perpetual motion, page 2

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Earthscum

Oddtodd, thanks for reminding me of that. There are also light activated hall-effect switches out there as well, but those suckers are expensive.

Basically, imho, I'd go with automotive parts (you could even concievably use used parts from a junkyard as long as you get all the components from the same types of vehicles (for compatibility).)

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Maybe just the sensor that goes into the block ?

I have a distributor , so I am not sure . Junkyard dog it !

Earthscum

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 12:41 AM

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oh yeah... I forgot, the reasoning for SCR's is 1) they are simple to use and incorporate into a system, and 2) use relativly low power. Converting a small amount of AC to DC (enough to run the switching circuit) is also easy, and should put very little drain on the system. The constant-on thing isn't much of a problem if you print the circuit right, and as an added bonus you can just plug them into a breadboard and go do some pretty kewl stuff with relativly little electronic experience (believe me, lol... I'm by NO means an electrical engineer!). At least it would be a starting point... BUT

I'd go with the hall-effect switching, since it is designed for exactly the purpose needed here

oddtodd

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 12:47 AM

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Here is a link to the stuff ES and I were talking about : photo , hall , and a reed switch .

www.gatewaynmra.org...

Also , how bout an old magnetic spedometer for a bike , same concept , cheaper parts .

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Earthscum

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 12:47 AM

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the parts you would need are located inside the distributor. You'll know if you found a hall-effects distributor because the 'rotor' is a disc with a slotted skirt, which has a sensor on either side. When an opening passes, the light can shine through to the other side and activate the switch. If you do go the route of using this, you will definitly want to make a new axle system. Distributors don't have ball bearings or even needle bearings. They have a solid bushing that has a certain tolerance that allows the pressurized oil from the engine to lubricate it. Without this system, you will have so much drag and will eventually scuff and marr the bushings and they will no longer be free to spin. Have fun! (sometimes I really wish I owned my own junk yard... my GF claims I do, but I just pack-rat everything, lol!)

oddtodd

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by Earthscum Distributors don't have ball bearings or even needle bearings. They have a solid bushing that has a certain tolerance that allows the pressurized oil from the engine to lubricate it. Without this system, you will have so much drag and will eventually scuff and marr the bushings and they will no longer be free to spin.

A magnetic"hover" type bearing would cut down tons on the resitance , could't get any work or energy out of it , but it would spin without friction.

oddtodd

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 12:57 AM
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Aw hell Earthscum , lets just you and I make one , pack rat here also...

XL5

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 03:40 AM
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Yup, I'm also a pack rat. I bet my pile is bigger then yours J/K.

junior_smith

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 09:18 PM
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i actually devised one myself which is much cheaper and can help my thing to get started with the aid of a solar panel and some capictors. what i will do is just hook up an arm off the piston which i can use to use as a switch. it works and it much simpler and cheaper

oddtodd

posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 10:50 PM
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You designed what ? A switch ?

Is your doohickey going to charge the capacitor ? I had a similar idea myself...

NothingMakesSense

posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 08:47 AM
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To my understanding the definition of a perpetual motion machine is something that only requires energy once and after that never, ever needs energy put into the system again. Does yours do that?

junior_smith

posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 06:38 PM
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yeah but as i was told in this thread, perpetual motion machines need to start themselves, so my machine will use large capicitors filled up by a solar panel.

someone should really outline the rules of perpetual motion machines much better

hablivilah

posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by junior_smith
i have this design for a perpetual motion machine (i know that it is suppossed to be imposible but to my knowledge it works)

is any one there an engineer or machinest because i need to know a question regarding cranks and such just fine details

-Graham

No reputable engineer would help you make a perpetual motion machine. They are Impossible. Better you should go out and tend your garden, At least you might be able to eat from it.

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XL5

posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 05:10 PM
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