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Originally posted by SirKnightE
Originally posted by network dude
A 21 year old will be initiated into my lodge in a few weeks. If he studies well,and isn't afraid to work hard, he can become a master mason in 6 months or less. If he does that, he may still be able to attend the Scottish Rite Reunion this fall. That would mean that a 21 year old would be a 32nd degree mason before years end. It's not a difficult process.
I am a bit concerned at how SirKnightE thinks one attains the 33rd degree. You do not have to spend money to get it. You cannot buy it. You cannot ask for it. You cannot get it any other way than giving your heart to others. Spending time trying to do the things we as masons, do to help our brothers and our communities. All this is the Scottish Rite. I cannot speak for the York Rite, but a few others here can.
I agree, but others know as well as I do this craft is not the same as it used to be. It honestly seems these days the grand body is more concerned about quantity over quality. I have not totally lost faith on this craft, but alot of members I see join today, can not even walk the stair case before they are raised. Now they have the new rule you dont have to be 32nd or a knight anymore to recieve your shrine degree. I know several states that incorporate that 1 day mason bullcrap. I seen where they have weekend workshops where you can go from o degree to 32nd, to shrine in a couple of days. Like I said if you have the money and the connects, anyone can become a mason, or 32nd even 33rd. But it nolonger means anything these days to anyone.
It took me 5 years to elevate to 32nd, then another year before I was knighted, I spent an entire year alone just as a F.C. You dont see this anymore, this is why I tend to act how I act about masonry today.edit on 11-2-2011 by SirKnightE because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WOWITSNOW
reply to post by undo
undo, your posts are very lucrative to my knowledge of certain things. I would like to take a MR. HUDSON stance on this one.
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Originally posted by WOWITSNOW
reply to post by undo
Much do respect and i am not at any point in my conversation's with you in dispute with you at all, let me get that out of the way. You are well informed in your research of egyptian culture which has laid itself infront of our culture at this time. flip that picture upside down and what do you see?
Originally posted by WOWITSNOW
i did not say it was an upside picture. My comment was turn that picture upside down and what do you see? I know what it is right side up.
The Holy Grail - Chalice or Manna Machine?
by Dr. Johannes Fiebag and Peter Fiebag
Translated from the German by George T. Sassoon
The Kabbalah, a body of Jewish traditional knowledge, was kept secret until the 13th Century AD, it s content was regarded from the magical-mystical point of view particularly so with respect to the Ancient of Days. This was considered to be a Jewish demi-god until in 1978 two English engineers, George Sassoon and Rodney Dale, concluded that the description of the Ancient of Days in the Zohar, one of the books of the Kabbalah, was not of an ominous god-figure, but rather a machine...
Originally posted by spacegod
Harumph.
I'm getting a lot more interesting off-topic info from everyone else but the OP!
"Something's gonna happen..."
What exactly?
Haven't we heard this a billion times before? Hasn't the end of the world, or the coming of Christ, or the millennium being predicted over and over? Hasn't the world been ending since it started?
Now that we have white rappers and black Presidents, the Mayan 2012 doomsday looming, and unrest in Egypt, isn't telling us "something's gonna happen" sort of like spitting into the ocean?
Sure, if anyone could topple and create governments it would be the Masons.
But what exactly is going to happen? A New World Order?
And what would be so bad about a New World Order?
Is the one we have so great? Why shouldn't a planet have a global perspective?
And don't give me that HAARP-induced, bird-dropping, ELF electromagnetic manipulation--
if we really and truly were mind-controlled robots....we wouldn't care that we were mind-controlled robots.
Was the OP's friend simply testing the OP to see if he can keep a secret?
Is this thread, along with the abnormally large amount of UFO/alien movies scheduled for release this summer, the Jerusalem orb kerfuffle, the shutting down of fringe sites (end returns), and the general unrest in the world, another part of our grooming for a faked extraterrestrial landing to gather the people of earth under a new god/pharaoh/king/secret chief paradigm?