Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Used to stand behind the Man. Now..dunno. Check out the tone of content on US President Obama's Exec Orders...
The Exec Orders you don't here about from Blitzer & Co.

Decoy

So many people will just be jacking others wifi signals.. wont work.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


They really will do anything in their power to slow down the progress of truth that anonymity and collaboration has provided us with. This disgusting show of rhetoric would cause what I believe to be the step that changes everything.

No longer would we be able to communicate freely amongst opinions, ideas, and commentary without fear of apprehension and label.

The ideas are quite far-fetched indeed, but can happen.

S&F

reply to post by _R4t_


I think you are closest to the truth about the ID, but what no one has mentioned on here, and its lack of mention really concerns me, is biometrics.

One way or another, all forms of identification can be hacked, will be proven unsecure. Whether that happens by design or otherwise is irrelevent.

Biometrics IS the identification of the future. And by biometrics I mean fingerprints, rentinal scans, and DNA all read by a single machine so it cannot be 'hacked' by gummi bears, or nefarious means such as taking out someone's eyeball.

Everything else is designed for three things:

First and foremost, these other forms of identifiying people is merely designed to buy time for biometircs to get to a point where it can be rolled out seamlessly and effeciently.

The second is to get people used to giving up anonymity and privacy for a false sense of security.

The third is for these other forms to fail spectacularly so there is a reason for them to be replaced.


All of this is to prepare for a form of neo-feudalism that ties us back to the land and won't allow us to leave. The end of tying people to the land and a master spelled the end of a style of totalitarianism that even communism and fascism couldn't replicate.

Internet access/privacy is going to be the least of our concerns for our children.

- mike

An Internet ID? Now that's a "Pure-D" censor-driven policy. You don't need an "ID!"

This needs to be handled exactly like Citizen's Band Radio.

Instead, just update the type to Citizen's Band Internet; censorship of a free medium is unwise. Enforcing people to obtain an "Internet ID" would be like "tagging" a group of people (citizens of a country) for surveillance.

It's actually ironic, that if a person were "off the radar" and didn't resort to using the internet, would be a more worry-some situation, I would think?

reply to post by trekwebmaster


I can see some good from this in the form of preventing Fraud but....

But like everything else, it won't be the primary use for this technology, and after all there should be more Good guys than Bad Guys using the Internet so who are you really watching.

The way I look it, if you were trying to create a One World Order, the Internet is just making it harder with People Publishing secrets or Videos before any Plans can be Implemented. The Digital ID will not only allow the Government to find descenters but eventually lock you away with all the Proof tied to your ID.

Secure Internet is one thing, but having the Government controlling it that's just Insane. And any Future Government can change these Laws as to how they are used at the Drop of the Hat

You can NOT use the Internet, but with no way of contacting large numbers, the Government has still won and you can't stop them.

Doesn't Obama have another vacation due soon
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Note: I wanted to add the below info to Obama’s Internet I.D = National Identification Card but I was afraid of derailing my own thread.

One thing ATS has taught me - we should always imagine the unimaginable.
Going a step farther with that - I’m of the opinion if I can ‘imagine it’ I have no doubt they already have.

What can I imagine will happen with this Internet ID- rather - the new ‘spin‘ Universal Internet ‘Token‘?

Forcing the use of electric money.
With the crash of the dollar (some believing to be imminent) the transfer to electric money is made available and ready via Internet ID. And what they give they can take away. You don’t play by ‘their’ rules? You don't buy, sell, etc.

Incurring a system of penalization for Internet users.
Not only does this apply to the above ‘imaginings’ but reaches far into our rights of Freedom of Speech, Right to Privacy, and more.

Added note - the Government already has the authority to get a warrant for peoples email, etc. So why the ID? Doesn’t make sense. But from there standpoint it makes every bit of sense. Why? With Internet ID the government will:

Such licenses will be revoked for anyone who engages in “hate speech,” which is now so broad a term that it encompasses offending anyone on the Internet.

source

There goes Freedom of Speech.

Also, with your Internet ID Token - (Think money people) - It will be far easier to implement Internet Taxes. You know - just like that [other] ‘voluntary’ Federal love-joy - TAXES.

Destroy the open and free market - once again ‘big’ business crushing the little guy.
If you run a home business and do not require the use of the Internet ID on your site? Your business/site is gone.
If you refuse to use Internet ID? Then you’ve no www.yourhomebusiness to begin with.

So there’s just a few more reason to oppose the Internet Token = National ID Card/Token

Oh and by the way - don't you just love the lie!

“There will not be a single data base for this information,” McConnell said.

_R4t_ You asked ‘who’ would pay for the thumb scanners if the Universal Internet Identification Card/Token uses thumbprint recognition in order to function.

I direct your attention to the new digital television system.
You want to watch television? You bought a new one or got yourself a converter.
Pretty simple that.

peace

Check out my post at the Turton thread.

It links her husband with a company that could monitor end-users passively:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

- mike

You guys are still hand wringing about this, when it already exists, and you are using it right now.

How can you go this far into this discussion, with this many words, and have missed the very fact that you are already using the thing you are complaining about???

I don't get it.

reply to post by FlyingJadeDragon


The Ultimate Tyranny
"Now let us advance a few more years into the future. Cognitive implants are now ubiquitous, required in fact in order to survive as all life support mechanisms (sustenance, shelter, information access, transportation, etc.) respond only to the individual digital signatures implanted in our brains and speaking directly to our conscious and our subconscious. This direct access to the psyche could easily be hi-jacked by a well meaning government intent on identifying abhorrent thoughts that could lead to anti-social behavior, correct the "illness" as it occurred through electrical stimulation of certain neural pathways - yes thought control - for the greater good. The need for dual or multi party systems will have been eliminated because dissension is also anti social. People will be happy. People will be peaceful. People will be free to do whatever it is they are told to do and love it. Now that's Tyranny."
(www.humansfuture.org)

NOTE: I DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP!