Widows Son!, The time is near...One World Order

Originally posted by boondock-saint
reply to post by SirKnightE

 

well I was a lil taken back by this thread
for many reasons.

First, was the notion that maybe your brother told you this info
"On the Square". If that be the case, then you have betrayed
your friend's trust and confidant and not worthy to be called
a brother as you have broken your oath. If this info was NOT
shared on the square, then please disregard #1.

Second, you have already given more than enough info
about yourself to be found should the need ever arise for the
craft to do so. That should not be considered a threat by
me, just an acknowledgment of the facts presented.

Third, I would like to remind you of your oath once again
and it's implications. An oath cannot be rescinded even
if you leave the fraternity for any reason.

Fourth, IF this story is true (which I have doubts) then maybe
your loyalty has been tested and we see the results of
that test. A loyalty test is given to those whom have
aspirations of the 33Deg. It would seem that you may
have failed miserably in that regard.

Fifth, I do not think a 32Deg Mason would be privy to such
info as you are displaying in this thread. Which brings into
question your motives for doing so.

Sixth, no Masonic Organization that I am aware of allows
an 18 yr old to be initiated, passed or even raised. As it
is passed down by by-laws that the age requirement is 21
for a petition. Which also throws doubt onto your legitimacy.

So, even at it's finest point,
there are holes in this thread
which lead to red flags
of concern.

so mote it be

Past Master

edit on 2/10/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

If the oath of the brotherhood is more important than the health and well being of man, then through the realization and power of all that is, may this fraternity find itself in the depths of hell until dissolution and later extinction scatter it to winds where not a soul ever knew of its existence.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
reply to post by SirKnightE

 

well I was a lil taken back by this thread
for many reasons.

First, was the notion that maybe your brother told you this info
"On the Square". If that be the case, then you have betrayed
your friend's trust and confidant and not worthy to be called
a brother as you have broken your oath. If this info was NOT
shared on the square, then please disregard #1.

Second, you have already given more than enough info
about yourself to be found should the need ever arise for the
craft to do so. That should not be considered a threat by
me, just an acknowledgment of the facts presented.

Third, I would like to remind you of your oath once again
and it's implications. An oath cannot be rescinded even
if you leave the fraternity for any reason.

Fourth, IF this story is true (which I have doubts) then maybe
your loyalty has been tested and we see the results of
that test. A loyalty test is given to those whom have
aspirations of the 33Deg. It would seem that you may
have failed miserably in that regard.

Fifth, I do not think a 32Deg Mason would be privy to such
info as you are displaying in this thread. Which brings into
question your motives for doing so.

Sixth, no Masonic Organization that I am aware of allows
an 18 yr old to be initiated, passed or even raised. As it
is passed down by by-laws that the age requirement is 21
for a petition. Which also throws doubt onto your legitimacy.

So, even at it's finest point,
there are holes in this thread
which lead to red flags
of concern.

so mote it be

Past Master

edit on 2/10/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

THIS GUY IS NO MASON!

Originally posted by Bkrmn
reply to post by SirKnightE

 

Many thanks for that most interesting post! Regarding all those who want to know any possible secrets held by the Masons, or any other order or club for that matter, become a member of the one that interests you most! Plain and simple! I'm not a member of any organization myself, and have always believed that the rules and/or secrets of any order are simply none of my business! As far as a N.W.O. goes, it's my personal feeling that this is what it will take to get our planet and the human race back on track again. Perhaps it's T.P.T.B. who over the years and even centuries, have had most to do with the mess we are in, and we have now reached a point where a One World Government will be more acceptable worldwide.

I would like to know what the best way would be to exterminate those that would try and bring about a world government?

There's no validity to this site, there's way too many fruit cakes, loonies, and chain pullers on here.

A chance to speak but in a virtual public hall, where there is no inhibitions.

I guess this is a Bull Sh_tter's Breakfast.

reply to post by hawaii50th


It's like walking through a garden decorated with the things from your sub-conscious when it is allowed to decorate the landscape without direction.

Most of it ranges from sublimely insane, ugly, tacky, to plain silly. But every now and then, something interesting is displayed in a way that could be improved on, shows a spark of genius, or is a diamond sitting in a pile of fertilizer.

