Are Flying Saucers Real? By J. Allen Hynek

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
flying saucers are not real.

Hyneck criticizes the scientists who take that position without doing the research

Hynek, from the OP article:

The general view of the scientists was that UFO's couldn't exist, therefore they didn't exist, therefore let's laugh off the idea. This, of course, is a violation of scientific principles, but the history of science is filled with such instances.

This scientist thinks he has an explanation for flying saucers:

Feynman - The Likelihood of Flying Saucers

Is he right? I'm sure Hynek would say he's not being very scientific.

There has never been a such thing as a flying saucer in the history of life. Just ask Kenneth Arnold, the very first person to see a Triangle space ship ,in which the media / government turned the greatest wonder of ufology into the greatest indirect secret pertaining to ufos.

The triangle has and always will be the only thing that fly’s pertaining to ufos.

1. The three lights that make the triangle are not lights but engines.
[3 engines that can be controlled separately as 3 engines.]

2. There are 2 types and only 2,the reptilian/grey race and the Triangle wasp race.

3. There is no such thing as a cigar shape ufo,they are only looking at the triangle from one of the 2 sides of the triangle the side or the back.

4. If u listen to exactly what Mr. Arnold said, it had nothing to do with a saucer in which was nailed in the heads of the world for more then 60 years.

5. When u see multiple 1light/1engines ,those are probes.

6. When u see these multiple ONE lights/ engines [probes] ON VIDEOS flying and disappearing ,they are flying straight into the cloaked triangle and landing inside ,but because of the chemicals that are sprayed in the air for the triangle race not to abduct humans no more, they cannot LAND and continue with there horrific experiments when abducting like they used to in the past. U will see probes flying on the outside out lining the triangles shape in videos. Example
( phoenix lights )

7. Triangle probes fly fast and are not limited in speed or distance.

8. The reptilian probes are found close to water and do not have the speed and distance as the triangle probe.

9. The triangle space ship is 120 yards to 140 yards in length give or take 30 to 50 yards as the position I was located in., from tip to back u could fit 9 to 12 727 airplanes inside of it.
To be honest the triangle is the same height and width of the great pyramid.

10. It was along time ago when the reptilian race had to go underground due to a fire that engulfed the earth. At this point in time they went underground taking with them the cave men who have entered your history as big foot.
Big foot is only the evolved caveman that went underground with the reptilian race.




11. The 3 engines under the triangle are not lights, but 3 engines that can be controlled in 3 separate ways, this is the reason why they are able to do what they do as far as maneuvering.
12. When you look at videos on u tube with night vision pay attention for now on to ..the ‘3 star method’.
The three star method of detecting the triangle is very easy, so when you see these videos for now on. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE SINGLE ENGINE PROBE THAT THE USER IS LOOKING AT AND THEN LOOK VERY CLOSELY AS IT DOCKS INSIDE THE TRIANGLE.’ DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE VIDEO PERSON AND WHAT HE OR SHE SAY AFTER THEY LOSE SITE OF IT…REWIND IT, AND LOOK VERY VERY CLOSELY AS TO WHERE IT STOPPED. you will be amazed at what you see.

13. Baghdad Egypt and Syria are the ONLY stepping stones of proof and history dealing with the triangle wasp race.

14. India Mexico china and 56% of the east has the first footsteps of the reptilians /grays.


15. WHEN abduction stories ARE told 20 to 30 years after, with horrific experiences, its the triangle race.

17.The stories told whenever remembered with a figure leading them. LEADING THEM by hand, and giving them info are the reptilian race.

18.NOW,over the last 15 years it seems that the reptilian race have taken with them the evolved cave men , these are the stories now in which a blond or long haired tall giant figure will be with them.

Look up Kenneth Arnold and listen, I don’t know if it was the media that created saucer.....or the first big cover up in the history of your planet as far as ufo.

by the way, Roswell happened 2 weeks after Mr. Arnolds story.

Greatest secret ever told to humans.
1. The Triangle spaceship is the exact same length as the great pyramid.
2. That ONE pyramid was built by MASS telekinesis before the frequencies around the earth was destroyed. By the building of that specific pyramid it blocks the frequencies all humans had at one point.
Ps. If you ever had a dejavue then you know about the frequencies that some times flows through the whole earth.
3. They are using your own frequencies against you all in movies .
4. There has ,and never will be a saucer ship.
5. Noah was a triangle alien.
6. The same ship Noah used to replenish this earth later became the city from Atlantis and later on it ended up in Germany .
7. That same ship taught Germans everything they know about rocketry and quantum physics.

ps please look up keeneth arnold and read his story and listen and learn how quick the goverment covered the real ufo up.

by the way ,kenneth said "it skipped like a disk across water'

This kenneth arnold sighting is the first sighting of a triangle in our history,please get rid of the saucer and lights and ufos as big as texas.

lights shall not be used any more,they are engines underneath the triangle.

Single engines/lights are only probes.

I personally believe that they do exist,I also believe that the vast majority of these "discs" are "ours" I don't go along with the back engineered theories though,I think that the development of eletrogravitic systems and mass minimalisation technolgies ,for example,are of purely earthly origin along with the alloys that enable these craft to withstand extreme temperatures.
You only have to look at the work of scientists and engineers such as Tesla,schauberger,Miethe etc to realise that their theories/models have been perfected and have evolved continuously.look at silverbug for example,in the late 50's early 60's that thing was reportedly capable of mach 3.5 plus level flight speeds ,to me believing that this concept has not evolved is naive at best.
IMO the alien angle was a pure invention of government agencies to cover up this revolutionary technology. Roswell was most likely an errant (possibly anglo,anglo/canadian) disc that went dumb and crashed(after p*ssing off the USAF by buzzing their seemingly secret nuke equiped bomber base!) Would have loved to have been there when the Roswell security people arrived on the scene to be confronted by an English speaking very human crew!