Global Warming Fraud

First and foremost, I would like to begin by saying that global warming is real and is happening at an alarming rate.

Now to address how we are being manipulated by this effect...

The earth is known to have gone through many transitions, from pangaea to the many ice ages.

How can TPTB and the media minions pass the buck on the people in the form of carbon taxes and what not

We do not cause global warming, as we were not capable (nor here from a religious perspective) during past global warmings and coolings.

The earth is going to do what it does and we should not shoulder the blame for it. The corporations are the polluters. They produce the goods, they have the money, they make the decisions, so why do we have to hand over our independence to the UN because of global warming and the effects of it when we were not the cause?

Secondly, all wealth generated by people, has derived at some point from the earth. So is it justifiable for the wealthiest people (the ones who took the most from the earth) to force the rest of the world to stop taking with there sanctions and fear mongering?

The real fraud of global warming is pushing the blame on the people

One volcano eruption can match all co2 emissions in the last 200 years

The corporations are the polluters. They produce the goods, they have the money, they make the decisions, so why do we have to hand over our independence to the UN because of global warming and the effects of it when we were not the cause?

Please don't feel offended now, but this quote isTotallyfalse. Let me tell you that BOTH the corporations AND the average Joe are just as responsible.
The Atlantic Ocean is litteraly filled with plastic, not because of The Goverment but because of moronic Tourists and visitors that uses the ocean as a dumpingplace for whatever crap they consume and throws it overboard just because they are too darn stupid to use a trashcan, and the same acts are seen every day in the Beatiful Parks of every City; Icecreampapers and cigarettes and chewinggums thrown everywhere.


The sooner people start to realise thateveronehas the responsibility for the condition of this Earth, the better.

Well...

Actually...

We/us ( the consumers ) buy and eat what we want. They ( Corporations ) simply supply our demands.

Most volcanoes hardly vomit any Co2. Since Co2 is a waste product of organic live and magma and gases from a volcano come from deep within the earth. Deeper even then any coal depositions left by rotting organic stuff...

Even when Co2 doesn't effect the atmosphere as much as they make us belief it does, there are also even stronger greenhouse gases emitted like CFCs. Yup they do not only destruct ozone they are also heating up the place.

Please ? Why do you think we/us ( Mankind ) are not causing climate warming. Have you actually listen to does who do think we are causing it ?
I did, and still do.

Honestly ? After reading and learning a lot from both sides of the fence... I 'm even less sure about what the truth is then before. The one thing I do think is a blatant lie is the whole carbon tax stuff....

Originally posted by ADUB77
One volcano eruption can match all co2 emissions in the last 200 years

Where did you get that stat? If its a true stat thats pretty damning IMO to the global warming thing.

Ok so the volcano doesn't emit CO2, it emits methane, technically the same thing

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One volcano eruption can match all co2 emissions in the last 200 years

No no no no no... please... for the love of God... will people please stop spouting this nonsense...

Sorry if i sound rude... but i get frustrated disproving the same myths over and over again. If you are going to make bold claims please back them up with facts...


From the US Geological Survey Website

Gas studies at volcanoes worldwide have helped volcanologists tally up a global volcanic CO2 budget in the same way that nations around the globe have cooperated to determine how much CO2 is released by human activity through the burning of fossil fuels. Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually.

This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy's Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (cdiac.ornl.gov...) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value.

So, as you can see, Human CO2 emissions far exceed that of Volcano’s...

Sorry for the open show of frustration

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Human Emissions Also Dwarf Volcanoes in Carbon Dioxide Production

environment.about.com...


EFFECTS OF VOLCANIC GASES

Volcano Emissions Project

Here is a good place to start reading up on this stuff

Enjoy

So what caused the previous planetary warming/cooling cycles if we are the cause of this one?

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My guess ?

The Sun and the maybe our place in the galaxy, which is next or maybe even in a molecular dust cloud

Originally posted by ADUB77
So what caused the previous planetary warming/cooling cycles if we are the cause of this one?

There are many different reasons for previous warming/cooling of the Earth... The Suns activity, the Earths orbital changes, Volcanism (The further you go back the more active and common) and even life forms that live on the planet can all play a part in these natural changes.

The Earth always has and always will go through it own cycles. However, what we are doing is adding excess that wouldn’t otherwise be there. We are digging up billions of tons of carbon locked up underground for millions of years and releasing it into the atmosphere.

Yes, Volcano’s release greenhouse gasses... but this is a natural event that the planet is able to soak up through the oceans and forests... It is the net surplus from humans that is the problem. It is this that is tipping the balance and the evidence is all around us.