Could you survive without your gadgets?????

Lets assume that terrorists or military powers destroy all electrically operated systems using some form of EMP weapon.

Satellite communication is down, vehicle's, cell phones, satnav, powerstations and all your microchiped creature comforts.

Could you actually survive?
Do people know how to live off the land??

Could people handle the mass looting, riots, and chaotic social collapse??

How long could you survive and what survival techniques would you use?

What defence strategy would you adopt to protect you and your loved ones??

Would this be a bad thing to revert back to a simple existence??

Would it cause social breakdowns and rioting??

Originally posted by stewalters1
Could you actually survive?
Do people know how to live off the land??

A breakdown in society means I'm dead within weeks.
Same with millions of others. Why? Because we are completely depended upon Big Pharma.
I cant' live without medications now. Neither can those who suffer severe illness' like -
diabeties, heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer, etc etc.

It'll be like the old days .. survival of the fittest (which is good for the species)
or perhaps survival of the best connected in the New World Order of Chaos.

Either way .. I'll die a miserable death and so will millions of others.

Not sure if i posted this in the correct forum.

I apologise if this is in the wrong place

reply to post by stewalters1


Personally, I think I would thrive without my gadgets. However, it would take everyone on the planet to give up their gadgets and revert back to nature to maximise our human instincts. We have been over-modernised and forgotten that we are just another animal on the planet. It's terrible when people get killed by big cats or sharks etc so we have to hunt down that animal and kill it but this is nature and should be expected... the sooner the apocalypse comes and removes the virus of humanity from the planet, the sooner life can resume as normal for the rest of the species.

I kind of digressed there didn't I? Sorry

reply to post by FlyersFan



I am sorry to hear that your dependant on medicine.

You understand this thread is merely hypothetical and i am not suggesting this will happen.

reply to post by fiftyfifty




I am not so sure i could handle it, in the recent freeze we just had in the uk our water pipes froze and we were in a rite old mess!!!

I have been trained in survival techniques but not sure if i could live without my creature comforts

reply to post by stewalters1


I sometimes wish I could go back to the days prior to gadgets. The days before smartphones and apps, laptops, wi-fi etc etc.

I think to some degree technology has made humans lazy. I also think to some degree it has made us stupid. Arguments aren't settled by quoting from books, it's done by quoting Google results.

If a plug was pulled tomorrow and everything went down, there would be mass hysteria. Within a week people would turn on one another in a quest to survive.

Look how crazy people go here in the UK when snow hits. It's like we've never experienced snow and ice before - like it is a foreign concept and we don't know how to cope. Did our ancestors worry back in the day? Hell no, they got on with things, rather than saying "I can't work today, my car won't start." "I won't be in today, the trains are cancelled."

I try not to put much stock in technology as I know the potential is there for it to fail. There's ways around things without relying on technology or gadgets or gizmos.

Although I totally understand FlyerFan's point on medication - not necessarily a gadget, but plays a big part in keeping people well and alive.

reply to post by ALadInsane




I agree to that in away but it's the little things like tinned foods and tin electric tin openers, airconditioning, hot running water hygiene products,

The idea that we could go hunt food in the woods and lakes and oceans for ourselfs sounds very appealing in theory but in practice it's a ball ache that most people either could not due because they dont know how or just can't be arsed

reply to post by stewalters1


Have you seen the survival thread on here? Links to PDF's of various survival guides and how-to's. Really useful and would possibly come in handy in the event of a big switch off.

Admittedly I had to rely on technology to download and print them out :¬)

I live next to a mountain where there is plenty of game and I know how to hunt, so food wouldn't be an issue. It typically rains more in the mountains, so water wouldn't be an issue unless of course it was some kind of fallout associated with this attack.

Shelter might be more of a problem...

I think something that would actually be a good idea is for people to have a portable DVD player and some way to keep it charged and have every damn series of Man VS Wild and shows of that ilk ready to go in your emergency bag

"I'm Bear Grylls, and I have the same mouth and speech problem as Christian Bale! I'm also an Adrenaline Junky and will show you how to kill any animal with nothing but your teeth and and a pack of Stride, mate!"

Originally posted by ALadInsane
reply to post by stewalters1

 

Have you seen the survival thread on here? Links to PDF's of various survival guides and how-to's. Really useful and would possibly come in handy in the event of a big switch off.

Admittedly I had to rely on technology to download and print them out :¬)

I didn't know there was a survival forum..... I do know because the moderating people just moved the thread here. And you just told me lol

I think the OP is muddling up different issues. 'Gadgets' is one thing. Overall loss of electricity is an entirely different matter.
Lots of us already do without most gadgets very well thank you. And believe it or not, some of us grew up in a time without TVs, washing machines, fridges, central heating and air conditioning.
But if electricity goes completely, think no manufacture, no fuel, no medical operations... There would be terrible suffering and loss of life. Of course there would be looting and general mayhem. The cull of humanity due to a myriad reasons would be awesome. For the few that survive, life will be hard and life expectancy will be short. The 'golden age' will not be arriving any time soon.

reply to post by starchild10


Yes sorry i ment everthing that requires electricity or a microchip operating device

An EMP weapon would wipe out all computers and microchips.

So one would assume that power from power stations would cease due to them being mostly computer operated. So electricity is gone, anything else that could run off batteries or solar i assume would have a microchip control device which also wouldn't work.

It would just be humans no gadgets, power or cars because most cars have an ECU or EMD.

I would welcome it, tough I would miss the internet. At least the PTB would have a much more difficult time screwing with those of us who were left. I wish I had been born around 1860-70. Back then you actually owned your land instead of just renting it from the government.

reply to post by sonofliberty1776




I was just discussing this with my wife, i asked if she could kill, bleed, gut and skin a wild animal.
Her response was " absolutely not". Thats probably the same response of half the planet!!!

People wouldn't want to kill to survive. This is quite shocking.

If people wouldn't kill an animal to save themselfs from starving what chance do people have in tge event of a big switch off?

reply to post by stewalters1

That would be one of the reasons that a multitude will die in the event of an emp attack. I finished reading 1 second after not long ago. It dealt with this very scenario. I highly recommend it for some light reading.
en.wikipedia.org...

Depending on if i survive the first six months or so, then yes i probably would be able to. Even the most die hard of people who depend on the sort of modern, technological society we have created would adapt quite quickly...of course as i said that depends on surviving the first 6 months to a year of a SHTF scenario, those first months would be the hardest. Humans have came this far because of our adaptability...that hasn't just 'gone away'. Of course those who are severely ill and dependent on medication would die in in the first few months. And stewalters, your wife would kill, skin and eat an animal if she needed to...she simply has the luxury of saying she wouldn't right now.

I.m like Flyersfan - without meds I'm sunk.
Otherwise I could get on just fine having worked on survival skills for over 40 years.
Best way to survive a TEOTWAWKI is to stay hidden, avoid making fires, move at night or through thick brush.
Avoid conflict by avoiding contact.
Learn your wild edible plants and how to make good snares and shelters.
Beyond that be able to procure safe drinking water.

No, I don;t need any gadgets to survive, but a good knife is hard to create from rocks.

reply to post by Asktheanimals


Hard but not impossible to make a knife from scrap metal. There would be tons of scrap metal around. My question is...why wouldn't you have a knife? I always(almost) have one on my person. Only when I am flying do I not have one. I am leaving that job as soon as I can, but no later than the end of this year.