Old , new guy

Going to take me awhile to learn the ATS navigation but i've been reading and figured it was time to join . Not really a theorist but i'm interested in everything and something happened a long , long time ago that i can explain , but not really . I didn't see a UFO , i saw a flying saucer , broad daylight , right in front of me . Took me decades to write it up and report it but below is the submission i made a few years ago to HBCCUFO .

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Mattagami River - South Of James Bay, Northern Ontario Saucer Shaped Craft



Posted: March 9, 2005
Date: November 23 1963 Time: 10:00 a.m

It was 10:00 a.m., November 23, 1963, a cold but bright and sunny morning. Robert and I had walked to school, as we did everyday to find the school closed. A teacher was there and informed us that there would be no classes today in honor of President Kennedy, who had been assassinated the previous day. Robert suggested that we walk over to his house to find something to do.

At the time we were living in a temporary construction community 80 miles south of James Bay, Northern Ontario on the Mattagami River. Three hydroelectric power dams were being built on the river and our fathers were working on the project. There were roads from one dam to the next for hauling men and material and no roads to the outside world. Everything was delivered by train from the town of Kapuskasing, 60 miles south of us.

We arrived at Robert's place and sat on the back step, which faced west. Robert decided to go in and get his guitar that his older brother had been teaching him to play. As we sat there with Robert strumming away I looked up and across the road. There was a single lane dirt road behind Robert's place about 15 feet wide. Next was a ditch about the same width and after that a wide, two lane road for hauling equipment referred to as the Smokey Falls Road. It was about 60 feet wide and on the opposite side of that, another 15 foot wide ditch and then 100 feet to the tree line. The trees are small up there consisting of thin, wispy pines in groves and between the groves, moss and tundra. From where we sat, to the first grove of trees opposite to us would be 70 to 75 yards.

I never heard or noticed it arriving, but there it was just sitting there, about 10 feet higher than the tallest tree in the first grove, which would put it 30 feet off the ground. I jabbed Robert with my elbow and pointed. We just sat there in silence watching it, as it was watching us. It was huge, with the diameter being half the distance from us to the tree line, so about 30 yards. From top to bottom at the center the dimension was at least and maybe greater than the height of the trees, 6 or 7 yards in thickness. It appeared to be constructed of dull aluminum and was shaped like a saucer with the exception that the top and bottom halves did not join in a sharp edge. All the way around the center it looked like dark windows, 6 feet tall. As Robert and I watched, the craft tilted with the closest side to us down and the rear of the saucer up. It appeared that whoever was inside was trying to get a better look at us. It shifted back down to its original position and then drifted at low speed to the west and behind the trees. The total observation time was probably one minute, although it seemed longer at the time.

That was the last we saw of the saucer, but not the last of the saucer. The construction project went on 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and two or three nights after the encounter Robert and I had, my father received a phone call at home. I recall him being so angry as he grabbed the keys for the company truck and headed out. Construction workers need light to work by when the sun goes down and Dad had electricians running the diesel powered lighting plants. Three electricians had just walked off the job and refused to return claiming that they had come under attack by a low flying saucer. One of the electricians claimed to have thrown a hammer at the saucer as it took a low pass at him and according to him, he hit it.

Dad radioed for another crew to take over the position and was driving the electricians back to the construction camp but had to stop often as one of the fellows was violently sick. The next morning the sick fellow went to the clinic and the doctor and nurses applied cream and then bandaged him top to bottom to sooth and cover his burned, blistered skin. It was the talk of the town for awhile as folks puzzled over getting that bad of sunburn while fully clothed, working the night shift.

There was no blinking, flashing light in some corner of a dark sky. This was a saucer, up close and personal. On the few occasions that I've discussed it with others over the last 40 plus years and I've offered this example. Let's say it's a very clear, very bright day and you look across the street to see a school bus parked 75 yards away. More than likely, you could very accurately describe it.

Thank you to the eye witness for this interesting report.

Brian Vike, Director HBCC UFO Research Home - Phone 250 845 2189 email: [email protected] Website: www.hbccufo.org... HBCC UFO RESEARCH Newsletter At: groups.yahoo.com...

HBCC UFO Research, Box 1091 Houston, British Columbia, Canada - VOJ 1ZO

thank you for that interesting and very well done account.

It you didn't say if you have followed the UFO phenomena at all in the years after. If not, you may be interested in two US cases that resulted in injuries to the witnesses. The most famous one, yet under disipute whether it was a ET craft or secret device of the US, is the Cash-Lundrum (SP?) case that occurred near Houston, Texas in the 1980s. The two women witnesses required hospital care. My understanding is that they never fully recovered and both women died earlier than normal of cancer.

The other famous case that some folks claim is a hoax, is the Travis Walton case. He run under a low, hovering UFOs and received a ray blast of some sort. His buddies paniced an left the scene but quickly returned to find him missing. About a week later he turned up alive but sick. The theory is that the ray saved his life by knocking him back away from being underneath the craft. The ETs took him away for healing and brought him back miles away when he recovered decently. Walton's book is entitled The Walton Excperience. A bad movie was made about the case entitled The Fire Came By.

There are other early cases also, one involved a Florida scountmaster zapped with an narrow ray as he approached a low, hovering saucer. And in that early period, there was a frightful case of a Brazilian sentry that was burned by a UFO.. So there are those injury cases and others in the lore be be accepted, denied, or ignored. Personally, I full accept you account.

reply to post by bandito


Welcome, and thank you for this account of your own experience. I can't imagine how it must have still been in the back of your mind all these years. Were there any others in the area that you know of who might have seen it as well as you and your friend? From what you relate, it seems to maybe have been in the general vicinity for awhile, and maybe visible to others.

I mean, other than the working crew who also recounted their own encounter...maybe other residents?
( Additional clarification of thought )

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I didn't follow the UFO phenomena , because i didn't know there was one . I lived up there for 7 years . Very remote with no roads in or out . A guess but i'd guess 1970 until i actually heard about UFO's . It was just something that happened , and then it was over . You folks would know better than me , but was it maybe the mid-1970's when all of the UFO books started to get published ? Whenever it was , in the space of about 2 years i probably bought every book published , and then dropped it . Mid-80's an organization brought Stanton Friedman to the town i was living in and when i read about it in the newspaper , i recognized his name , so i went . Great evening . I got interested again for a short time , and that was it , again . Close to two decades later something triggered a memory so i decided to write it down . I told the story a few times and noticed that folks would roll their eyes , kinda like i could be crazy so i didn't tell the story very often . I never saw a UFO , i can positively identify what we saw , although i don't know what it was except a flying saucer , close up .

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5 saw it for sure and probably 6 although no one was with the 6th person but there was no reason to disbelieve him . Myself and Robert , both 13 years old and 3 electricians . Robert is gone as are two of the electricians but the 3rd electrician is somewhere around 90 years old and lives 10 blocks from me . I never see him , he was a friend of my fathers while i was a kid . There was one small temporary town for construction workers who built the 3 dams and when the project was over , that was it . The last out was about 1970 so by now i doubt that the old town site could even be found . All grown up with bush now . Everyone lived in trailers that were taken in on the log train or upriver and barges and when the project was over , everyone and all of the trailers came back out .