Evolution.... Question

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by Violater1
The same reason we don't have dolphin, dog, crocodile, shark, or elephant people.
G_D made people separate, to rule over all of the Earthly creatures.
There is no way creationists( or Christians, insert any religion that believes in the Holy Trinity here.) and evolutionists (Atheists) will ever see eye to eye.

Please don't force "evolutionist" and Atheist together, they aren't the same at all, there were atheists before evolution and there are atheists who don't believe in evolution.

Just as important do not force Christians or any other religion and creationist in the same group.
There are lots of Christians who full understand and accept the theory of evolution.

Ken Miller comes to mind. Most famous for owning the intelligent design noobs

.www.youtube.com...
( it is a long one so I am just going to link to it)

I would like to put something in the mix.

Intelligent design is part of evolution. Just not the intelligence of a creator.

Once an animal group is at the point where one individual chooses what individual it breeds with then to an extent intelligence is being used to shape that group.

Bird of paradise as an example?

reply to post by colin42


What you're touching on there is sexual selection. In my opinion it is as important if not more important than natural selection. Also, it is just another example of how evolution is not a random process.

reply to post by Xcalibur254


Well not as random as some may think.

That is where I believe some have problems understanding the processes involved with evolution. It is essentially driven by the environment but living animals with social structures also affect its path and interact with it.

The human being is a great example of this, We by pass evolution and find tech to ensure survival but ultimately the environment will win through and whether we adapt and survive or not what replaces us will not be superior or inferior just more able to survive and pass on their genes. Life will carry on with or without us.

Of course there are also people that choose to disregard the simple truth that evolution is a real force that shapes life and enables it to continue and exist because it insults their belief in our special status given to us by some deity or other and no evidence will ever change that.

My personal view is evolution describes the way life adapts and far from spoils the belief that god made everything fills me with awe at life’s resilience and beauty and through it we have been given a tool to understand its magnificence even if it is in a small way.

It does not prove or disprove a creator nor can it so I can never understand those that need a creator trying to disprove it. They really need to go bother the physics mob.

reply to post by downunder666


Say hello to Mr Dawkins...

reply to post by redtic


Hi Redtic,

that was very useful, thanks for posting this link... Watching this made me think my question wasnt so dumb after all, as stated earlier by no means am I an expert.

So now proposes the question, the origin of the our common ancestor.... I must do some further research on this.

reply to post by downunder666


when they say we evolved from monkeys and apes its not quite that litteral. they all broke off from a common ancester which formed the differnt groups that than went off evolving in thier own direction. our ancester split into twp groups one that went out on the pl.ains of africa and becamw what would eventualy become us and the other stayed in the jungle and eventualy became chimpanzees