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Originally posted by Cassius666
All doctors in a healthcare field get a basic education, then they specialize at least it works that way here. With the many factors involved you would want a wide field of expertise. Herrit is a chemist for example.edit on 8-1-2011 by Cassius666 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lambros56
reply to post by okbmd
The BBC reporting building 7 coming down before it did proves my point.
The reporter in New York and the guy back in London BOTH reported building seven collapsing at least 20 minutes before it came down.
That`s no accident......it was fed to them.
Why some people don`t see anything strange in that is beyond me.
Originally posted by okbmd
Yes , as well as the intell agencies .
By a group of hardcore muslim extremists , who succeeded in hijacking commercial airliners and using them as weapons of mass destruction .
Hmmm , fancy that ... nothing like getting caught with your pants down ...
Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by ANOK
There is only one way all four outer walls can end up ON TOP of the rest of the collapsed building.
No , this fallacy has been proven wrong to you in these threads more than once . You only persist in repeating this mantra due to a biased perception of reality .
Originally posted by okbmd
Really ? Someone should relay this to those entities who have sat on them for years .
What is the purpose of disarmament , if that is the case ?
Or , were you referring to the terrorists who acquired airplanes and used them as WMD ? In that case then , yes , you are correct . They used them immediately .
Originally posted by Cassius666
reply to post by GenRadek
Yes those wicked ae911 guys and their hidden agenda
Originally posted by GenRadek
Correct, a basic education.
That is what A&E911 is. A motley collection of people with different backgrounds, that when looked at closely, have no real relevance to understanding the complexities behind the engineering feats of the WTCs, and their collapses. A home interior designer is not going to get you anywhere in trying to understand the design complexity of the WTC Towers. A mining engineer is going to have what "specialty" to bring to the WTC debate? How to tunnel under the towers?
Can you not see the outer walls in this pic?
Originally posted by okbmd
Yes , I see portions of the facade , but ONLY portions.
WTC 7 was roughly 610 feet tall , 330 feet long , and 143 feet wide . So , let's see ... that would mean that there was roughly 577,060 square feet of surface area representing the facade , or outer walls .
To be fair , WTC 7 was configured in a trapezoidal shape so , I will allow for a moderate deduction in this calculation .
This still would leave us looking at roughly 500,000 square feet of outer walls .
Now , are you going to tell me that you see a half-million square feet of wall structure on top of that pile ?
No , you do not . Therefore , your claim that all four wall structures landed on top of the pile is false .
SOME of the wall structure landed on top of the pile , not ALL of it .
Your assertion that it fell into it's own footprint is also negated by the fact that the Verizon building , as well as Fiterman Hall , incurred substantial damage from the collapse of WTC 7 .
so there is nothing to compare with for how much the debris would spread outside of its footprint.
If the collapse was natural there would be NO outer walls on top of the debris pile.
Where IS your debunking?
Originally posted by okbmd
What should the debris field look like after the implosion of a 47 - storey building ? Seeing that you admit that you have nothing to show in the way of comparison , why would anyone believe that you should know what the debris field should look like ?
Sometimes, though, a building is surrounded by structures that must be preserved. In this case, the blasters proceed with a true implosion, demolishing the building so that it collapses straight down into its own footprint (the total area at the base of the building). This feat requires such skill that only a handful of demolition companies in the world will attempt it.
Blasters approach each project a little differently, but the basic idea is to think of the building as a collection of separate towers. The blasters set the explosives so that each "tower" falls toward the center of the building, in roughly the same way that they would set the explosives to topple a single structure to the side. When the explosives are detonated in the right order, the toppling towers crash against each other, and all of the rubble collects at the center of the building. Another option is to detonate the columns at the center of the building before the other columns so that the building's sides fall inward.
There is no fallacy in my argument. It's not about knowing what the debris field should look like.
You have yet to address the actual physics I presented that proves the outer walls can not be on top of the debris pile in an uncontrolled collapse.
The whole point of controlled implosion demolition is to land the majority of the building in its footprint.
This is done by forcing the outer walls to fall inwards by dropping the middle of the building first. Unless that is done the outer walls will fall to the path of least resistance, outwards as the rest of the building falls behind and over them.
Sometimes, though, a building is surrounded by structures that must be preserved. In this case, the blasters proceed with a true implosion, demolishing the building so that it collapses straight down into its own footprint (the total area at the base of the building). This feat requires such skill that only a handful of demolition companies in the world will attempt it.
Blasters approach each project a little differently, but the basic idea is to think of the building as a collection of separate towers. The blasters set the explosives so that each "tower" falls toward the center of the building, in roughly the same way that they would set the explosives to topple a single structure to the side. When the explosives are detonated in the right order, the toppling towers crash against each other, and all of the rubble collects at the center of the building. Another option is to detonate the columns at the center of the building before the other columns so that the building's sides fall inward.
WTC shows all the characteristics needed, the 'penthouse kink', the one wall we see in that vid falling west into the center of the building.
There is no other way that can happen.
If you know a way you should contact Demolition.Inc for a job.