I fought the War on Terror.

Terrorism aside, people should be way more aware of their surroundings anyway. The US has plenty of scumbags and criminals without worrying about international fanatics. Keep your eyes open and your ear to the ground. It's not anti-terrorism advice, it's good advice in any situation. Don't rely on the police to be watching over you and protecting your neighborhood. Don't rely on the authorities to protect your children and property. Know the regulars in the neighborhood. Know which kids live there and which ones come visit from elsewhere. If enough attention is paid, you will be able to see something "wrong" before you even realize it. That could be step one to saving yourself or someone else.

If McVeigh had been middle eastern, he'd have been called a terrorist. Since he was a white American, he was labled a murderer instead. Just my opinion.

And you'd be surprised what can fit in a cooler. They're a wonderful means of transport and so very very common. Being aware and considering possibilities for trouble doesn't mean The Terrorists Win. It just means maybe their job won't be as easy as they'd hoped.

Originally posted by Ambient Sound
There are roughly 3000 people who would probably have agreed with you if they hadn't gone to work at the WTC on Sept. 11th, 2001.

What could have been done differently? If no one even knew what the target was, how in the hell could that have been avoided? Look! There's jets in the sky! Everyone stay out of all buildings! If someone hears rumor that a bank might be robbed, are you going to avoid all banks? And for how long? Random paranoia will get you nowhere.

[edit on 30-6-2004 by Damned]

Originally posted by Omega Pickle
Well, maybe not but I felt I should post this. I read a few days back that the FBI is warning local law enforcement to be on the watch because Terrorist may use coolers to hide bombs. On my way back from West Point yesterday night I went over the Bear Mountain Bridge and saw an orange cooler just sitting up on the guard rail. It was 12 am and no workers were around. I felt that it was my civic duty to call the State Police and inform them. A worker might have forgotten about it but you can never be too sure.

Omega Pickle, good job! Perhaps that you should have informed the board that the Bear Mtn. Bridge is only a stones' throw away from a major nuclear plant (Indian Point). Maybe then they would see WHY everyone in the area is on high alert. Also, IF anything happens there, the safe radius is 50 miles, from any plant.
Omega Pickle, perhaps you should have mentioned about the concern of divers in the area, from the bridge to the plant as well.
Again, good job! You made an excellent decision! It could have been nothing, but again it could have been a diversion.

Jakomo,

I think you are upset because the U.S. owns the Stanley Cup once again. As a matter of fact, it cant get any farther away.

Great job OP

[edit on 30-6-2004 by sniper068]

JackAtMtn:

Denial, its ok, like I said, there are more than enough Americans willing to do what is necessary to protect, even you, so you can live a life free from fear.

He's saying that he already lives his life without fear.

Ambient Sound:

quote: Originally posted by Damned
Hide from what? As far as I'm concerned, I was never in any real danger to begin with.


you: There are roughly 3000 people who would probably have agreed with you if they hadn't gone to work at the WTC on Sept. 11th, 2001.

Check the year. 2001. It's now 2004. Since September 11, 2001 how many Americans have died on U.S. soil due to "terrorism"? Zero.

And is it due to the incredible diligence of state and local authorities? Haha, good one. They're human beings, and fallible, and they can't be everywhere at once. And we all know how porous the U.S. borders are.

And YET, how many times SINCE September 11th has the Threat Level been at it's lowest (I think that's Green). How many days total?

These terrorist dont really scare me but I am always on the look out for something strange. I doubt they could fit any substantial explosive in a cooler but enuff to make a bang and cause a scene. Considering the area, near Indian Point I always keep an eye out if I see something strange but it does not get in the way of my daily life. Right next to Indian Point is a garbage incinerating plant. Yuck Yuck big mess if the injin point melted down.

Also, I dont really see it as a War on Terror now but a battle of beliefs. I used the title I did because of what it is called and well it sounded kinda catchy.

Originally posted by torque
Being aware and considering possibilities for trouble doesn't mean The Terrorists Win. It just means maybe their job won't be as easy as they'd hoped.

Exactly. The next major terrorist attack will most likely occur when we as a nation get sloppy again with security. It's bound to happen that we're going to forget the effects of 9/11, and that airline security won't be as strong as it was right after 9/11, but we don't need to accelerate the process.

