N. Korea Crisis - Updated as News come to hand

reply to post by Nomad451

Hey Vitch, honestly in your opinion what do you think the chances are that something will occur during the drills?

Since I'm suffering from doom fatigue... no chances.

But this is the worst crisis on the peninsula since 1983, the year the North Koreans sent assassins to kill the SKorean president.

North Korea is starving... and Kim Chong-Il needs to pass the power to Kim Chong-Un... and he's too young for him to be accepted by the generals... maybe Kim knows this and will push for total war knowing his family will lose power anyway.

Either another attack, perhaps a nuke test? I can't see this fading out into nothing. This seems to be the last straw for S. Korea

North Korea will do another nuke test within weeks if China allows any UN action against the North or even publicly blame the North for it.

I think the worse that will happen is North Korea using artillery in contested water... maybe even near the US-SK exercise... then maybe SK will retaliate with a little firepower like last time and the North will stop because China will force NKorea to calm before all out war happens.

What I would like to see... would be China rolls in North Korea and take those nutjobs out. Allow reunification, sign a peace treaty with UNITED KOREA, Japan should sign it too... the new UNITED KOREA constitution would say that their army would be kind of like the Japanese army... a defense force... and that China and the US keep their hands off.

Peace on the Korean peninsula...and North Koreans liberated. Maybe for this we do a big fat check to China... After all, we're paying them with their own money.


UPDATE: Remember the North Koreans returning to North Korea for war? Yeah... 20 000 of them... that's a lot...

A mass exodus of North Korean workers from the Far East of Russia is under way, according to reports coming out of the region. As the two Koreas edged towards the brink of war this week, it appears that the workers in Russia have been called back to aid potential military operations.

Russia's migration service said that there were over 20,000 North Koreans in Russia at the beginning of 2010

20 000... that's a lot of soldiers.


UPDATE 2 : GOOD NEWS FOR ONCE..
Chinese FM talks with DPRK, ROK, US diplomats on Korean Peninsular situation
China steps in to defuse Korean war threat

Hopefully this helps.

reply to post by HattoriHanzou


Chinese manpack radios have just caught up with the SINCGARS, a radio developed in 1983. The AN/PRC-117 that I used in Afghanistan is above and beyond the older SINCGARS. The PLA have quite abit of catching up to do. By the time they catch up to current systems, we'll have spaceborne troops equipped with active camouflaged powered armored exoskeletons and quantum encryption key based comms doing orbital insertions from transatmospheric vehicles. Sounds like sci fi, but only to those who have no idea what has been going on at DARPA for the past decade. People, especially outside the US military, simply have no idea whats knocking on the military industrial door.

reply to post by MikeboydUS


Wow U.S Space Command cool lol u really get too jump off of that ,, are u nuts?? lol

And the very first person to parachute,, he jumped out off a Helium Ballon once it reached "Space" was??? and in what year did he do it??

wow cool

reply to post by Castaway


North Korea says they were provoked by SK. Judging by the US & European meddling in the past. Yes, I will agree with the NK's. The NK's are already skittish as it is and I'm sure SK had gotten really close to that line the NK's drew in the sand (so to speak). And why was the BBC right there to film it all?

reply to post by Portugoal


I have at least one thing on the wishlist for WW3, and thats a massive exchange of Nuclear ICBM's between both sides of the world. It's a lose/lose situation but also a learning experience that will begin the first stage of turning a new leaf, and that is, "Nothing comes good of these weapons no matter who has them".

reply to post by TheChemist1


I understand the Korean war, my father fought in it. However, NK is one of the few sovereign nations that will not submit to Western (US & European) rule. Myanmar (Burma) is another and a Westerner is responsible for the turmoil with Aung San Suu Kyi. That situation has that country in a serious uproar. The Rwanda massacre was due to the Dutch meddling. Iraq & Afghanistan was led by the US & British when the event that sent us there was fabricated by our own politicians.

