...
That thread suggests we received laser tech from aliens. And that thread is proving this, how exactly? ...

Many people on ATS would believe or agree with that.

That doesn't help proving it at all.

So if that is the case wouldn't Aliens of course be running around with lasers. I just don't see how even if it is a laser pointer how you think that equates to a debunk.

Yeah, they would be running around with lasers strong enough to atleast harm whatever they are shooting at.

As far as I would be concerned it would be totally logical for an Alien to have some sort of laser. So to me even if it is a laser, that wouldn't make this vid fake.

There's a difference between a laser that is used to shoot at humans, and between a laser pointer which can't do anything and is so weak it doesn't even have a visible beam in the darkness.

Originally posted by Slipdig1
At around 1:26 on the vid is where the "laser" is shone directly into the camera. It shows up white.

Ahahahah nice try. The camera is zoomed in so much that any light will show bright and big. That doesn't mean the dot hit the camera. Such silly points you raise.

Originally posted by subby
It would be a shame to see a thread thrown in the Hoax bin on the basis that aliens apparantly shouldn't use anything resembling laser pointers.

The laser pointer is just ONE out of MANY factors that make this thread worthy of getting the boot to the hoax bin.


There's also the fact that this kid took "by chance" videos of alien invasion 5 times in a few months. Something even the greatest (and most bold liars) alien hunters haven't done,

The fact that this kid's mom prefers watching TV and chill while there's an alien shooting at her son and invading their home.

The fact that one of the alien costumes is appearing on one of the videos by mistake (good camera work).

The fact that this kid is seeing aliens so many times and getting a chance to get so close to them, yet never takes a better footage than "something" which "shoots" a "laser beam" at him in complete darkness for several minutes while the kid is all "OMG RED THINGS" and does nothing.



If all of those aren't enough, the fact that this is a very earthly made (weak) laser pointer gives it away real fast.

Further evidence of this being an earth made, cheap laser pointer:

Watch the first 10 seconds on the video where the alien supposedly shoots inside the kid's room:
This is one of the videos by the same guy.. I remind you that the video in the OP is just one out of five supposed encounters with aliens by that Alex dude.


Now compare it with what you see here (a prank involving laser pointers in a classroom)


Exact - same - thing.


This is officially debunked unless someone is going to claim aliens are using harmless laser pointers just to prank us, or provide proof of something else that produces the same focused red dot when aimed at walls.

Originally posted by IsraeliGuy

Originally posted by subby
It would be a shame to see a thread thrown in the Hoax bin on the basis that aliens apparantly shouldn't use anything resembling laser pointers.

The laser pointer is just ONE out of MANY factors that make this thread worthy of getting the boot to the hoax bin.


There's also the fact that this kid took "by chance" videos of alien invasion 5 times in a few months. Something even the greatest (and most bold liars) alien hunters haven't done,

The fact that this kid's mom prefers watching TV and chill while there's an alien shooting at her son and invading their home.

The fact that one of the alien costumes is appearing on one of the videos by mistake (good camera work).

The fact that this kid is seeing aliens so many times and getting a chance to get so close to them, yet never takes a better footage than "something" which "shoots" a "laser beam" at him in complete darkness for several minutes while the kid is all "OMG RED THINGS" and does nothing.



If all of those aren't enough, the fact that this is a very earthly made (weak) laser pointer gives it away real fast.

edit on 7-3-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)

All your "facts" are opinions, your opinions and not mine.

As for the "laser pointer", you're asking people to provide an item of alien technology that could be mistaken for a laser pointer, otherwise you're right. Do you see the flaw in your reasoning there?

I don't see why or how you have the authority to label didly squat a hoax based on suppositions.

Lets stick to facts. If the original footage can be uploaded we can have a good look at it, if it can't then why not? The whole story about a new camera with night vision that can't upload to a computer seems odd to me.