That said, we really need to watch that damn Patriot Act. That law can easily turn into a monster in the wrong hands.

Originally posted by Damned
If someone hears rumor that a bank might be robbed, are you going to avoid all banks? And for how long? Random paranoia will get you nowhere.

[edit on 30-6-2004 by Damned]

That's cute, except for the fact that if the government is providing such detailed info about potential things to look out for, that it was most likely obtained from somewhat credible intelligence. It's not just random paranoia.

good job, i just wish the rest of america would be like that.

Okay, to those with their ignorant anti-Canada statements:


Here's the difference between an American and a Canadian.

THE AMERICAN sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park. The American calls the FBI, afraid it may be packed with nasty, evil things that are going to wreak destruction on the country.

THE CANADIAN sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park. He checks to see if there's any beer in it.


We win.

Happy Canada Day!

Originally posted by Jakomo

Okay, to those with their ignorant anti-Canada statements:


Here's the difference between an American and a Canadian.

THE AMERICAN sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park. The American calls the FBI, afraid it may be packed with nasty, evil things that are going to wreak destruction on the country.

THE CANADIAN sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park. He checks to see if there's any beer in it.


We win.

Happy Canada Day!

What a lie. Everybody knows Americans have bigger beer bellies.

Originally posted by Jakomo
THE CANADIAN sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park. He checks to see if there's any beer in it.

on the lighter side
The Canadien sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park.
He checks to see if the Stanley Cup is in it.
Nope, It's still in America
We Win!!!!

I know it's better now that people are more cautious and aware of terroism , but it seems that the war on terror was only illumenated when the # hit the fan (so to speak) on your own back yard (USA), The UK has been fighting terroism with the IRA for years and no doubt for years to come, and resulting in alot of bloodshed, ironically enough the IRA have received funding throughout history from 'Irish Americans'.

I also think that the media has hyped and whipped up frenzy among the public, and everyone is paranoid, like it or not there will never be an end to terrorism, there are too many political and religious differences through out the world and not everyone can be pleased.

Visit London.
On the underground Tube/Train service at the station platforms there are announcements every 2 minutes about unattended bags.

Usually its kids who forgot their sports kids behind.

I remember McVeigh being referred to as a "Domestic Terrorist plenty of times.

Jackomo:

Yeah, because we all know how many people in the mainland USA have lost their lives to terrorists since 9-11

I also remember the sniper. Anyone that lived in the DC, MD, VA area would agree that they did terrorize the area. I guess that would make them terrorists. They killed quite a few.

Maybe the FBI has finally caught on to me. I make it a habit to booby trap my coolers with nerve gas to keep people, especially thieving Canucks like Jakomo, out of my stash. So, if you see my desert camo cooler laying by the roadside anywhere, dont friggin touch it or youll be sorry. I probabaly left the thing on the side of the road cuz I had to piss in the bushes.

Seriously though. I dont see what the big deal is here with reporting a beer cooler on the side of the road. Has he changed his entire life? No. Noticing and reporting the beer cooler did not interfere with his daily activities, nor did it peak his paranoia. he saw it, said what the #, call it in. No big deal. Its not like he stopped work, canceled his family reunion, and ran to a basement with a tin foil hat and reported it.

So, while the idea of the beer cooler bomb is pretty much overblown (unless youre anywhere near MY beer cooler...Jakomo, dont even think of it, thats NERVE gas), its good that he noticed it and called it in. Who knows? Thats how alot of murder cases and crimes are solved, passersby finding something on the side of the road that contains evidence that could solve a crime that has nothing to do with terrorism.

Originally posted by Spectator
That's cute, except for the fact that if the government is providing such detailed info about potential things to look out for, that it was most likely obtained from somewhat credible intelligence. It's not just random paranoia.

We have credible intelligence??? Since when???

Originally posted by Jakomo
THE CANADIAN sees an orange beer cooler on a guardrail by a national park. He checks to see if there's any beer in it.

Hehehe! Actually, if it's a nice looking cooler, I'm going to take it home. I can never have too many coolers.

[edit on 2-7-2004 by Damned]

This supposed beer cooler bomb threat doesnt even appear to be based on any intelligence. Thiough they have not found any device, or had any intelligence suggesting that such a device should be iused.........

They still say watch out for beer coolers.

Sounds to me like someone up high is sniffing some glue before the 4th of july.