Obama in India - says show us your passport

reply to post by Curiousisall


Never mind the Obama haters...they don't need facts to muck up thier usual Obama rants. I never reply to thier threads.and still am not..I am responding to you....

Originally posted by rangersdad
It just goes to show how arrogant Obama really is...he creates a fake event to appear in public to the people of
of India then he asks officials of the indian government to show THEIR id

Except you miss the little fact that obama had nothing at all to do with asking for ID.... the Obama haters really do not stop to think at all!

Actually I think the irony is in that ATS is a community full of detail oriented smarty pants folks that are too smart for their own good yet have been falling over themselves to believe any negative thing they find about Obama in this Indian Times even after pretty much every story has been proven false. Deny ignorance but embrace anonymous sources, latch on to proven false sources, and use any excuse to try and bring up the birther issue all while being too much of a coward to face one of the already well established birther threads all over ATS. I find that ironic and sad. If this story is as good as the $200 Million or 34 warships then it has no business being taken seriously be people that flock together to collectively deny ignorance.

edit on 11/7/10 by Curiousisall because: (no reason given)

Are you saying the Indian Times are posting misleading information or are you more concerned over the inference I have drawn in relation to the story being ironical.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by rangersdad
It just goes to show how arrogant Obama really is...he creates a fake event to appear in public to the people of
of India then he asks officials of the indian government to show THEIR id

Except you miss the little fact that obama had nothing at all to do with asking for ID.... the Obama haters really do not stop to think at all!

Obama is the head and as the saying goes the buck stops here.

reply to post by keldas

Obama today addressed students at St. Xavier's college mumbai in india i was listening to his speech and almost stumbled from my seat when he said this line and i am quoting him:

" Around the globe the cold war is a distant memory, a NEW ORDER has emerged one that is reflected in the 20 members of G 20" .

Check out the youtube vid at the end at 14:02:


I think his visit is just to promote his new world order agenda.

reply to post by keldas


I am saying the Indian Times has been printing misleading material.

Maybe a better way to put it, to relate back to the irony, is that the Times has been reporting stories that stretch the bounds of logic based on an anonymous source and people all over ATS have just accepted them as fact without question. I hope that is better.

Just about every president since Regan would commonly use "New order", or "A new world order" in speeches. He's referring to what it means - a new order. I highly doubt he is directly referring to an "Illuminati" backed take-over with the institution of NAFTA, and a new oppressive, global Orwellian state. Not to mention, Obama has, and still does have numerous political adversaries in office, who would absolutely POUNCE on ANY proof that Obama wasn't eligible to be President. You know why none of his political adversaries have mentioned anything about Obama not being born in the US of A? Because it's simply not true. Its a political delusion that certain members convince themselves is true, despite any and all proof. They've just come up with a conclusion, and are trying to find any proof AFTER they've already formed their conclusion.

I don't like Obama, AT ALL, but I refuse to disregard any and all logic in order to support something that would reinforce my belief that Obama isn't right for America. It's like people are sacrificing Truth, for Ideology, which is an incredibly dangerous thing to do. It's like wrongly accusing someone you hate with murder, just because you believe they're a bad person - It's not right, it's not just, it's just plain wrong.

Originally posted by Syyth007
I don't like Obama, AT ALL, but I refuse to disregard any and all logic in order to support something that would reinforce my belief that Obama isn't right for America. It's like people are sacrificing Truth, for Ideology, which is an incredibly dangerous thing to do. It's like wrongly accusing someone you hate with murder, just because you believe they're a bad person - It's not right, it's not just, it's just plain wrong.

Thank you. That is exactly my problem with all the blind hate for Obama. When I constantly read complaints of "He is secretly gay, Muslim, Kenyan, depressed, Indonesian, Communist, Socialist, a Nazi, the Anti-Christ, etc." ad nauseum all I can think is that his policies must be outstandingly perfect in every way and everything he has done as president must have been perfect so far. When people reach so far to find something to complain about, it kind of makes it look like there is nothing legitimate to complain about. Even I can agree that there is plenty to complain about.

As for Obama revealing the NWO,
What the hell is taking them so long?

Originally posted by Curiousisall

Obama gets 53,670 new jobs in the US with 20 Indian deals

President Barack Obama's India visit has been successful in creating thousands of jobs for Americans

Har har har har har har har

It would have been better if he had stayed in the white house and invested the money wasted on this trip into creating domestic jobs. Heck he could have started a new corporation.

53,670 jobs eh?

When all of the accounting is done, how much will each of those jobs cost US?

