New World Order ="good"

My desperate try at this simple fact again.

NWO, illuminati, freemasons, etc... are not out to HURT YOU. They are not out to do you harm. I will keep it simple this time.

1. By choosing to live you must accept the fact that there is RISK in nature/life.
2. By choosing to live in a community (giving up the need to hunt, find shelter, etc on your own) you must accept that you are now playing in someone elses created playground/shelter.
3. The NWO/illuminati/etc NEVER NEVER NEVER force you to watch tv, believe in the books they print, eat the food they provide, or drink their water.
4. There is no such thing as brainwashing the average citizen. People WILLINGLY CHOOSE to watch tv and believe in what they see or read. ITS A CHOICE
5. Wars are fought by your NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR (not the illuminati). WHO pulls the trigger? (Ive never seen bush/clinton hurt anyone). They only create a story that the masses CHOOSE to believe in (the masses believe this because it fits into their psyhe) and the masses willingly CHOOSE to pull the trigger.

JUST to point this out. Im aware of all the info out there. I know how amazing it is. I get that the elite/media "lie" or fabricate or it was an inside job or false flag operations and commercials brainwash and bla bla bla
and YES ITS ALL TRUE
but
at the end of the day, its the individual that CHOOSES to stay asleep.
The masses LOVE THEIR ARTIFICIAL WOMB
The masses NEED THEIR ARTIFICIAL WOMB
The masses ASKED for THE ARTIFICIAL WOMB
The masses MAINTAIN the ARTIFICIAL WOMB that is called country/state/society/nation-state/civilization

reply to post by MrJelly


Personally I do not think there is one flavour of New World Order..

In my very simplistic mind I see it this way*... Gordon Brown wanted his NWO based on his ideals, Obama on his ideals and Hu on his ideals, and the same theme runs around our little planet

(expand to include any group you like, but the theme is the same.. no one universal flavour)

And while I might think my version of an NWO will be benevolent, it will not seem benevolent to all, and there in lies the main issue..

Man is not ready for any next New World Order..

Perhaps after an end of the world doom type scenario then perhaps man might welcome another New World Order, but until then I feel we'll continue bumbling along butting heads with each other on who's New World Order is better.

BTW, my flavour of NWO is best

reply to post by MrJelly

I have to agree with you on that. The vast majority of the population really does need someone or something to tell them how to think, and the gov't knew that and capitalized. But that doesn't mean that it's a good thing.

They can take their "new world order" and stuff it... Its my life and I live it on my terms answering to none ..

Originally posted by Expat888
They can take their "new world order" and stuff it... Its my life and I live it on my terms answering to none ..

I 2nd that emotion
star 4 u

just wait til they get to the one world religion part.
eyes will be wide open

There is one thing that has always made we wonder about NWO's methodoligy.

These are people who (I think) would not want to cause themselves overall harm, and their families.

What if, there is some great secret (perhaps something to do with 2012 or such), that they are enlightened about, and there are necessary changes that MUST take place by X time in order for our civilization to progress.

What if an alien race was going to show up and transport us off world, But .... we had to prove that we are a civil species capable of nonviolence? Would it be possible that a NWO would help this come about?

One thing I know for a fact, living without a NWO has not been a peaceful eutopian world. Now, I'm not saying that NWO is what we need, I am just saying that perhaps there are factors that are unbeknownst to ourselves.

Originally posted by MrJelly
2. By choosing to live in a community (giving up the need to hunt, find shelter, etc on your own) you must accept that you are now playing in someone elses created playground/shelter.

The government is suppose to work for the population of its country, every tax penny they spend is ours, we are not born into a country as a slave of the government.

Originally posted by MrJelly
5. Wars are fought by your NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR (not the illuminati). WHO pulls the trigger? (Ive never seen bush/clinton hurt anyone). They only create a story that the masses CHOOSE to believe in (the masses believe this because it fits into their psyhe) and the masses willingly CHOOSE to pull the trigger.

Bush on 9/11 was a lye that the masses did beleive. And i think youll find alot of people did get hurt because of it.

3,000 in the US on the day, and about 110,000 in iraq/afgan since, i wouldnt say that is good.

Originally posted by MrJelly
3. The NWO/illuminati/etc NEVER NEVER NEVER force you to watch tv, believe in the books they print, eat the food they provide, or drink their water.

