Madeleine McCann is In America!

According to the Mail they have information that appears to show that this little girl is now in America - Her Parents still search and Americans Citizens could help by keeping a look out.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Is this still going on..

It has been what.. 3 or more years, with basically no hard proof that she has been in any of these countries that she has supposedly been sighted in.

Its a shame things like this happen to children or anyone for that matter but this is getting dragged out a bit isnt it.
surely if she was still alive and kicking somewhere , someone would of found her by now or at least grabbed a photo or quick vid of her or something.

i do feel for the mcanns but in all fairness , if they were good parents and didn't leave their three young children unattended in a hotel room on there own none of this would of happened.

I find it hard to believe that a gang based in europe would transport one of their victims to another continent on the other side of the planet and risk getting caught if discovered and jepordise the rest of their operation. Especially one of the highest profile cases to date.

I would also have to ask, was this investigator paid for his work and needed to show some kind of results for some kind of reward?

Time will tell, and maybe more information about this apparent sighting or evidence will come to light.

What I can't figure out is why Maddie didn't scream and shout when she was allegedly aducted. She is the same age as my eldest daughter and I know that if someone who she didn't know had tried to take her even at that age my daughter would have made a HUGE fuss. Also, why take Maddie who could have caused them to be caught by making a fuss? Why not the one or both of the twins who were babies and would not have known any danger and were smaller therefore easier to take?
This whole case has not felt right since the beginning. Something happened that terrible night and I have to wonder how far their crap parenting went.

reply to post by ScorpioRising


This is a very touchy subject to broach at best. However, pains me though it does, I am inclined to agree with you on this. I think that something did happen that night and it is being covered up.

I truely fear that she is most probably dead.

Originally posted by Predator90
Is this still going on..


i do feel for the mcanns but in all fairness , if they were good parents and didn't leave their three young children unattended in a hotel room on there own none of this would of happened.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this blame the victim thing, which is getting pretty old, is based on a complete misunderstanding!
The parents, according to a doco shown here (NZ) a few years back, showed that the hotel room where the McCanns left their children was all of 10 metres away from and in view of the dining room where they were, and on the same level!
Why are people so eager to blame the parents? So they'll feel superior, so they'll feel secure that as they are good parents, it won't happen to them?
News flash. Terrible things can happen to the most conscientious parents.
Just last night, I saw a news item on a TV magazine programme about a father who came home to find his 4 month old baby son alone in the house, crying his poor little heart out!
The nanny he'd hired from a reputable agency, had pissed off in the middle of the day, leaving the baby, and had apparently done it before, thinking she would be back before the parents came home from work, as she had done before.
Luckily the baby was distressed but otherwise unharmed.
Vicky

Originally posted by Vicky32

Originally posted by Predator90
Is this still going on..


i do feel for the mcanns but in all fairness , if they were good parents and didn't leave their three young children unattended in a hotel room on there own none of this would of happened.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this blame the victim thing, which is getting pretty old, is based on a complete misunderstanding!
The parents, according to a doco shown here (NZ) a few years back, showed that the hotel room where the McCanns left their children was all of 10 metres away from and in view of the dining room where they were, and on the same level!
Why are people so eager to blame the parents? So they'll feel superior, so they'll feel secure that as they are good parents, it won't happen to them?
News flash. Terrible things can happen to the most conscientious parents.
Just last night, I saw a news item on a TV magazine programme about a father who came home to find his 4 month old baby son alone in the house, crying his poor little heart out!
The nanny he'd hired from a reputable agency, had pissed off in the middle of the day, leaving the baby, and had apparently done it before, thinking she would be back before the parents came home from work, as she had done before.
Luckily the baby was distressed but otherwise unharmed.
Vicky

Question: Would YOU leave your children unattended in a foreign appartment so you could go out to dinner with your friends? I know I sure wouldn't. Even if I could see the appartment from where I was leisurely drinking and eating. Sorry but they should have blame placed on them for negligence. They failed to protect their children adequately. Sorry but if you go on holiday with your young children then DON'T expect to sod off for the night without them! Family holiday means FAMILY holiday. They acted irresponsibly and no amount of excuses will make that any less true.
If she even was abducted.

Just last night, I saw a news item on a TV magazine programme about a father who came home to find his 4 month old baby son alone in the house, crying his poor little heart out! The nanny he'd hired from a reputable agency, had pissed off in the middle of the day, leaving the baby, and had apparently done it before, thinking she would be back before the parents came home from work, as she had done before. Luckily the baby was distressed but otherwise unharmed.

That is entirely different! The father employed a Nanny to care for his child. The Nanny left the child alone not the parent. In the McCann case it was the parents who left the children alone.

reply to post by TheLoneArcher


Thank you. It is indeed a horrid thing to consider but sadly I too feel she is no longer with us. And someone knows more than they are saying.

Originally posted by Vicky32

Originally posted by Predator90
Is this still going on..


i do feel for the mcanns but in all fairness , if they were good parents and didn't leave their three young children unattended in a hotel room on there own none of this would of happened.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this blame the victim thing, which is getting pretty old, is based on a complete misunderstanding!
The parents, according to a doco shown here (NZ) a few years back, showed that the hotel room where the McCanns left their children was all of 10 metres away from and in view of the dining room where they were, and on the same level!
Why are people so eager to blame the parents? So they'll feel superior, so they'll feel secure that as they are good parents, it won't happen to them?
News flash. Terrible things can happen to the most conscientious parents.
Just last night, I saw a news item on a TV magazine programme about a father who came home to find his 4 month old baby son alone in the house, crying his poor little heart out!
The nanny he'd hired from a reputable agency, had pissed off in the middle of the day, leaving the baby, and had apparently done it before, thinking she would be back before the parents came home from work, as she had done before.
Luckily the baby was distressed but otherwise unharmed.
Vicky

I am sorry but if what you've just stated is true and the room was 10 meters away, was in plain sight and on the same level and such how the hell did someone manage to kidnap their child without being spotted by the mcanns or someone in their party..?

