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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
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But then again, and think about this, when I bring this thread up twenty years from now....and NOTHING happened....what do you think I knew that you didn't? Nothing. I merely have a grasp of common sense, reason and logic.....and unfortunately that wins 99.9999999% of the time and it will win here.
Stick around this subject for 20-30 years and tell me if you would dare post this same thread? No offense intended, but we all go through this development stage....shame it has to be so public....
and said again near the end
I guess to start this off I have to say that this is all conjecture and I do not have any solid evidence of any of this, but hopefully putting it out there more people can help produce supporting evidence.
This is the Alien/UFO forum, remember? Way out-there-possibilities, ideas, theories, and questions about the subject are all welcomed and talked about, sometimes even heralded. You saying your common sense, reason, and logic (we'll abbreviate it C.R.L from now on) allows you to know (well, as you said, you're correct 99.999999% of the time that you know nothing will happen, specifically the OP's topic) more than others is just plain ignorant. I think its your lack of imagination and not being able to think outside of the box that is holding you back . Then you question the OP if he would post the same thread in 20-30 years? Really? I dont see the logic in this. Why wouldnt he post the same thread in 20-30 years? Because to you it sounds crazy or you KNOW he'll be wrong? You must know something we dont know right? You see the ignorance in what you're saying, dont you?
Again this is mostly speculation and conjecture on my part but I'm sure there is other people that would agree with me that this is a possibly.
Originally posted by ziggyproductions05
(snip) there really isnt a huge difference being an overzealous skeptic or an overzealous believer as they both hurt the field(snip)
Originally posted by Pimander
Originally posted by ziggyproductions05
(snip) there really isnt a huge difference being an overzealous skeptic or an overzealous believer as they both hurt the field(snip)
This is true. Both operate using double standards. They tend to be uncritical of anything that supports their view and demand impossible levels of proofs from the opposing viewpoint. Of course impossible levels of proof are... impossible to obtain. Both approaches are unscientific and neither leads us any closer to the truth.edit on 24/1/11 by Pimander because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Unity_99
Originally posted by Pimander
Originally posted by ziggyproductions05
(snip) there really isnt a huge difference being an overzealous skeptic or an overzealous believer as they both hurt the field(snip)
This is true. Both operate using double standards. They tend to be uncritical of anything that supports their view and demand impossible levels of proofs from the opposing viewpoint. Of course impossible levels of proof are... impossible to obtain. Both approaches are unscientific and neither leads us any closer to the truth.edit on 24/1/11 by Pimander because: (no reason given)
(snip)
However, these positions are not equal, and usually those who believe have reason to, ie. sitings, dreams, inner nudges, experiences, and more, and very good logic and deep thinking on the possibilities and potentials. Whereas the skeptic really has only belief, its not logical either.
Originally posted by Unity_99
If both just believe their cases without deep thinking, skywatching, observation, and in one side, sitings and contact, then maybe they might be similar in simply having strongly held view points. However, these positions are not equal, and usually those who believe have reason to, ie. sitings, dreams, inner nudges, experiences, and more, and very good logic and deep thinking on the possibilities and potentials. Whereas the skeptic really has only belief, its not logical either.