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Yeah, I watched the whole video though, the light turns blue at one point. I am no expert on lazer pointers, but I have not seen one that could change colors from red to blue to red.

Originally posted by subby
All your "facts" are opinions, your opinions and not mine.

Opinions?
Every thing I have listed in the previous post is not a fact?
Is it not a fact that the kid, according to his story, sees aliens 5 times in a few months?
Is it not a fact that this kid's mom appears on the video sleeping on the couch watching TV instead of going nuts or even be slightly scared?
Is it not a fact that all of the shots of the aliens this kid is getting (and he's getting many chances this kid ) are very similar - obscure, darkness, only laser pointer aimed at the camera is visible. Nothing better than that. Oh wait there's the first video where you can see something that could very well be a friend wearing an alien mask in the bushes. "Compelling evidence" ...

The only thing that I can safely say that it is not a fact is the alien costume thing. It very well looks like it, and it would be nice for the OP to post a pic of this "vase", as this is what e claims it is.

As for the "laser pointer", you're asking people to provide an item of alien technology that could be mistaken for a laser pointer, otherwise you're right. Do you see the flaw in your reasoning there?

I'm asking people to try and prove this is not a laser pointer. I have already shown images and videos of laser pointers for you to compare with. The ball is on your court if you'd like to prove these aren't laser pointers.

Lets stick to facts. If the original footage can be uploaded we can have a good look at it, if it can't then why not? The whole story about a new camera with night vision that can't upload to a computer seems odd to me.

So far the only person that bothers getting to the facts is me. All you guys do is discuss this as if it was verified as legitimate and proven real.


Well, can you prove that cheap laser pointers are not used in the first video? I already brought forth enough evidence to show these are cheap laser pointers. Now it's your turn.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Yeah, I watched the whole video though, the light turns blue at one point. I am no expert on lazer pointers, but I have not seen one that could change colors from red to blue to red.

LOL are you kidding me? This whole thing is done in pitch black! What guarantee do you have that the kid who made this hoax didn't use a LED or some other blue light, then used the laser afterwards?

It's like you're all watching clouds and insist they are holy spirits.


Edit: Just for you.
I've made this video in about one minute (actually uploading it took more time than actually recording it) and it shows how easy it is to show two changing lights when all you see around it is darkness and pitch black.

The red light is a part of a toy, the white light is a LED flashlight.

Made under 1 minute. Easy as pie.

You're telling me that just because you've seen something like this - you are convinced this is aliens we're talking about?

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Actually sorry no, I have fun here as it is thank you, why else would I come here if it wasn't fun? If you don't like it here, delete the bookmark, problem solved right? A lot of us have a great time here how it is, or it wouldn't be making the owner any money, and they would let it die, or try to shake it up and change it. Not everyone wants this place to be a nerdy circlejerk of people scoffing at every single video put up, and frankly that would drive more people away then it would attcract people. Maybe you should lighten up, running around calling everyone that doesn't agree with you on everything ignorant is not too bright either.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Not everyone wants this place to be a nerdy circlejerk of people scoffing at every single video put up, and frankly that would drive more people away then it would attcract people.

How is what this place has become any better than what you describe?

You people are lead astray by a 16 year old prankster with a laser pen.
Some people are here for the alien evidence you know.

A newcomer like me that sees how this little pathetic hoax receives so much credit without anyone even trying to prove it's legitimacy (eventho there's plenty evidence to suggest otherwise which none of you hasn't confronted yet), will automatically forget about ever finding pieces of real evidence to UFO/Aliens on this board.

People like you are making the entire field of UFO investigations look like a children's game where you only have fun by seeing stupid fake videos and buying for 100% everything you see in them.

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Congratulations, doing something like that is a lot more constructive than just scoffing and throwing around insults. Of course I know that it COULD be a lazer pointer, but just because something looks similar, doesn't mean that is what it is. I have learned to keep an open mind, I guess that comes with experience, and making a lot of mistakes assuming everything is what it seems.