Ahmadinejad Is Right

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by psikeyhackr
Yeah, we need an investigation to know that skyscrapers must hold themselves up and that the designers of skyscrapers must figure out how to distribute the steel to make them hold themselves up and withstand the wind.

Of course people with PhDs in physics can't figure out that skyscraper designers had to do that.

psik

Thats because PhD's and designers worry about how to distribute the loads, not the building materials.

ROFLMAO

You mean the steel on the 95th level that is holding the live load on the 100th level isn't part of the dead load that has to be supported by the steel on the 75th level?

The steel has to hold itself up. It is part of the LOAD too.

That is part of the trick of figuring out how to distribute the steel.

psik

reply to post by Cassius666


Good point.

reply to post by psikeyhackr


Again, the loads are distributed, not the building materials. Its not about distribution, its about reaction.

reply to post by WashingtonGrewHemp


Did it not occur to any of you that Ahmadinejad wants you all to turn on your country and you are all doing so. An investigation even if it was found to back the governments own theory (which IMO it would) would still be damaging to your country and your people.

For arguments sake, lets say there was a thorough investigation and the people win. The government has been found guilty of spreading a mountain of lies to cover the fact they killed innocent americans for oil. What happens then? Nobody respects the government anymore, who do you trust to run the country? What wouls Ahmadinejad do? Send some of his brand spanking new nukes while you all squabble about a teenagers theory that was posted on youtube.

Im not having a go at anyone or trying to stuir things up. I just genuinely want to know how people feel it would help and what would happen after an investigation regardless of the outcome.

reply to post by jexmo


You may be surprised how mainstream the "truth movement" has become. Both Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul (not sure if you follow American politics) have called for 911 truth in some form, and both acknowledge that the War in Iraq can not be legally tied to 911, making it an illegal conflict. You might want to watch this video of Kucinich, Congressman from Ohio, addressing his supporters:


Remarkable, still, is the fact that the Tea Party Movement has many members calling for 911 truth. The Tea Party received 1 billion dollars in earmarks this year, which basically means the USA is no longer a 2 party system.

A real investigation would probably reveal that Mossad and the CIA were responsible for 911 and it was a false flag operation, because things do not add up and the 911 Commission was pathetic. Basically, preventing our leaders from manipulating the masses via Satanic acts should be prevented at all costs.

reply to post by WashingtonGrewHemp

You may be surprised how mainstream the "truth movement" has become.

To say the least. Love to know what you consider "mainstream".

Both Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul (not sure if you follow American politics) have called for 911 truth in some form, and both acknowledge that the War in Iraq can not be legally tied to 911, making it an illegal conflict.

Kucinich and Paul? That's mainstream? The War in Iraq may not be universally popular, but it is legal.

Remarkable, still, is the fact that the Tea Party Movement has many members calling for 911 truth.

Not really remarkable, the Tea Party has a lot of people calling for a lot of strange things, one of their "leaders" just recently suggested that the right to vote be restricted to just property owners.

The Tea Party received 1 billion dollars in earmarks this year, which basically means the USA is no longer a 2 party system.

I really don't know what you mean here.

A real investigation would probably reveal that Mossad and the CIA were responsible for 911 and it was a false flag operation, because things do not add up and the 911 Commission was pathetic.

Or not. More likely not. In fact, gauranteed not.

Basically, preventing our leaders from manipulating the masses via Satanic acts should be prevented at all costs.

Satanic acts, huh? Don't even know how to repsond to that.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by psikeyhackr

 

Again, the loads are distributed, not the building materials. Its not about distribution, its about reaction.

The building material had WEIGHT. It becomes part of the load on the building material below.

It is called DEAD LOAD.

The CN Tower is almost all dead load and the way it had to be distributed can be seen from the outside.

www.youtube.com...

psik

reply to post by hooper


what country are you from? Do you follow American politics?
2nd

Originally posted by WashingtonGrewHemp
reply to post by hooper

 

what country are you from? Do you follow American politics?
2nd

US of A. All my life. Follow politics quite closely. Studied Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania.