You just don't leave vulnerable young children in a hotel room FULL STOP. I am only 20 and i have no kids or parenting experience but even i know this, its just common sense.

Originally posted by ScorpioRising
What I can't figure out is why Maddie didn't scream and shout when she was allegedly aducted.

"Quick! come with me...your Mummy and Daddy are in trouble!"

No resistance but willingness and urgency to follow coupled with distraction from what's really happening.

Sometimes things are simpler than people think, and sickos are probably smart and experienced in these things.

The key is for parents to be responsible, educate their children and be vigilant at ALL times.

The most commonly reported distance from the McCanns who were sitting in the Tapas bar and their children in the apartment was 50 yards. It is also alledged that they could not see the apartment from their table.

It blows my mind that anyone would take up for the parents who knowingly left their children unattended. I don't care if they were 10 meters away or 10 inches away! The fact remains that the child still disappeared so no matter how close they were, they weren't watching! If the parents aren't the ones responsible for the girl's disappearance, they weren't paying enough attention to see someone walk in grab their child and then back out again. It's parental neglect, pain and simple. And saying that doesn't make me feel superior to anyone. It's a parent's responsibility to protect children. These parents obviously had other things in mind that they deemed to be more important than their own children. That's ridiculous. I don't think we'll ever know the real story.

reply to post by nerbot


Ok that is fair enough that she could have been misled into complying.

I still think the parents either know more than they are saying or have lied about being able to see the apartment and regularly checking the kids.
If it is them that did something to Maddie, earlier in the day for instance, what better alibi than being at dinner with friends and she gets 'abduted'.

Originally posted by ScorpioRising


Question: Would YOU leave your children unattended in a foreign appartment so you could go out to dinner with your friends? I know I sure wouldn't. Even if I could see the appartment from where I was leisurely drinking and eating. Sorry but they should have blame placed on them for negligence. They failed to protect their children adequately. Sorry but if you go on holiday with your young children then DON'T expect to sod off for the night without them! Family holiday means FAMILY holiday. They acted irresponsibly and no amount of excuses will make that any less true.
If she even was abducted.



That is entirely different! The father employed a Nanny to care for his child. The Nanny left the child alone not the parent. In the McCann case it was the parents who left the children alone.

edit on 18-2-2011 by ScorpioRising because: (no reason given)

Look, I am just going by a TV doco years back, I don't know any more than that! But I think from what I have heard, that the parents should be given the benefit of the doubt!
Vicky

reply to post by Predator90

Its a shame things like this happen to children or anyone for that matter but this is getting dragged out a bit isnt it.

So when should the world stop caring about their babies?

A month? A year? Two?

Your post makes me sick. 'insert vomit smiley here'

With all the hopes and prayers I've got I pray this time we've found Maddy!

Here in Europe we're horrifies over a pair of twins that are missing.
Beautiful little blond twins.
I couldn't help but think of Maddy when it came up on the news about these girls missing.
My first thought? Abducted by pedo-rings.

Keep hoping and praying people, we might just find these babies yet!

S&F to the OP for keeping us posted. THANK YOU!

peace

Originally posted by ScorpioRising
reply to post by nerbot

 

Ok that is fair enough that she could have been misled into complying.

I still think the parents either know more than they are saying or have lied about being able to see the apartment and regularly checking the kids.
If it is them that did something to Maddie, earlier in the day for instance, what better alibi than being at dinner with friends and she gets 'abduted'.

The other thing I have heard is that the allegations against the mother in particular (I find it odd that it's always the mother!) were blown up by a particular Portuguese police officer who was having a very hard time actually achieving anything.
It's a popular police action - when getting now here fast, quickly attack the victims!
Next door to us, in Australia, a woman Lindy Chamberlain, spent decades in prison for murdering her baby daughter, and years later, far too late for Lindy and her other children, it was found that her story, ridiculed by amongst others, that charming woman Julia Louis Drefuss on Seinfeld "a dingo took my baby" was actually true.
Meanwhile, the husband had taken the surviving children and had a high old time, remarrying, and refusing to let the kids even know if their mother was alive or not.
Barsteward.
But the cops deserve even greater opprobrium than the disloyal jerk of a daddy.
V.

reply to post by Vicky32


That is your opinion and I respect that.
But doesn't their obvious negligence concern you? To willingly leave your children, especially that young, alone in an apartment? Imagine it happened at home, someone pops to their local shop for only 5 minutes leaving a child/children sleeping in their beds. If they were caught what would happen? They would be charged with child neglect. What makes the McCanns so special?

Its just a false story so it re-ignites public interest in the case. I read somewhere a short while ago that the McCanns were running out of money. Sorry but this looks like a devious little plan by a devious couple to extract more money from a gullible public.

Originally posted by ScorpioRising
reply to post by Vicky32

 

That is your opinion and I respect that.
But doesn't their obvious negligence concern you? To willingly leave your children, especially that young, alone in an apartment? Imagine it happened at home, someone pops to their local shop for only 5 minutes leaving a child/children sleeping in their beds. If they were caught what would happen? They would be charged with child neglect. What makes the McCanns so special?

You're right, of course... I can only go by what I have heard... and what I heard was that they didn't leave the children completely alone and unattended, inasmuch as they believed that the room was close enough to the bar where they were and that the hotel staff would be able and willing to alert them to any problems!
Vicky