Airstrikes in Libya did not take place - Russian military (Breaking News!)

from first hand experiences from people i know the airstrikes are taking place, to what degree no one really knows but they are taking place

Originally posted by standupamerica32
from first hand experiences from people i know the airstrikes are taking place, to what degree no one really knows but they are taking place

After 13 pages of comments we finally got the proof we've been waiting for!

Has anyone posted videos on YouTube of airstrikes taking place in Lybia? Have any news networks run video of them? If the strikes took place there should be video of them.

It would be fantastic for the rebels to post some videos of the air strikes in question. That would set the record straight as to whether they were actually happening or not. I wouldn't surprise me that Ghadafi would kill everyone and burn the country to the ground just to hold onto power by his fingertips... who knows, there might also be US flags on the side of the jets doing the bombings

All the fake video folks from the 9/11 forum must be licking their chops in anticipation. Here it comes, the first fake video of the Lybian campaign!

We never got the video of the Iraqi soldiers tossing the babies out of the incubators either, or the videos of the plane striking the Pentagon.

Maybe the videos have been seized in the name of national security.

If these strikes took place, there is probably recorded radio traffic associated with them as well. Stuff like "Ayee!! Look at the women and children run!!" or "Gadhafi is great! Look at that camel explode!" (These dialogue tidbits are typical jet pilot talk in the style of Terry and the Pirates an old comic strip I read avidly as a kid. It was sort of an Indiana Jones of the military. "Ayee!!" was a typical exclamation of triumph or defeat.)

reply to post by CthuluPrime


It has already been done, just scroll back to find it. Some of the protesters were even pointing to the sky as they are shouting at the end. I doubt the north African mercenaries that have been caught, and most have been killed had wings.

Blaine9155(?) and another member posted this link with video.

www.cnn.com...

There was at least one other video posted if you scroll back.

Another video which was smuggled out and that shows some bodies of unfortunate people who were torn apart by artillery.

Link

Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by Vampiri
reply to post by ignorant_ape

 

How does the Libyan AF defect to malta explain civillian bombings?

Yesterday my prime minister told me to bomb Oslo, instead i choose to fly elsewhere. Here is a picture of my plane on A tar-mac to prove it:




See.. explains nothing.. just saying

what about the other guys he told to bomb? i don't see their planes. explains nothing, is right.

reply to post by Techyo


obviously you only have my word witch is squat when it come to millions of voices on the internet but oh well not trying to convince anyone to anything i just know that they are believe whatever u want it makes no diff to me

Why do the so called libyan rebels have air radar and anti-aircraft pointing at the sky if they aren't getting bombed?

The statement made by the Russian military refers to airstrikes reported to have taken place on February 22nd, in Benghazi and Tripoli, while the CNN footage linked to above refers to the dropping of 3 count'em, 3 bombs on soldiers assembling near a town called al Brega, on March 3rd.

www.cnn.com...

A CNN crew saw the aircraft drop two bombs near al-Brega, a town in the east with key oil and natural gas facilities.

Later, a military aircraft dropped a third bomb.

If video of Tripoli and Benghazi being bombed on February 22nd has not already made it to the web, then the events almost certainly did not occur.

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
reply to post by JanusFIN

 

This doesn't surprise me in the least and I was talking with friends about the propaganda which may in fact be false or exaggerated. Reminds me of Russia, Ossetia and Georgia conflict, another information war where the west is clearly lying.

Scary and WWIII... right around the corner.

Oh, the West is clearly lying? Well I suppose then that you also believe that the protesters are supported by Al-Qaida and are under the effects of hallucinogenic drugs as well?

Originally posted by Hot_Wings


Only two pilots defected and made some outlandish claims to the media in order not to suffer any reprisals for doing so. That’s my thinking about this anyway.

Quiet a few other pilot defected by ejecting out there aircraft after been given orders to fire on the rebels

On 23 February 2011, pilot Abdessalam Attiyah al-Abdali and co-pilot Ali Omar al-Kadhafi, crew of a Sukhoi-22, ejected with parachutes near Ajdabiya, 100 miles west of Benghazi, after refusing orders to bomb the city of Benghazi[6].

