They need to stop evacuating so called Americans from Libya

Most of them live there and have family in Libya, many left the US a long time ago and now all the sudden they want to claim America. The moved to Libya so they need to deal with the consequences. If you put yourself in risky scenarios you shouldn't expect to be bailed out. DEAL WITH IT.

It reminds me of the movie 2012 when the privilege people were allowed to escape catastrophe by boarding those submarine looking boats.

Former US citizens or people just simply born in America are no more privileged then anyone else. I'm sure some Libyans want to get out that hell hole too.

I find it funny that as soon as # hits the fan they expect tax payers to pay for them to relocate.

the only true duty of a govenment is to protect its citizens, I can't see how this is bad.

Seriously?



Why should it matter to you or anyone else if American citizens residing in a foreign country plagued by strife are leaving for safer territory? It doesn't affect you in any way.

American citizens abroad can still be conscipted (if they ever bring it back), vote, commit treason, be taxed or work for american companies.

This just seems like thinly veiled foreigner bashing.

I suppose all of the other countries and corporations around the world should do the same?

Governments around the world, as well as companies, were making a run to get their people out of volatile Libya. Schlumberger, an oil and gas technology company, said Friday that it had evacuated 300 people, including 200 employees and their families. (1)

Your thread (gripe? rant?) makes no sense...

Just a tad callous, no?

Let's put you in their shoes. You, for whatever reason, be it you have the right education to get a job in the Oil sector or just want to live in another place, emigrate to another country. That country goes to pot and you're in danger, so is it not the duty of your home country to look after you?

In fact, the recent evacuations have seen citizens of different countries being rescued by others. Ireland flew out Britons trapped, Turkey took all sorts, Germany took whoever was available.

It's the humanitarian thing to do. I think you would be appalled if you went your embassy or consulate and requested an evacuation only to be told "Sorry, you made your choice moving here, deal with it. You're not our problem!"

One of the primary functions of Embassies and Consulates is to provide support and assistance to it's countries citizens in that country. I think you are massively missing the point.

I find it funny that as soon as # hits the fan they expect tax payers to pay for them to relocate.

Americans pay US tax on world-wide, earned income. You are aware of this in the tax code, no?

I'm sorry, I just don't think the government should be responsible for Americans who live abroad in "questionable" countries.

They made their bed they need to sleep in it.

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So, if you lived abroad you would be perfectly happy to be left to fend for yourself if the SHTF?

As long as you are, then fair enough I suppose, you're entitled to your opinion. I think you'll find that 95% of people will be against you on this one though.

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Did you know if you move over seas as an American, anywhere in the World.. you have to pay full income taxes to both the USA and residing country? Yes.. double taxes.. and this continues until you renounce citizenship.

Those are Americans.. they pay American taxes.. they need help, we should supply said help.

Yeah since they are still citizen of different countries I guess they have the right to go back home whenevr they want to. Right? So how does it matter if they leave now?

Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
I'm sorry, I just don't think the government should be responsible for Americans who live abroad in "questionable" countries.

They made their bed they need to sleep in it.

i think i see where you are coming from. just like all American soldiers should have to make their own way back from Iraqi battle fields.

Kinda on the fence about this.....if you were born American, decided that work/economy was not good enough so you move to another country, achieve dual citizenship, then that country fails, all of a sudden you want Uncle Scam to bail you out?

Shoe on the other foot.......you were born Libyan, moved to America, America goes to the dogs - would you expect Libya to extract you?

How many foreigners were extracted before/during 9/11 by their homeland?? And what countries did they belong to?

Originally posted by I.C. Weiner
How many foreigners were extracted before/during 9/11 by their homeland?? And what countries did they belong to?

every country that officially knew about 9/11 beforehand evacuated their citizens before.

I'm suprised the rest didn't evacuate their people after because I hear it was as bad as a civilwar out in the US for weeks after.



seriously theres no comparison between the two situations.

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Define "questionable." Because if you want a change in US law - and that IS what you're asking for - you're going to need to set up a specific definition as to what, in exacting detail, "questionable country" means.

Until a week and a half ago, Libya was regarded as a stable country that was a US ally in the war on terror and a booming oil-based economy that was welcoming of American and other foreign investments. Ghana, another example of a country that has historically been regarded as a great place for Americans, that is now seeing a lot of violence.

So exactly what standards are you using here, BMT?