The TSA and 911

The TSA was created because of 911. It says it on their website, here:

www.tsa.gov...

We were created in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, to strengthen the security of the nation's transportation systems. The Aviation and Transportation Security Act, passed by the 107th Congress on November 19, 2001, established our agency

With that being said, there are many who believe the 911 Official Story is incorrect. So, putting 2 and 2 together we arrive at the uncomfortable possibility that this agency and it's agenda was created for a more sinister purpose.

Because the TSA is probably one of the most popular topics brought up as of late, how do you feel about the possibility that the sole purpose of this agency is to introduce facism to our country under the guise of security?

There are countless examples as of late:



Keep in mind, it takes alot of tax dollars, adds alot of stress, and has not proven to be effective. Is freedom for security an even trade? Also, does this agency make us safer and is a nessasary evil, or is it part of larger plan that may have NWO implications?


Discuss.

Never forget they ALWAYS use double speak - and it's right in our face.

Security has two meanings in double speak.

1. Security of the Elite Agenda.

2. Beating the people into submission.

So - national security = beating the nation into submission, and furtherance of the Elite Agenda.

My question is, why with all the NSA/FBI wiretapping freedoms they have now, extraordinary rendition abilities, warrantless searches of homes, etc...why aren't they catching all these "terrorists" before they get to the airport?

I mean, we've given up all these other freedoms, WHERE'S THE PAYOFF FOR THE CITIZEN?

Are we supposed to believe that the Counter-Terrorist Task Forces are getting WORSE at their jobs, and that is why we need all this "extra" security at the airports????

It's all B.S. There is no more terrorism now than there was 10 years ago. Yet with all the civil liberties we've given up to catch those terrorists, we are supposed to believe the threat has increased?

100% B.S. It's all a data grab. The full body scanners are biometric data grabbers. Insurance agencies, creditors, marketers, corporations, government want data about our bodies, so they can know more about us, the population, for reasons to charge us more for insurance, credit, and to better "mine" us on what to sell us.

You KNOW the government is/has been developing huge databases about our DNA, profiles, and this full body scan is a way of just cramming more data into their master database for further "analysis".

There is a reason it's called a "Scientific Dictatorship". The practice of eugenics has its hand in this too.

Indeed. What if another 911 happens, but this time at a sports stadium. Will we have to go through the same checkpoints at these facillities? Will they eventually be everywhere? Where does the line between security and freedom exist?

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
Indeed. What if another 911 happens, but this time at a sports stadium. Will we have to go through the same checkpoints at these facillities? Will they eventually be everywhere? Where does the line between security and freedom exist?

Wait until there is a terror attack in someone's bedroom. Then you'll have to clear security just to go to sleep!!

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


Simple...it isn't:

...the TSA.... how do you feel about the possibility that the sole purpose of this agency is to introduce facism to our country under the guise of security?

This attempted 'argument" fails the crediblity AND logic tests, simultaneously.

Sorry if this has been pointed out already, I'm in a hurry, and am responding to the OP's premise statement.

This is not to be interpreted as a defense (nor criticism) of the TSA in any way...it is the failed "logical" conclusion of the OP that is the issue here.

Doesn't "fly" ( ), sorry. Oh, and reason??? Should be obvious.

Where are the only places TSA has any so-called "jurisdiction"? (Airports)

AND, how many people in the united States, as a percentage of population have ever flown?? (Since TSA is topic, it applies only to U.S.).

OF those who have "ever flown", what percentage are 'frequent flyers"?

When you check the demographics of the overall U.S.population, you will find a very small percentage have ever interracted with TSA more than once...and an even larger percentage who have never interacted with the TSA!!!

What's more, the very short time-frame of the existence of the "entity" (structure/bureaucracy) that is now called "TSA" is way too short to amount to any significance....

....and with this "bad" publicity of late? Won't last, in the same way seen today, is my bet......

You're argument is based on exposure. Obviously you can't expose the entire population, you don't have to. Even though a small percentage is effected, there is still a huge out cry. This is because its reach extends beyond the people who were directly effected, and has an impact on family members friends, and ATS members who are outraged.

Maybe my arguement is sensationalized, but that doesn't discredit it entirely.

As for your mathmatics, it's hard to argue something that you are speculating on without backing it up with numbers. In 9 years, maybe 50% of all citizens could have been affected at one time or another--and that's me speculating on the numbers.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

Simple...it isn't:

...the TSA.... how do you feel about the possibility that the sole purpose of this agency is to introduce facism to our country under the guise of security?

This attempted 'argument" fails the crediblity AND logic tests, simultaneously.

Sorry if this has been pointed out already, I'm in a hurry, and am responding to the OP's premise statement.

This is not to be interpreted as a defense (nor criticism) of the TSA in any way...it is the failed "logical" conclusion of the OP that is the issue here.

Doesn't "fly" (

), sorry. Oh, and reason??? Should be obvious.

Where are the only places TSA has any so-called "jurisdiction"? (Airports)

AND, how many people in the united States, as a percentage of population have ever flown?? (Since TSA is topic, it applies only to U.S.).

OF those who have "ever flown", what percentage are 'frequent flyers"?

When you check the demographics of the overall U.S.population, you will find a very small percentage have ever interracted with TSA more than once...and an even larger percentage who have never interacted with the TSA!!!

What's more, the very short time-frame of the existence of the "entity" (structure/bureaucracy) that is now called "TSA" is way too short to amount to any significance....

....and with this "bad" publicity of late? Won't last, in the same way seen today, is my bet......

edit on 17 November 2010 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)