And as you critique it, you can learn figure out what is right by identifying for sure what surely isn't.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
reply to post by SirKnightE

 

well I was a lil taken back by this thread
for many reasons.

First, was the notion that maybe your brother told you this info
"On the Square". If that be the case, then you have betrayed
your friend's trust and confidant and not worthy to be called
a brother as you have broken your oath. If this info was NOT
shared on the square, then please disregard #1.

Second, you have already given more than enough info
about yourself to be found should the need ever arise for the
craft to do so. That should not be considered a threat by
me, just an acknowledgment of the facts presented.

Third, I would like to remind you of your oath once again
and it's implications. An oath cannot be rescinded even
if you leave the fraternity for any reason.

Fourth, IF this story is true (which I have doubts) then maybe
your loyalty has been tested and we see the results of
that test. A loyalty test is given to those whom have
aspirations of the 33Deg. It would seem that you may
have failed miserably in that regard.

Fifth, I do not think a 32Deg Mason would be privy to such
info as you are displaying in this thread. Which brings into
question your motives for doing so.

Sixth, no Masonic Organization that I am aware of allows
an 18 yr old to be initiated, passed or even raised. As it
is passed down by by-laws that the age requirement is 21
for a petition. Which also throws doubt onto your legitimacy.

So, even at it's finest point,
there are holes in this thread
which lead to red flags
of concern.

so mote it be

Past Master

edit on 2/10/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

Yeah because some symbolic signs tokens and bloody oaths and penalities in a craft that doesn't even resemble the art of actual masonry (stone brick and block construction) is more important then the fate of humanity....

Oh lord my God! is there no help for the widow's son...

reply to post by SirKnightE



"Don't divulge anything, unless it puts lives at risk not too."

You are still upholding the oath... But with that said you do have some holes in your story...

ok so i know nothing about freemosonry but i did see a big flaw in ur story, u were saying how u wanna stay anonymous but then ur write enough of a backround story for even me to track u down..

if what u say is true u should be more careful

Originally posted by boondock-saint
reply to post by SirKnightE

 

well I was a lil taken back by this thread
for many reasons.

First, was the notion that maybe your brother told you this info
"On the Square". If that be the case, then you have betrayed
your friend's trust and confidant and not worthy to be called
a brother as you have broken your oath. If this info was NOT
shared on the square, then please disregard #1.

Second, you have already given more than enough info
about yourself to be found should the need ever arise for the
craft to do so. That should not be considered a threat by
me, just an acknowledgment of the facts presented.

Third, I would like to remind you of your oath once again
and it's implications. An oath cannot be rescinded even
if you leave the fraternity for any reason.

Fourth, IF this story is true (which I have doubts) then maybe
your loyalty has been tested and we see the results of
that test. A loyalty test is given to those whom have
aspirations of the 33Deg. It would seem that you may
have failed miserably in that regard.

Fifth, I do not think a 32Deg Mason would be privy to such
info as you are displaying in this thread. Which brings into
question your motives for doing so.

Sixth, no Masonic Organization that I am aware of allows
an 18 yr old to be initiated, passed or even raised. As it
is passed down by by-laws that the age requirement is 21
for a petition. Which also throws doubt onto your legitimacy.

So, even at it's finest point,
there are holes in this thread
which lead to red flags
of concern.

so mote it be

Past Master

edit on 2/10/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)

Wow this is what masons are like.. Sounds like a psuedo religious cult similar to scientology where you're brainwashed to believe you should put yah fellow robe wearing weirdos before your fellow man. The best thing you could do is break free of this cult and it's wierd ex masters and assorted bretheran.

These people are nutters and the following rant from one of their past 'masters' should make it self evident. An oath means nothing in the real world when lives are at stake and these sick people need to tear themselves away from silly rituals and childish secrets and realise this!

Thankyou for deciding to share this information.

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by hawaii50th

 

It's like walking through a garden decorated with the things from your sub-conscious when it is allowed to decorate the landscape without direction.

Most of it ranges from sublimely insane, ugly, tacky, to plain silly. But every now and then, something interesting is displayed in a way that could be improved on, shows a spark of genius, or is a diamond sitting in a pile of fertilizer.

