Possible Ghost at Steeler Party?

Long time watcher, infrequent poster.. Anyway.. here's the scoop. My buddy buys this house a couple of years ago and apparently someone died in the basement of old age. We know she was older and very religious but not much more. He told me when he bought the house the basement was setup as a bedroom and there was a ton of religious stuff all around which he threw away. I've been there a bunch of times to watch various games and about a year ago he tells me he thinks the basement is haunted.. I am naturally interested but didn't really believe him.. I've got to see things for my own eyes to believe generally. Anyway, we were sitting there and he was telling me about what he has perceived as the ghost of the woman that used to live there.. He tells me how he will hear random noises and how the TV in the corner (small, unused) randomly turns on and goes to the religion channel.. I find it all very interesting but nothing happens.. then about a month later we are there and we are joking around and tried to get the ghost to do something.. We attempted to invoke her.. or it.. and i swear on my soul that the TV turned on and went to the religion channel... I thought it was him, i tracked down the remote.. it was there, right in front of us.. he didn't touch it.. we didnt even notice the TV was on at first.. so weird..

anyway, last sunday (go steelers!) we were watching the game and his girlfriend wanted to take a picture of us because she thought we looked cute.. so she does and this is it..

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S&Fed

Very interesting pic you snapped there. What type of camera was used ?
Have you tried to capture a EVP while attempting to invoke her (it)

I look forward to following this thread.

Thank you for posting.

I assume the ghost in question is the misty looking thing at the bottom middle? IMO it's probably either flare of something, or more probably simply the piece of clothing or even a finger, half in frame but so close, with the focus on the bar, it becomes indistinct.

It could also be a ghost! Sweet basement in any event

you could always check the room for interference, malfunctioning devices can put off frequencies that mess with computers, tv remotes, locator beacons, etc. that could explain the tv going on and off. As for it always changing channels to 1 specific channel, that's weird!

But as devils advocate......

When I was a teenager living at home we lived in a town house. It's a 3 story building with several units side by side. My room was closest to the next door unit. I had a old, oh maybe 15" tv? We had basic cable split to all the bedrooms. One day I turn the TV on and go toward channel 13 (was a quasi local station at the time atv/asn in eastern canada). By mistake I go to channel 14, i can't remember what that was I'm thinking a french channel but I can't remember.

Once on channel 14 I noticed something, well first I noticed it was playing a movie. Can't for the life of me remember which one, but it had John Candy in it. the weird thing was my TV showed the channel in the upper right corner with bright green digital type font, but I was seeing that showing 14, but in the left hand corner, in white color, I see a channel in the 20s. I wait a minute and it starts changing, I'm still on 14, but the white number is moving up into the pay-tv range (needed a set top box with separate remote) in the 30s and 40s.

Eventually I had to go do something and turned the TV off, and just like those times you magically get a scrambled porn channel to come in clear, it never happened again. Do this day I can only assume, some how, I was getting interference from the other units cable, or satellite for that matter, don't know.

But the image of my tv in green saying channel 14, and watching the other side flipping channels, never left me.

Thanks for posting, my first guess would be the pittsburgh penguins "mirror" . or at least I am assuming it is a mirror. more than likely the flash reflecting back. but maybe not.

Looks very cold in that room .

It's a fingerprint smudge. I frequently take fingerprints in my line of work. No doubt in my mind.
Check out the ridge detail in number 92's back the finger then smudged toward the bottom left of the lens.

No ghost I'm afraid.

I'm really not afraid because there is no ghost!

Thanks for the replies.. to answer the questions posted.. It was taken with an iPhone4. There isn't a mirror to my knowledge anywhere near where the picture was taken.. that pittsburgh penguin object on the left of the pic is a banner and is non reflective. honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that i've seen weird stuff happen down there before i wouldnt have taken the effort to post it here.. its very strange indeed. we took many more pics that night so that eliminates any smudge possibility.. and the girl that took that pic knows how to take pics with the iPhone

go steelers

can't blame someone wanting to watch from the afterlife


be good

Originally posted by BadBoYeed
go steelers

can't blame someone wanting to watch from the afterlife


be good

The only thing this being wants to watch is the religion channel.. and on the smallest TV in the bar Oh, and its very warm down there.. the pipes for the radiators are above our heads and they keep the bar nice and snug.

Originally posted by palg1
It's a fingerprint smudge. I frequently take fingerprints in my line of work. No doubt in my mind.
Check out the ridge detail in number 92's back the finger then smudged toward the bottom left of the lens.

No ghost I'm afraid.

I'm really not afraid because there is no ghost!