Nothing you said is true. The "9/11 Truth Movement" is synonymous with "tin foil hat" in American politics and culture.

Originally posted by hooper
Nothing you said is true. The "9/11 Truth Movement" is synonymous with "tin foil hat" in American politics and culture.

My life proved that electronic mind control was being used in schools in london in 1992, so it must be also going on in usa schools. So you know where you can stick comments like tin foil hats, as such things do not work.

Amazing how you went to uni, but i and others found more truths than you in life, strange that.

reply to post by hooper


And yet here you are commenting on a conspiracy theory message board. Don't you think your claims clash with the tradition of ATS being a platform for advocates of alternative theories? We'll see what happens politically in 2012 soon enough.

reply to post by andy1033

Amazing how you went to uni, but i and others found more truths than you in life, strange that.

How do you know you found "truths"? How do you test for truth?

reply to post by WashingtonGrewHemp

And yet here you are commenting on a conspiracy theory message board.

Among other things.

Don't you think your claims clash with the tradition of ATS being a platform for advocates of alternative theories?

No.

We'll see what happens politically in 2012 soon enough.

No, we'll see what happens in 2012 in, well, 2012.

reply to post by hooper


nice job needlessly quoting me.
hahaha

the fact is
there has been NO definitive investigation for one obvious reason.
911 was an inside job.

GZ Rescuer: ‘WTC 7 about to blow up’ ...
....Rescuer 3: "The building is about to blow up. Move it back!

killtown.blogspot.com...
( gee no wonder NIST stood on the release of these videos....
First person testimony - the truth,
kinda makes them look like a complete waste of time and money!!!!! )

You can dance around with the debunkers in an endless waste of time,
but the fact is;
everything the US have said
about Ahmajinedad, or 911, or NK officially have all turned out to be lies...
( like the report showing the Chousen torpedo is GERMAN, what was it HITLERY said?)
In fact, the U$rael turns out to be lying everytime the proof about anythng comes out..
( the reasons for war, the inflation statistics, the vote counts, take your pick...)

A lot of innocent CHILDREN, WOMEN, AND MEN, and Americans are dead because of it.
their resources stolen...their lands unlivable because of chemicals, and DU...
their children mutant monstrosities...
Even one thid of the female soldiers have been raped by their own countrymen...
American children are getting sexually molested just going to grandma's house...
over thirty million foreign invaders have safely made it to their objectives...
yippeeee
Ahmajinagad is such an a$$.....
lets bang some more CIA heroin right into the ol' eyeball....

The U$ just gave trillions of tax dollars to various totally dishonest recipients....
who of course are getting rich perpetrating these lies.....
the best debunkers money can buy


sure, poke fun at Ahmajinadad
thats MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE then a PROPER INVESTIGATION.
which you aren't going to get....
Because Americans and the actual people of the world don't deserve the actual truth
because they are TOO STUPID...

and the whole world has noticed and all the dumbass punk talk in the universe isn't going to change the fact,

PS
the governments of Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, all operated the same way as America is today
wake up

reply to post by jexmo


It occurred to me, yes. But it also occurred to me that (paraphrasing Dennis Kucinich now) in retaliation for 911, we (the USA) attacked a country that did not attack us. We were never able to prove there were WMD's, or that they were a threat to us in any way. The fact is that most terrorists are from Saudi Arabia. So I'm not quick to jump on the bandwagon that everything in the mainstream media can be trusted.

reply to post by WashingtonGrewHemp


So Jews did 9/11 and blamed it on the NWO?

Alot of his comments & statements are calm, collected and logical. Its a matter of what the media report says, how you interpret the report and whether there is a logical argument based on information/evidence which isnt mainstream to support his statements.

Simply because I acknowledge the validity of some of his arguments, that means people will call me an enemy of the US. George Bush said once that if you arent with us, your against us. The act of questioning the US in semi-support of their 'enemy' based on valid arguments, directly makes you their enemy. Given these circumstances, its impossible to argue for/against without being branded an enemy at some level.

The lack of freedom to have open debate when it involves an 'enemy' of the US is a concern.