Standard Operating Procedure MUST SEE!!!!!!

Is it possible for a photograph to change the world? Photographs taken by soldiers in Abu Ghraib prison changed the war in Iraq and changed Americas image of itself. Yet, a central mystery remains. Did the notorious Abu Ghraib photographs constitute evidence of systematic abuse by the American military, or were they documenting the aberrant behavior of a few bad apples? We set out to examine the context of these photographs. Why were they taken? What was happening outside the frame? We talked directly to the soldiers who took the photographs and who were in the photographs. Who are these people? What were they thinking? Over two years of investigation, we amassed a million and a half words of interview transcript, thousands of pages of unredacted reports, and hundreds of photographs. The story of Abu Ghraib is still shrouded in moral ambiguity, but it is clear what happened there. The Abu Ghraib photographs serve as both an expose and a coverup. An expose, because the photographs offer us a glimpse of the horror of Abu Ghraib; and a coverup because they convinced journalists and readers they had seen everything, that there was no need to look further. In recent news reports, we have learned about the destruction of the Abu Zubaydah interrogation tapes. A coverup. It has been front page news. But the coverup at Abu Ghraib involved thousands of prisoners and hundreds of soldiers. We are still learning about the extent of it. Many journalists have asked about the smoking gun of Abu Ghraib. It is the wrong question. As Philip Gourevitch has commented, Abu Ghraib is the smoking gun. The underlying question that we still have not resolved, four years after the scandal: how could American values become so compromised that Abu Ghraiband the subsequent coverupcould happen? Film by Errol Morris

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reply to post by Illuminati_2012


i would like to put this in perspective so everyone gets it. If you become a prisoner of war in any country where soldiers are guards and who have know people who have died fighting these people you are going to have these type of things happen and if you think any country is different your a fool. Should we conduct our selves better yes but hate begets hate. Do you think the Chinese wouldn't put bamboo spikes under your finger nails, Brittan is know for their devices during the middle ages, how about France lol. Name me a country that hasn't done this to its prisoners. Don't be a fool before cameras became so readily available on everything i bet you would have seen all sorts of stuff. The only reason they are sorry about it is because they got caught and rightfully so because even they know it sheds a bad light for enlistment and duty due to fears of the enemy capturing them and doing worse. But i think most people know that just because you conduct your self in a proper manner doesn't mean the enemy will the world isn't fair and i think you forget just what they did to that poor guy who was BEHEADED on live tv these bad guys had their pride stomped out and are still alive so in actuality they are lucky we are not like them.

War is hell, no one denies that. The problem is that America has been fighting for so long that it has forgotten what it was fighting for. Some may claim it is for democracy, peace, terrorism, profit or a handful of other slogans but the reality is that it is just stuck in the motions, build weapons, find an enemy, blow stuff up. The American economy is based on it as it spends as much on the military than the rest of the world combined. For the solider on the field it is soul destroying, buddies splattered right next to you and some one has to pay. For anyone to stand up against an invading force is an honourable thing to do no matter what side of the line you are on. But why are you there in the first place? The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is a scam, the evidence is plain and clear for anyone who looks. Emotion has been whipped up and people are blind to the reality, it is not longer about people but missions and targets. As the truth was masked, reason became treason and the fear of extraordinary rendition was supported to hold the line, but what line? People abducted on hearsay, doors kicked in and family's threatened as society fell apart in a manic rage unleashed by a pack of lies. There was no real enemy, just a job. Reason begets justice, the dark ages are over.

reply to post by pcrobotwolf


2 wrongs don't make a right.

Anyways these prisons are designed to create next gen terrorist leaders. Kids are locked up without trial for years... Seriously sickening what the US is and has been doing for the past decades.

Don't worry it'll all come back. Difference will be that the general US population never suffered like the population of the countries they illegally invaded. Ah well for everything a first....

reply to post by Illuminati_2012
Thanks op for this post ..I like ,many will contemplate this doc. and try and consider that,yea there were some people that got thrown under the bus.....Its too bad... in a way some of the people involved seem to still have some integrity and that is a good thing that they will be better equipped to pass on to the next generation ...possibly little Carter ...who knows ...peace

reply to post by no special characters


this is warfare not a kid fight in the 3rd grade. That kind of logic only works within a society the idea of war its self is an eye for an eye lol. They attacked us and we attack them, they chop off our heads we simulate drowning keep them awake for hours on end and all sorts of non lethal tactics. Its people like you that get people killed.Do you think the soldiers are like well they shot at us but hey 2 wrongs don't make a right lol no they light them up. Do you think when prisoners act up our own prisons don't do anything because two wrongs dont make a right?No they get sent to the hole. These people killed Americans or tried too. They don't deserve to be released and they don't deserve compensation for their time spent in prison because they got treated unfair. What they should get is beheaded on national tv on Al Jazzera so their whole family can watch. Or dragged through the streets of NY and let the 911 family members stone them to death but no obama gives them millions of dollars and says sorry.

reply to post by pcrobotwolf


So a few mercenaries beheading a US citizen gives a government the right to keep someone locked up for years without trial ? Obviously you can't think straight because of your emotions.
Your remark "Its people like you that get people killed" is that of a school boy. If you are going to claim you are an adult it's even worse I imagine.

Try for once to look at the lives of these men that you so blindly hate and place themselves in their shoes... perhaps then you can gain a new perspective on justice and h!w it has to apply to all of us..

regardless.