will the real power mongers please stand up.

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that one went right over my head. i remember operation paperclip, by name, i read about it years ago.

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I am not just talking about the economy, i am talking about life and our leaders. I know they are not as smart as played out, plus most science people are just people like you and i, that did not have there lifes ruined in school.

I think there is a reason why they call people profane, and useless eaters. They think they are special in some way, and in many ways ego maniacs based on what they think they are.

Originally posted by andy1033
reply to post by Majestic23

 

Yep, the only question i have is this an entity that runs earth, or are they taping into some sort of energy?

If it is a luciferic consciousness then it would have to be manifest on many levels of existance. Perhaps I did not create the timespace we reside in but it governs our perception of it, the other thing to consider is how it keeps our souls here. It is probably a metaphysical net of some kind, the first knot of which is the indoctrination by religion and science we have here on Earth.

The overall idea being that something constructed the physical and closely resonant dimensions or altered them in such a way as to first attract soul consciousness here and then trap it within a web of illusion.

The use of energy of magic they tap into is simply a facet of creation that they know more about than the man on the street, I do not believe they have any power other what they beg or steal from forces greater than them. They just have the concentration to manipulate it.

Originally posted by Danbones
Now I have two names from someones in the know.
"the Pindar", which I believe is a title, and another name which is, I am told is a family ABOVE the banking families:
GALEN
As in the name of the man who ran the eastern front intelligence ops for the nazis,
his network was lifted wholesale by the Americans after WW2, - operation paperclip...
I think we, or I, will have to investigate or examine along these lines.
This is going to be a challenge because it will lead to an entity which,
while it may not EXACTLY be the Christian "SATAN", it will be just like it.

edit on 26-11-2010 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

I would suggest you guys take a look at the films Rosemary's Baby and The Boys From Brazil to really get you in the mood. They are written by the same person, whod have thought it?

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I think the Jews get blamed a lot because Christians were not allowed to collect interest. This means Jews became bankers. However My vote is for the bankers and their buddies the Bilderburgs.

I am mentioning the bankers for these reasons:

An analysis of the 2007 financial markets of 48 countries shows the world's finances are in the hands of a few mutual funds, banks, and corporations. This is the first report of global concentration of financial power ..www.insidescience.org...

This is backed up by:

Of mergers and acquisitions each costing $1 million or more, there were just 10 in 1970; in 1980, there were 94; in 1986, there were 346. A third of such deals in the 1980's were hostile. The 1980's also saw a wave of giant leveraged buyouts. Mergers, acquisitions and L.B.O.'s, which had accounted for less than 5 percent of the profits of Wall Street brokerage houses in 1978, ballooned into an estimated 50 percent of profits by 1988... THROUGH ALL THIS, THE HISTORIC RELATIONSHIP between product and paper has been turned upside down. Investment bankers no longer think of themselves as working for the corporations with which they do business. These days, corporations seem to exist for the investment bankers.... In fact, investment banks are replacing the publicly held industrial corporations as the largest and most powerful economic institutions in America.... THERE ARE SIGNS THAT A VICIOUS spiral has begun, as each corporate player seeks to improve its standard of living at the expense of another's. Corporate raiders transfer to themselves, and other shareholders, part of the income of employees by forcing the latter to agree to lower wages. January 29, 1989 www.nytimes.com... New York Times

What is the U.S. Federal Reserve and What is its Purpose?

“Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers and rich and predatory money lenders.”...

“Mr. Chairman, when the Federal reserve act was passed the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up... that this country was to supply financial power to an international superstate--a superstate controlled by International bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.” — Louis McFadden, chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee June 10, 1932
Excerpts from : www.modernhistoryproject.org...

Within 34 hours of becoming President, Mr. Roosevelt closed the doors on every bank and then confiscated private citizens' gold to pay the debts of the Federal Reserve. He signed the Emergency Banking Relief Act of 1933 on March 9, 1933. He then used the Act to confiscate US citizens' gold through an executive order on April 5th 1933

Executive Order 6102:  "Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve Bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933"

FDR was also president when the Assistant Secretary of the United States Treasury, Harry Dexter White, a soviet spy and John Maynard Keynes, a Brit, were the principle architects of the IMF at Bretton Woods. John Maynard Keynes gave us Keynesian economics, the possible cause of the present economic disaster. Harry Dexter White was the first head of the International Monetary Fund, and helped in the formation of the World Bank (1944)

According to Col. Curtis Dall, FDR's Son-in-law:

...He portrays the legendary president not as a leader but as a "quarterback" with little actual power. The "coaching staff" consisted of a coterie of handlers ("advisers" like Louis Howe, Bernard Baruch and Harry Hopkins) who represented the international banking cartel. For Dall, FDR ultimately was a traitor manipulated by "World Money".... My Exploited Father-in-law

What has the World Bank and IMF done to countries?

Structural Adjustment Policies are economic policies which countries must follow in order to qualify for new World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans and help them make debt repayments on the older debts owed to commercial banks, governments and the World Bank. Although SAPs are designed for individual countries but have common guiding principles and features which include export-led growth; privatisation and liberalisation; and the efficiency of the free market.

SAPs often result in deep cuts in programmes like education, health and social care...

By devaluing the currency and simultaneously removing price controls, the immediate effect of a SAP is.. that riots are a frequent result. www.whirledbank.org...

Summer 1995

"Today I resigned from the staff of the International Monetary Fund after over 12 years, and after 1000 days of official fund work in the field, hawking your medicine and your bag of tricks to governments and to peoples in Latin America and the Caribbean and Africa. To me, resignation is a priceless liberation, for with it I have taken the first big step to that place where I may hope to wash my hands of what in my mind's eye is the blood of millions of poor and starving peoples. Mr. Camdessus, the blood is so much, you know, it runs in rivers. It dries up too; it cakes all over me; sometimes I feel that there is not enough soap in the whole world to cleanse me from the things that I did do in your name and in the name of your predecessors, and under your official seal. "

Mr. Budhoo's Bombshell:

The powers of financial capitalism had far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The APEX of the systems was to be the BANK FOR INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS in Basel, Switzerland, a PRIVATE BANK owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world. ~ Carrol Quigley - Tragedy and Hope: a History of The World in Our Time

Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none is so effectual as that which deludes them with paper money. It is the most perfect expedient ever invented for fertilizing the rich man’s fields by the sweat of the poor man’s brow. Ordinary tyranny, oppression, excessive taxation, these bear lightly on the happiness of the community compared with fraudulent currencies and the robberies committed by depreciated paper. Our own history has recorded enough, and more than enough, of the demoralizing tendency, the injustice and intolerable oppression on the virtuous and well disposed, of a degraded paper currency, authorized by law, or in any way countenanced by Government.
~ Nelson W. Aldrich, United States Senator: The first draft of the Federal Reserve Act was called the Aldrich Bill named after Senator Nelson Aldrich one of the seven men who saddled us with the Federal Reserve Vampire.

Seems even James Madison agrees: “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.”