Prophecies of "the resurrection" in the Quran

Like Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Ezekiel, Mohammed received both the Vision of the “Son of man” (referred to in the Quran as the “Night Journey”; and also referred to in Genesis 3:24 as the “Tree of Life”), the Revelation of the Memory of Creation, and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

Thus, the Mission of Mohammed—who, on the basis of the Prophecy of Malachi (Chapter 3:23-24), the Revelations in the Quran, and the Prophecy of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew Chapter 17:11-13 must be concluded was Elijah and John the Baptist ‘raised from the dead’ (something which the media, the politicians, and the religious ‘authorities’—referred to in Chapter 16:13 of the Revelation of John as, respectively, the “dragon”, the “beast” and the “false prophet”—cannot possibly allow to be publicized or considered of any relevance at all in resolving the conflict over Jerusalem)—was two-fold:

1) to correct the errors of both the Jewish and the Christian religious ‘authorities’ with regards to Jesus—by affirming the Christian assertion that Jesus was the messiah; but, at the same time, validating the Jewish repudiation of the worship of Jesus as ‘God’ as a “monstrous blasphemy”; and,

2) to correct precisely the same error made by the Jewish and the Christian religious ‘authorities’ about the Doctrine of “resurrection”—by affirming that it is a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’ rather than the pagan-Egyptian-Pharisaical-metaphysical doctrine of the raising of a dead physical body from the grave.

Although there are dozens upon dozens of either direct or indirect Revelations in the Quran specifically with regards to either the Revelation or the Doctrine of “resurrection” as a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’, probably one of the most subtle of those Revelations does not even make specific mention of the Doctrine of “resurrection” at all:

“Never think that the unbelievers will escape the wrath of Allah in this world. Hell shall be their home; an evil fate awaits them.”

In one stroke, this Revelation affirms that the unbelievers, even if they die—that is the meaning of the word “never”—will never escape the wrath of Allah in this world. In other words, if Allah does not punish them with His wrath during this life, they will receive the wrath of God when they are ‘raised from the dead’ to live subsequent lives in the future. Thus, “hell” is not any metaphysical existence of punishments which occurs after death; but is something that occurs in this world, and during one life or another. In other words, it is a this-worldly rather than an other-worldly experience.

In addition, there is another statement which is often repeated in reference to both Jesus and the prophets: “peace be upon him”; which, in fact, is an abbreviated version of a longer Revelation: “…may Peace be upon him when he is raised from the dead.”

The meaning of this Revelation pertains very specifically to the context in which a person receives the revelation of the memories of previous lives; which, because it includes memories of previous lives and deaths, is an extremely traumatic experience; most Muslims, however, accepting too unquestioningly the Muslim religious ‘authorities’ disinterpretation of the Doctrine of “resurrection”, being unaware of the deeper significance of this Revelation.

Mi cha el

Originally posted by Michael Cecil
Like Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Ezekiel, Mohammed received both the Vision of the “Son of man” (referred to in the Quran as the “Night Journey”; and also referred to in Genesis 3:24 as the “Tree of Life”), the Revelation of the Memory of Creation, and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

Thus, the Mission of Mohammed—who, on the basis of the Prophecy of Malachi (Chapter 3:23-24), the Revelations in the Quran, and the Prophecy of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew Chapter 17:11-13 must be concluded was Elijah and John the Baptist ‘raised from the dead’ (something which the media, the politicians, and the religious ‘authorities’—referred to in Chapter 16:13 of the Revelation of John as, respectively, the “dragon”, the “beast” and the “false prophet”—cannot possibly allow to be publicized or considered of any relevance at all in resolving the conflict over Jerusalem)—was two-fold:

1) to correct the errors of both the Jewish and the Christian religious ‘authorities’ with regards to Jesus—by affirming the Christian assertion that Jesus was the messiah; but, at the same time, validating the Jewish repudiation of the worship of Jesus as ‘God’ as a “monstrous blasphemy”; and,

2) to correct precisely the same error made by the Jewish and the Christian religious ‘authorities’ about the Doctrine of “resurrection”—by affirming that it is a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’ rather than the pagan-Egyptian-Pharisaical-metaphysical doctrine of the raising of a dead physical body from the grave.

Although there are dozens upon dozens of either direct or indirect Revelations in the Quran specifically with regards to either the Revelation or the Doctrine of “resurrection” as a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’, probably one of the most subtle of those Revelations does not even make specific mention of the Doctrine of “resurrection” at all:

“Never think that the unbelievers will escape the wrath of Allah in this world. Hell shall be their home; an evil fate awaits them.”

In one stroke, this Revelation affirms that the unbelievers, even if they die—that is the meaning of the word “never”—will never escape the wrath of Allah in this world. In other words, if Allah does not punish them with His wrath during this life, they will receive the wrath of God when they are ‘raised from the dead’ to live subsequent lives in the future. Thus, “hell” is not any metaphysical existence of punishments which occurs after death; but is something that occurs in this world, and during one life or another. In other words, it is a this-worldly rather than an other-worldly experience.