Oh, and are these "created or saved" jobs?

if he wasnt the president and was a ceo and had private security that asked these same questions would you be upset if his company was puring in billions of potential and actual millions of dollars into your country?

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


Of course even creating jobs for us, he is still wrong for it. I am just going to take a wild guess and say that he never heard your plan for job creation. I looked around and could not find anything from you on ATS as to what he should have been doing in the white house to create jobs and your accounting for it. It seems you still believe the insane number quoted by some anonymous source so I would love to see what you have. Since creating jobs for us is still no good, tell us what would have been better.

reply to post by Curiousisall


Okay... here is my plan, give me ALL of the money spent on this trip. (actual total costs and expenses) and I will find a way to invest it and employ thousands of Americans.

I suppose it is a good thing, but seeing how his administration has used misleading tactics in the past regarding the creation of jobs, I need to wait and see if there are any actual jobs created for "Americans" For all we know these will ultimately be saved jobs, or created and saved jobs, or maybe jobs for Indian Americans only... Who knows?

They had to give the public some justification for this trip, so I suppose these deals and possible jobs will do.

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
reply to post by Curiousisall

 

Okay... here is my plan, give me ALL of the money spent on this trip. (actual total costs and expenses) and I will find a way to invest it and employ thousands of Americans.

Yeah, that is a wonderful solution. Just invest it. Why hasn't anyone thought of that?
Even if I could give you a number at this point, just saying you would invest it is NOT a plan. Invest in what? Where? How?

I suppose it is a good thing, but seeing how his administration has used misleading tactics in the past regarding the creation of jobs, I need to wait and see if there are any actual jobs created for "Americans" For all we know these will ultimately be saved jobs, or created and saved jobs, or maybe jobs for Indian Americans only... Who knows?

Why do you read something about added jobs and just insist on only viewing it through a negative lense? Is there no good Obama can do for you? I kind of feel like even if he handed everyone a $1 Million in gold bars, some of you would only see what is bad about it. If you are going to go ahead and assume things, why not assume added jobs means added jobs?

They had to give the public some justification for this trip, so I suppose these deals and possible jobs will do.

Who says they had to justify anything? I do not recall the past presidents having to justify comparable trips to anyone so do you think they felt they needed to justify this one?

Originally posted by rangersdad
reply to post by keldas

 

It just goes to show how arrogant Obama really is...he creates a fake event to appear in public to the people of
of India then he asks officials of the indian government to show THEIR id!! They should kick Obama out
of their country for him disrespecting them so much!!!

i couldnt agree more!!

This is just crazy?!

Originally posted by Curiousisall

Yeah, that is a wonderful solution. Just invest it. Why hasn't anyone thought of that?

Even if I could give you a number at this point, just saying you would invest it is NOT a plan. Invest in what? Where? How?

Trust me, I'm a real American.

Why do you read something about added jobs and just insist on only viewing it through a negative lense? Is there no good Obama can do for you? I kind of feel like even if he handed everyone a $1 Million in gold bars, some of you would only see what is bad about it. If you are going to go ahead and assume things, why not assume added jobs means added jobs?

Being skeptical is easy when everything this administration has done leaves one full of doubt and skepticism.

Sorry, I can't jump on the praise Obama bandwagon on this one with you. I need real proof first.

Who says they had to justify anything? I do not recall the past presidents having to justify comparable trips to anyone so do you think they felt they needed to justify this one?

You are right, they don't... In fact it would be better if Obama just simply gave all of his critics the middle finger and went on with his business.

That would be change I could actually believe in.

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Curiousisall

Yeah, that is a wonderful solution. Just invest it. Why hasn't anyone thought of that?

Even if I could give you a number at this point, just saying you would invest it is NOT a plan. Invest in what? Where? How?

Trust me, I'm a real American.

I am sorry, are we using the same language?
I am a little confused here as to what you may be responding to and I would hate to address it since it kind of makes no sense to me at all.

reply to post by Curiousisall


It should be self-explanatory. Only a few words, and yes it is English.

You and I have gone too far from the original topic here, what does any of this have to do with passports?

My apologies.

reply to post by Curiousisall


I have a question for anyone who cares to answer: How will Obama going to India and spending a
ton of money there create jobs here in the USA???

reply to post by rangersdad

President Obama unveiled about USD 10 billion in new contracts for US exports to India on Saturday as he launched an aggressive push to show his trip to Asia will deliver jobs back home," CNN said.

Source

Originally posted by rangersdad
reply to post by Curiousisall

 

I have a question for anyone who cares to answer: How will Obama going to India and spending a
ton of money there create jobs here in the USA???

We're probably gonna be building them a bunch of new warplanes.