I liked your point about people not being forced to watched their propoganda on the tv, i think you missed the point though, alot of people do because they dont realise its a bunch of garbage and dont question it, but aswell who really has the capability to grow there own in food in their garden, and who can afford to buy that bottled water stuff. We dont really have much choice.

reply to post by Expat888


But you dont and its not "your life".
you only think you do. You only think its your life.
fact remains.
in the words of VAST
"strange how the houses look exactly all the same. And your just a slave like me atleast I know its true"

reply to post by boondock-saint


all religions are the same. the difference between any religion, doesnt matter if its judeo-christian or eastern or even atheist(yes being an atheist means you believe in certain things, therefore making you just as foolish as any other person who buys into any book) all are the same
they have the same purpose.
You all need to stop your david icke, and infowars crap.
the new world order is not only here but has been here for a long time.

think about it. No one gives a crap about you. the nwo could care less who you believe in... its not about you its about nature. ILLUMINATI=extension of nature
as long as you dont eat all the food (which the masses do often without contributing) they wont need to eliminate you.

oh but I forget you want to fight and win back your so called freedom lol

Originally posted by MrJelly

NWO, illuminati, freemasons, etc... are not out to HURT YOU. They are not out to do you harm. I will keep it simple this time.

Correct. People fail to realize their choices affect each other and tend to externalize their inner demons as something beyond their control. [Brain stopped thinking, here].

reply to post by Spinster


WRONG
1. just because it says in text books that government are suppose to do this or that doesnt mean #. lol.
a hierarchy kind of society is not natural to begin with. However, just to point this out... government is there for you or not makes no difference. The masses "hire" the government to do things they could never do but want to be done. FOr example, the masses WANT WAR and the masses WANT to kill (thats why they WILLINGLY JOIN THE ARMY) but want to put the blame on someone so there is the gov

2. Okay your 9 11 stuff....I mean really. bush lies. WHAT? oh no..a leader LIED? boo hoo. go tell the teacher.
wtf is this. THIS IS THE ExACT REASON WHY the NWO exists. coz of people like you with your fair and whats right attitude. THIS IS NATURE> cold, hard, rough.

EXAMPLE= IM at a bar before the last pres elections. This chick says "who are you voting for" I say "no one, I dont vote" she goes crazy and says to me "IF you dont vote, you cant complain for the next 4 years".
lololo. That is HOW THE MASSES think. BLAM BLAME BLAMe.
so keep blaming away

3. there is ALWAYS choice. the masses WILL NOT EVEN TRY TO grow their own food or live on their own. REmember, MOST PEOPLE ARE ON WELLFare. THey have half of their house paid for by the gov, their Direct TV is paid for by the gov. and they rest of their check they take and throw away at the casino or on shiny toys.

You are a fool if you think the average person does "realize" or "isnt aware". Deep down they are ALL aware.

go read Silent Weapons for QUiet wars.
ITS ALL IN THERE

Originally posted by MrJelly
My desperate try at this simple fact again.

NWO, illuminati, freemasons, etc... are not out to HURT YOU. They are not out to do you harm. I will keep it simple this time.

Control. They are not out to hurt us but they want to remain superior to us and that is unacceptable. In order to form control they must harm us and show us there is much to fear from our neighbours and that our neighbours want to hurt us. So anyone who resists gets labeled an enemy and that is how they are portrayed in the media. Thus giving us an illusion of an enemy so we can fight to destroy them.

The problem is that regular citizens will one day be portrayed as the enemy and the citizen will be destroyed.

1. By choosing to live you must accept the fact that there is RISK in nature/life.

Your point? Does that mean they will prevent the RISK from happening? Accidents happen and nature happens. Am I scared? No. Do I want someone regulating my life so there is an illusion of security by giving what little freedom I have left? No. I will live my life cautiously on my own, I don't need elitists doing that for me.

2. By choosing to live in a community (giving up the need to hunt, find shelter, etc on your own) you must accept that you are now playing in someone elses created playground/shelter.

I will gladly live in a community of farmers if the time came when I had to. I will gladly work for food, water, and shelter and help the community. I will be providing the community with as much benefit as they will provide me. I will gladly hunt, farm, or haul water for miles to survive. But I will not be ruled by tyrants!

3. The NWO/illuminati/etc NEVER NEVER NEVER force you to watch tv, believe in the books they print, eat the food they provide, or drink their water.

If they didn't force us than they would be out of business. They make it easy for us to choose their product because they mass produce it and undercut any competition. Low income families have no choice but to purchase the cheap stuff. FYI, it isn't their water it is OUR water. They may provide food but food competition is bigger than water. Cities own water and citizens own cities, therefore citizens own the water. Granted there is bottled water competition but tap water is the country's. When they begin to monopolize tap water that is when we will stand up.

4. There is no such thing as brainwashing the average citizen. People WILLINGLY CHOOSE to watch tv and believe in what they see or read. ITS A CHOICE

I agree, but if elitists are as great as you present them to be than they wouldn't put crap that rots the mind. They would help elevate the nation rather than provide crap on TV. That just shows in the end they only care about profit and not your well being.

5. Wars are fought by your NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR (not the illuminati). WHO pulls the trigger? (Ive never seen bush/clinton hurt anyone). They only create a story that the masses CHOOSE to believe in (the masses believe this because it fits into their psyhe) and the masses willingly CHOOSE to pull the trigger.

It is kind of hard not to believe when the person you elected is telling you to bomb this country or that country. The man you elect backed by the powerhouse propaganda media machine can sway anyone to go anywhere. The masses put their trust and engage in an utmost good faith type of deal so when a president tells people this nation will kill us many will believe. They don't CHOOSE they are TOLD to believe and are provided with evidence that the CIA could have easily faked.

JUST to point this out. Im aware of all the info out there. I know how amazing it is. I get that the elite/media "lie" or fabricate or it was an inside job or false flag operations and commercials brainwash and bla bla bla
and YES ITS ALL TRUE

That is where you seem to be choosing the sheep life. They brainwash, they murder, they lie but I am ok with it and you should be too. After all brainwashing, lying, killing, conflict of interest, inside jobs, corruption, greed, and etc. don't hurt anyone right? You really aren't making sense by trying to explain it in simple terms. How about you try explaining it to me in the most complex way you know so I can break that down and show you why you are wrong.

but
at the end of the day, its the individual that CHOOSES to stay asleep.
The masses LOVE THEIR ARTIFICIAL WOMB
The masses NEED THEIR ARTIFICIAL WOMB
The masses ASKED for THE ARTIFICIAL WOMB
The masses MAINTAIN the ARTIFICIAL WOMB that is called country/state/society/nation-state/civilization

So how does any of this make a NWO regime good? You have wasted a full thread on trying to show the NWO being the good guys but failed miserably.

I will leave you with this thought:
If history repeats itself; if greed, lust for power, and the ego; if humans have the same drive as they did 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago, what makes you think that a tyranny dictator type of regime won't prevail when the NWO come to be? Do we think any differently now? Do we care more about each other now than 100 years ago when Hitler rose to power?

Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You are naive in thinking that handing all power to people will not lead them to go mad.

reply to post by MrJelly


Before you start going on about the 'goodness' of nwo, try to learn about psychopaths, and then come back.

And just in case you did not get from the first read what I said, I repeat:

Before you start going on about the 'goodness' of nwo, try to learn about psychopaths, and then come back to this thread to apologise for your folly.

oh yeah, NWO is great.

This forum is so full of disinfo and BS it's unreal.

NWO, illuminati, freemasons, etc... are not out to HURT YOU. They are not out to do you harm. I will keep it simple this time.

I agree with that but you have to separate the water from the oil NWO and the Illuminati are benevolent while the freemasons are not they have been corrupted by the OWO which you people consider as NWO here. Think about it if we could only knew what came before wouldn't it be much clearer? How did NWO came about if there was no OWO? My point is we don't have NWO yet what we have is the OWO of those 13 powerful bloodlines. What we need is NWO where everyone would be equal and our government would change from being democratic to being meritocratic where every one would be able to go as far as they can (if they can) unlike in a democratic government you won't go as far as you can unless you are born rich or have connections with the powerful etc. Please understand this what we need is the NWO.



Please check the link to understand what I'm trying to say.
armageddonconspiracy.co.uk...

The original planner of the new world order. He is still very busy. The video below opens with him speaking about 9/11. The in another clip he is giving a video resonpse to a recent new world order agenda meeting via video. Anyway his world view is clearly pointed out in his own words, so watch the entire video to hear it. If any of the videos do not start double click on them and watch them on you tube.





If any of the video do not start double click on them and watch them on you tube.

Originally posted by Lateralussicksicksick

I agree with that but you have to separate the water from the oil NWO and the Illuminati are benevolent while the freemasons are not they have been corrupted by the OWO which you people consider as NWO here. Think about it if we could only knew what came before wouldn't it be much clearer? How did NWO came about if there was no OWO? My point is we don't have NWO yet what we have is the OWO of those 13 powerful bloodlines. What we need is NWO where everyone would be equal and our government would change from being democratic to being meritocratic where every one would be able to go as far as they can (if they can) unlike in a democratic government you won't go as far as you can unless you are born rich or have connections with the powerful etc. Please understand this what we need is the NWO.

Please check the link to understand what I'm trying to say.
armageddonconspiracy.co.uk...

Thankyou for your extremely insightful post, I would love the idea of a NWO to come about like this.
I personally think that the OWO has been around since the Spanish Inquisition but I think there has been arguments, awareness of the population and threats between their very own familys which is why they are planning for a NWO with much more controlling governments. Although this could be "our time" to gain control back, maybe with a little hand from mother nature.