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
On 23 February 2011, pilot Abdessalam Attiyah al-Abdali and co-pilot Ali Omar al-Kadhafi, crew of a Sukhoi-22, ejected with parachutes near Ajdabiya, 100 miles west of Benghazi, after refusing orders to bomb the city of Benghazi[6].

Does this mean that Gadhafi is rationing fuel to his warplanes to prevent them from flying to Malta? So far all we have related to "airstrikes on cities" is the testimony of pilots and crew who refused to carry out the orders.

There is no footage of airstrikes on Benghazi and Tripoli, which were reported to have taken place on March 22nd.

Pilot testimony is very "spinnable". There is no doubt that a defector would say whatever his new hosts want him to.

I just checked out the online TV outlet for the news station France 24. Things seem very calm in Benghazi where people are going about the business of setting up the post-Gadhafi administration of the city. There is no panic, no apprehension and no talk of airstrikes that I have heard so far.

Even if you don't speak French, the pictures tell the story.

fr.wwitv.com...

They are reporting a battle for al Brega and its oil storage facilities. The rebels are said to control the airport near that city and there is footage of them shooting their weapons but no footage that I have seen of government forces.

The rebels want a no fly zone and the Americans want a no fly zone.

Others are not so sure about that idea.

Edit: The text crawl on France 24 says that the rebels have regained control of al Brega, that Hugo Chavez has proposed a peace plan that the Arab League is said to be interested in and two Iranian warships have entered the Suez Canal.

Earlier two American warships passed from the Persian Gulf area through the canal toward the Mediterranean.

I'm amazed that Iran is doing this.

reply to post by FrancoUn-American


I noticed you're conveniently forgetting a certain small country called Vietnam, when you're recounting your country's wartime prowess.

I don't seem to remember the Viet-cong having many sophisticated weapons platforms either, still kicked just about everyone out of it's country though, didn't it! Including the largest war machine on the planet - the USA.

Afghanistan is another...ask the French, Russians and now British and Americans. And these Afghans are hardly equipped with many stealth fighters or bombers...or much of anything considered militarily advanced.

It's a *VERY* big mistake to place all of one's faith and security in technology alone. It's *ALL* about hearts and minds, NOT who has the biggest number of bombs or most advanced military machine.

reply to post by spikey


According to France 24, Gadhafi has promised to turn the country into another Vietnam if there is American interference there.

This business with the Iranians sending two warships to the Mediterranean is very interesting. Are the Iranians Russian proxies in this case? Undoubtedly.

reply to post by oddnutz


Sorry, in the only two battles the Australians fought in VN they were clear victors. The NVA and VC won no major battles against any of SVN's allies. None. America won all the battles and lost the war, but there were never defeated militarily.

As for Russia saying there were no bombing raids, wow, that's one Hell of a radar set they've got at Sheremetyevo.

Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
reply to post by oddnutz

 

America won all the battles and lost the war, but there were never defeated militarily.

That's true. They weren't defeated militarily, it just took way too long for them to win the war.

US combat units went in in 1965 and Saigon fell in 1975.

When Mike Tyson goes up against a 97 pound weakling, you expect Mike to clean up quickly. You don't expect him to go chaotic on you and scramble out of the ring, ten years later with his tail between his legs because his management are tired of waiting for victory.

As for Russia saying there were no bombing raids, wow, that's one Hell of a radar set they've got at Sheremetyevo.

Satellites, AWACS, assurances from their ally Ghadafi?

reply to post by ipsedixit


The Russians were talking about their sattelites not showing the bombing raids. I was ignoring that and making a snarky comment, because I trust the Russian public information system when commenting on events outside Russia about as much as the Khmer Republic's information office during Cambodia's civil war. It's chief spokesman, by the way, was Colonel Am Rong.

As for their AWACS birds, that might explain why they don't want a No Fly Zone enforced over Libya, they wouldn't be able to fly either, except as part of the enforcement mission.

As for Gadaffi's assurances, he sent the foreign media to take a look at a town outside Tripoli to see for themselves that there were no protestors or rebels. They got a great, up close and personal view of the rebels who held the town.

But, really, who is seriously going to believe a report made by Russian tv based on information given to them by Russian military/intelligence sources about popular uprisings in former Soviet client states run by dictators?

reply to post by HowlrunnerIV

You could be right. I would still like to see footage from March 22nd. of those raids.

What do you make of the Iranian warships heading for the area? Very interesting, I say.