US Claims Wikileaks Is Breaking The Law

Looks like the US is very nervous about this one.

www.abc.net.au...

The United States has rejected talks with WikiLeaks over its planned release of confidential US documents, saying the whistleblower website is holding them in violation of US law.

The US State Department set out its position in a letter to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and his attorney that was released to the media.

"We will not engage in a negotiation regarding the further release or dissemination of illegally obtained US government classified materials," State Department legal adviser Harold Koh wrote.

"As you know, if any of the materials you intend to publish were provided by any government officials, or any intermediary without proper authorisation, they were provided in violation of US law and without regard for the grave consequences of this action.

"As long as WikiLeaks holds such material, the violation of the law is ongoing."

WikiLeaks is expected to put online 3 million leaked cables covering US dealings and its confidential views of other countries.

Many fear it will embarrass the United States and its allies and reveal sensitive details about US relations with other countries.

WikiLeaks has not specified the documents' contents or when they will be put online.

But the website has said there would be "seven times" as many secret documents as the 400,000 Iraq war logs it published last month.

Senior US officials have already warned about the dangers of leaking the documents.

They are...

American law as defined by the laws that Govern America and its people.

Of course you are free to agree with those laws or not.

MM

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A terrorist is..whatever we say is a terrorist.

I hope they are not setting us up for a big disappointment(intentionally preempting it's greatness so we will be disappointed) ..The last leak was shocking..and no one in the M$M even cared. They didn't even wish to discuss the contents.

Please be something that is too big to be swept under the rug..but given the how underwhelmed the masses were with the last bombshell...nothing may be too big for the tptb to sweep it..wherever they wish.

Peace

I fully agree with some of their statements....

"As long as WikiLeaks holds such material, the violation of the law is ongoing."

Release it already wikileaks.... we're waiting with suspense..

www.abc.net.au...

"As you know, if any of the materials you intend to publish were provided by any government officials, or any intermediary without proper authorisation, they were provided in violation of US law and without regard for the grave consequences of this action.

Emphasis mine.

There are government officials that are elected and there are those that are not.... At the end of the day who do you think has the most power?

Some government agencies are immune to US and even international laws. Or they have no fear of them because they have powers that cannot be challenged... But "wikileaks" can be.

The US government needs to realize that wikileaks is not their enemy, it is just a vehicle for the advancement of covert agendas, some of which may include exposure of corruption and "dirty little secrets" to make changes none of you or us can possibly understand.

Government created this beast and they can't kill it, nor stop it. At least they have a clever target in wikileaks.

Does anyone know of an anticpated release date?

The suspense is killing me.

Just hope it doesn't turn out to be a fizzler.

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Mid sunday was the last i heard

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Come on? thats the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? The US goverment is putting itself up as a goverment who never has and never will break any any other countires law???? what a lof of ********. the devil playing the role of the saint I reckon.

Think of this as a dot - I get the impression from the US goverment statement that they seem to be implying that they should be able to grab any person from any country in the world if they want them because they have broken a United States law.

Think of this as another dot - Do I smell an international traeaty to this effect in the air in the near future???

What exactly what did Hillary Clinton and the Gillard Goverment discuss behind closed doors during Hillarys recent visit to Australia??

I bet the next dot will be such an anouncement - watch this space.
cheers

I've heard this from someone (on this site) ; "The truth is crime in the land of the lie." (or something like that)
So true.

Shock Headline: "American Government in Hypocritical Warning!"

If America wants individuals to recognize their laws, they have to recognize international law. Which they don't.

Pretty much every member of Congress and the Senate, and every member of the Whitehouse including the current President, and the last few Presidents, and the CIA break the law several times a day.....so what's with the big deal about Wiki allegedly breaking the law? Isn't that what you guys do all the time, Mr. President?

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Laws are selectively enforced, and always have been. Its why police are called law enforcement.

Originally posted by acrux
Does anyone know of an anticpated release date?

The suspense is killing me.

Just hope it doesn't turn out to be a fizzler.

I believe it will be released late Sunday - I am guessing it will be included in the print run for Monday's newspapers, so will probably be released online then.

Ultimately, the federal government is in a bind. Somehow I think it knows and has a good idea as to what is in the documents, and can not afford to have such released, at the same time, nor can it stop the releasal of such. It is bound by the Pentagon Papers decision by the Supreme Court, where in that decision, the Supreme Court stated that the person who gave the papers was guilty, but the Times, that published it was not, as it was within the public interest to know about such, form a news source. The public that visited such, knows about this, interest is garnered, the only thing that the federal government can do is just bark. I personally and looking forward to what all is in the file.

I find it very funny that the US gov. can claim wiki is breaking the law by holding onto documents that might show the US gov. breaking the law. Don't get your hopes up I think this release just shames TPTB more than anything else.

Originally posted by sdcigarpig
Ultimately, the federal government is in a bind. Somehow I think it knows and has a good idea as to what is in the documents, and can not afford to have such released, at the same time, nor can it stop the releasal of such. It is bound by the Pentagon Papers decision by the Supreme Court, where in that decision, the Supreme Court stated that the person who gave the papers was guilty, but the Times, that published it was not, as it was within the public interest to know about such, form a news source. The public that visited such, knows about this, interest is garnered, the only thing that the federal government can do is just bark. I personally and looking forward to what all is in the file.

The US legal jurisdiction is limited to US. They cannot prevent the release of this information. End of.

We live in a topsy turvy world where the criminals are in charge and the truth is considered a terrorist threat!
second

It's against the law for you to show the victims how we break the law?
Man, there are times when I wish there was a booger pickin' smiley.

Sometimes something dramatic has to happen for government to gain control again. If stuff is released that is deemed sensitive per national security...what the gov't begin to finally do what they have been itching to do for years....shutting internet sources of the info down!!! Watch out...you could be next.

So what about G W Bush , did he not break the law ?

American government will use any dirty tactics they can to stop the truth movement.

We are in a time where the joe public is fed up of all the lies and deceit,
yet the american goverment has told so many they cant keep pandoras box closed no longer, the box is bulging to breaking point.