And as you critique it, you can learn figure out what is right by identifying for sure what surely isn't.

edit on 2011/2/11 by Aeons because: (no reason given)

Yes that's true too. About the diamond, sitting in a pile of fertilize is putting it mildly

I call BS: Your no mason and your no brother.

I would reveal all secrets that could save innocent lives, I wouldn't care what my lodge or fellow masons would think of me. I would sacrifice my life to gain freedom for humanity.

reply to post by Serizawa


That biggest load of crap you will read today.

And OP surely you will post your lodge number for me.

Remember - life starts after 33 (years and degrees)
Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by fianna
reply to post by Serizawa

 

That biggest load of crap you will read today.

And OP surely you will post your lodge number for me.

Why are you going to execute the penalty for violating his oath?

Originally posted by Serizawa
I would reveal all secrets that could save innocent lives, I wouldn't care what my lodge or fellow masons would think of me. I would sacrifice my life to gain freedom for humanity.

I completely agree. I can not believe other masons (obviously they like submission and hate freedom and love) are attacking the guy.

reply to post by fianna


I hope you were not referring to my post. If indeed you were, You do not know me and as far as I can remember we have never interacted on ATS.

reply to post by SirKnightE


You know, OP; when you say 'If you know better than me, good for you.. leave you to give your powers as you see fit'... ummm... ignorance is bliss or what? Open mind and critical thinking... Just because you 'believe' something, doesn't mean it's right. So until your belief is a 'know' and no longer just 'belief', perhaps an open mind would be much more productive? If you are not in a constant pursuit of proof in your beliefs, then, what are you doing? Oh, I see... you are a part of this design, eh? Guess you didn't figure that part out yet? Well, hopefully this will help open your eyes some? Brotherhoods, secret societies, or what have you, are formed for one reason only. To benefit it's members. That in itself is an illustration of corruption. I'm sure you know if you were at a job, and your boss is a mason, you are a mason, and your coworker is not... a position becomes available, and even if the coworker is a better fit for the position, you know you have that edge. That is corrupt. Maybe not Bernie Madoff corrupt, but corrupt none the less.
Unfortunately, as it seems, people seem to think life was always this way, and 'this is how it's supposed to be' or something... Like this is some sort of golden age? Ha... We've reached a plateau, and defunct organizations such as the one you participate in, are doing whatever it takes to keep the balance of power in their favor. It appears they are even tightening their grasps as well. I'm sorry I am coming off cocky, but this is very aggravating to me. My great grandfather was a 32nd degree mason, so it's in my heritage, but I strongly disagree with any 'society' that gives special privileges to fellow members, just because they are in the same stupid club. How about helping each other out because we are ALL PEOPLE! WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING - HAPPINESS. 1 world... 1 goal... all people.... happiness. Now I KNOW what I just said was right... do you KNOW what you are participating in... is all RIGHT? Think it over.

As a former soldier in the Army myself, I can honestly say (since this info is allegedly coming from a 1SG) that this sounds more like a call to organize fellow soldier-masons than anything, not really a Masonic secret.

Truth be told, the OP was the only new info I've heard from a mason posted on this entire thread. EVERYTHING that has been posted has been talked about in books and TV specials. (Really... if you think the term "Widow's Son" is a secret still, you must be as old as Moses.) Most of these secrets have been well publicized already, so to argue about them is pointless rhetoric, in my opinion.

I know enough about Masonry from my own personal studies to be able to pass the first 3 "trials" without studying. How is this possible? Because if you look hard enough, you can find almost anything on the internet. (I will not post links to these sites out of respect to the Masonic order. I hope to become one eventually)

If you truly wish to keep things hushed... when someone starts talking about "secrets" ignore them. Don't get upset about it... if it really is a violation of Oath, then report it. If you "think" it is a violation, then research into it further... then decide whether to report or ignore. Either way, you put a block up without exposing your own desires. (Psychological Ops 101: Never reveal your true intentions until the very LAST minute.)

if it really is a violation of Oath, then report it.

REPORT IT ? Hello are you grown men or at junior high ?
"I must report this they are breaking their oaths "

Grow up ! This is real life were talking about and i'm afraid humanity is more important than a damn social club .
Ps just though id mention that this thread has proved further that you people cannot be trusted.