Originally posted by QuantumDeath
reply to post by Portugoal

 

I have at least one thing on the wishlist for WW3, and thats a massive exchange of Nuclear ICBM's between both sides of the world. It's a lose/lose situation but also a learning experience that will begin the first stage of turning a new leaf, and that is, "Nothing comes good of these weapons no matter who has them".

It would turn a new leaf alright. You get the award for posting the most retarded thing I have ever read on ATS. Seriously this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted and I have seen alot of dumb posts.

Meanwhile a group with the ability to turn all 1s to 0s and to launch a series of devastating attacks that will severely damage western infrastructure and economies waits quietly in the shadows.

It isn't how the war is fought that matters, it is how it can ultimately be won.

Spread thin, and vulnerabilities makes victory possible for an enemy with no real homeland.

Go to war in Korea America!

Dong-A Ilbo: #DPRK at coastal area keeping in position 122-mm multiple rocket launchers used to attack Yeonpyeong.

Seems to me that they are considering the option of really pounding that area again...

MAP OF THE DAY: How North Korean Artillery Could Level Seoul In Two Hours

Planeman (ATSer) topic on North Korea military on militaryphotos

reply to post by Subjective Truth


And I suppose you or one man or woman will be enough to go through with the cease and desist order for a worldwide ban and elimination of these weapons? Worldwide meaning, "everyone, including America, no exclusions."

The wheels will continue to go round, attempt after attempt, If there is nothing to be learnt from mass catastrophe, then it is retarded as you say it is. Then we can continue to watch the very hypocrites say no-no to pursuing nuclear weapons, as we sought the same thing, for the same purposes. Fearful Global Image and the Feeling of being the ones to say, we can kill off your entire city of people.

whats this i here North Korea fired warning shots today? sounds like we are heading for war next week china is also getting into the mix more calling out the united states i wonder this world war 3 coming

whats this i here North Korea fired warning shots today? sounds like we are heading for war next week china is also getting into the mix more calling out the united states i wonder this world war 3 coming

whats this i here North Korea fired warning shots today? sounds like we are heading for war next week china is also getting into the mix more calling out the united states i wonder this world war 3 coming

sorry for the many replies i dont know why that happened!

Well it seems even South Korea likes hot air...

S. Korea marines commander vows 'thousand-fold' retaliation for attack by North

YEONPYEONG ISLAND, South Korea — South Korea's marines commander Saturday vowed up to a "thousand-fold" retaliation for the North Korea artillery attack that killed four just days earlier.

The threat came as efforts to halt violence in the region continued even as South Korea and the U.S. prepared to launch joint military maneuvers Sunday.

"Our marine corps ... will carry out a hundred- or thousand-fold," retaliation against North Korea for launching Tuesday's attack, You said, without elaborating.

Maybe the high command is preparing a massive retaliatory strike... who knows.

Now what's gonna be the North's response to this? A buildup of troops near the border?

see previous post.

good stuff sounds like south korea is gonna retaliate soon

Originally posted by ajniss
good stuff sounds like south korea is gonna retaliate soon

Yeah and Seoul is gonna be obliterated. And China will go in.

And a bonus observation of the gold curve is the Gold February contract, where in the last minute someone bought 2k contracts, which represents 200,000 ounces or about $272MM worth of gold. Not a bad purchase for the last trade on the slowest day of the year.

So...who bought 272 million $ worth of gold now? Someone expecting a new Korean war this weekend?

If a new war explodes, gold is gonna skyrocket.


And ain't that a nice title?
C ountdown to Oblivion: North Korea artillery strike - the Start of the First Nuclear War?
Gonna sell a lot of papers with that headline.

"The Chinese government is trying to send Pyongyang a signal that if they continue to be so provocative, China will just leave the North Koreans to themselves," said Zhu Feng, director of Peking University's Center for International and Strategic Studies.

I really think in the end China knows a war with SK and the US isnt worth it over NK

reply to post by Vitchilo


That doomsday daily mail trash is even in the news section. That really tells you a lot about the daily mail doesn't it!