I too am well versed in fingerprints (criminal forensic major)...I too see a fingerprint and the ridges are very defined.

Im going with fingerprint and not a ghost. Sorry.

its a sign, its telling you, GIVE UP YOUR EVIL WAYS AS A STEELER FAN!!!!!
-steeler hater for life

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by palg1
It's a fingerprint smudge. I frequently take fingerprints in my line of work. No doubt in my mind.
Check out the ridge detail in number 92's back the finger then smudged toward the bottom left of the lens.

No ghost I'm afraid.

I'm really not afraid because there is no ghost!

I too am well versed in fingerprints (criminal forensic major)...I too see a fingerprint and the ridges are very defined.

Im going with fingerprint and not a ghost. Sorry.

edit on January 25th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

if it were a fingerprint, don't you think the other pictures taken that night would have the same "smudge"? We took tons of pics that night and this is the only one with a smudge. Furthermore, the case i have on my phone pretty much prevents your finger from touching the lens so thats really not what happened.. Good guess tho, it was my first as well.

Furthermore, if it were a fingerprint, it would be impossible for it to appear on the lens of an iPhone4 given the fact that the lens is about 1/4 the size of even a child's fingerprint.

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I agree that it would be very difficult to have a fingerprint on the lens of an iphone4, and besides that, the "mist" seems to go all the way over to the left of the pic... not just there in the center. If the pic had been taken with a full size digital camera, the fingerprint theory would make sense. Also, with the lack of a flash, there shouldn't be anything that is reflecting on to the lens. The numbers on the jerseys look to be reflective, but in the absence of a bright light, they shouldn't be able to show as such in the pic. Was there perhaps another bright light behind the lady taking the pic?

I'm not saying it's paranormal, although it very well could be, but I doubt that it's a fingerprint. I respectfully disagree.

I actually just tried to make a fingerprint on the lens of my phone and yeah, just backs up my theory that it's not a fingerprint.

Could be the old lady herself! Cool pic!

Circles is the core of the print - looks to be a plane whorl or a central pocket loop

The arrow points to the ridges - the type lines, bifurcations

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The light is probably a smudge.

An iPhone lense is not too small to hold a fingerprint.

But if im wrong, I look forward to be shown why

Excellent reply.. yes I see the print you are talking about but its not the portion of the image I'm referring to.. The "ghost" is at the bottom of the image.. I want to add that its strange that the fingerprint you are referencing stops at the top of the jersey of #92.. is it possible the material of the jersey is simply portraying this pattern upon closer inspection?

is it possible the material of the jersey is simply portraying this pattern upon closer inspection?

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My thoughts exactly. I don't see fingerprints... I see the print of the jersey.

I think I'll run the pic through some filters and see what I come up with.

Maybe Ben Roethlisberger left some "ectoplasm" on the lens.

I dont see a fingerprint - I see the tiny holes in the football jerseys.

The brighter portion (head ?) is interesting, you can even see the hair line/forehead.

OP could you post another similar pick from the same scene you say was taken that does not have the smudge ?

Okie doke. Here we go...

First of all, I checked the exif data and the flash was used, so I think it's likely that it's only a reflection on the lens from the numbers on the jerseys. That doesn't mean I'm right though... just stating all the facts.

Here are the enhancements I made. I really can't see a fingerprint, and to show that a fingerprint would be very unlikely on the lens of an iphone 4, let's see a pic of the camera...

Notice how the lens is deep set into the phone. I think it would be very difficult to get any kind of fingerprint on there, and even more difficult since the OP states that the phone has a protective case on it.

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Here are the various enhancements... they don't really accomplish anything other than showing that there is more than likely not a fingerprint.

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So, there we go. I'm sure those don't help much, except to maybe show that the fingerprint "ridges" were likely from the pattern on the jersey. If you look closely, the jersey has diagonal lines on it, or the material is made in such a way that it looks to have diagonal lines on it.

My best guess is that it's a reflection from the flash on the jersey numbers. I really wanted it to be the old dead woman. I can see what another poster said looks like a forehead and hairline (or something to that effect, lol), so I hope I'm wrong.

Originally posted by brigand
Excellent reply.. yes I see the print you are talking about but its not the portion of the image I'm referring to.. The "ghost" is at the bottom of the image.. I want to add that its strange that the fingerprint you are referencing stops at the top of the jersey of #92.. is it possible the material of the jersey is simply portraying this pattern upon closer inspection?

edit on 25-1-2011 by brigand because: (no reason given)

Would the print of that jersey be going diagonally in respects to the horizontal nature of the numbers?

I think the fabric would go left right, and not diagonally...