In addition, there is another statement which is often repeated in reference to both Jesus and the prophets: “peace be upon him”; which, in fact, is an abbreviated version of a longer Revelation: “…may Peace be upon him when he is raised from the dead.”

The meaning of this Revelation pertains very specifically to the context in which a person receives the revelation of the memories of previous lives; which, because it includes memories of previous lives and deaths, is an extremely traumatic experience; most Muslims, however, accepting too unquestioningly the Muslim religious ‘authorities’ disinterpretation of the Doctrine of “resurrection”, being unaware of the deeper significance of this Revelation.

Mi cha el

michael,

are you saying you believe in Allah??

you are saying that all of us gets a glimps into our past lives? then have you seen your past life?

this post seems confusing

reply to post by Michael Cecil

sounds like you are misinterpreting the qur'an to endorse your of belief of reincarnation/resurrection?

I have never seen a mention of 'past lives' in any islamic readings.

They dont mention past lives.

40 days after conception, your soul is given into your body.
you go through life which is a test for your soul (so be calm, peaceful and ignore that jerk tailgating you, hes there to test you).
at death:
==> if good, your soul is gently taken from your body by angels (you are assigned 2. 1 writes down your good deeds. 1 writes down your bad. they are with you always) and you are comforted for awhile, once your body is buried, your soul is laid to rest with it until the day of judgement (end-of-times).
==> if bad, your soul is ripped from you. you will know you have done bad. you will ponder your destination until you too are raised to face your judgement.

On the day of judgement, everyone will be raised from the dead (spirit not body), to face god's judgement based on their deeds done while alive. If the book containing you deeds is given to you in your right hand - heaven; in the left hand, hell. You will be asked to explain your actions. Your good and bad will be balanced on a scale.

One life of testing. One rise from the grave. Two possible destinations.

Originally posted by saabacura
michael,

are you saying you believe in Allah??

I have NO idea in the world how you define the word "Allah".

Mohammed received the same Revelations that were received by Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and Jesus. There are numerous echoes throughout the Quran of those previous Revelations.

you are saying that all of us gets a glimps into our past lives?

One of the more humorous Revelations in the Quran is that people 'will be arguing about the "resurrection" until the Judgement overtakes them'.

But, if you ask a Muslim religious 'authority' what that argument consists of, he will have no idea.

He will speculate that the argument is between those who believe in the doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave and those who do not.

But those people typically do not "argue".

Those beliefs are so opposite, that those people typically ignore each other altogether.

Rather, the argument is over those who say that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth' and those who believe that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is a doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave...

Whereupon that religious 'authority' will say: "No it isn't."

And he will say "No it isn't" until the Judgement Day, when he personally and individually receives the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

then have you seen your past life?

I have received numerous memories of one previous life in particular over a period of more than 30 years.

And I have received memories of numerous previous lives at the 'time' of the "resurrection".

Mi cha el

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
reply to post by Michael Cecil

 

sounds like you are misinterpreting the qur'an to endorse your of belief of reincarnation/resurrection?

Of course it does.

I have never seen a mention of 'past lives' in any islamic readings.

Of course you haven't.

Just like the Pharisees and the Pharisaical Christians, the Muslim religious 'authorities' have fallen hook, line and sinker for the pagan-Egyptian metaphysical disinterpretation of the Doctrine of "resurrection".

As Jesus said, "the road to life is narrow and few take that road"; which is why there are also hundreds of millions of Muslims who are following the pagan disinterpretation of the Doctrine of "resurection" in violation of the Revelations in the Quran

[metaphysical speculation/disinterpretation of the Revelations in the Quran deleted.]

Mi cha el

You need to learn about Islam more Micheal! It's a wonderful and dangerous religion. Like many others out there in the past and today.
Isa

n Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى عليه السلام‎, Nabi Isa) is considered to be a Messenger of God who was sent to guide the People of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl or Gospel. The Qur'an, considered by Muslims to be God's final and authoritative revelation to humankind, mentions Jesus twenty-five times. It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God rather than his own power. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven. Islamic tradition and commentaries states that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist). Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" in submission to God's will. Islam rejects the idea that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, that he was ever crucified or resurrected, or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind. The Qur'an emphasizes the belief that Jesus himself never claimed any such thing, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and that Allah will vindicate him. Rather, the Qur'an emphasizes that Jesus was a mortal man who, like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing the notion of God's divine oneness (tawhīd). Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Masīḥ ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although this particular term does not correspond with the meaning given to it by Christians or Jews. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.

Originally posted by Romantic_RebelYou need to learn about Islam more Micheal! It's a wonderful and dangerous religion.

Islam is a dangerous religion for two reasons:

1) If the Muslims contradict the Revelations in the Quran--which they have in the same degree that the Christians have turned the Teaching of Jesus upside down (and with the same consequences)--the consequence is blood-thirsty Islamic terrorism. This has resulted in the merciless slaughter of not only Jews and Christians; but, also, Sunnis against Shi'ites and vice versa.

2) But, if the Muslims were to adhere rigidly to the Revelations in the Quran-specifically, that the Doctrine of the "resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; and that Mohammed was Elijah and John the Baptist 'raised from the dead'--that would seriously threaten the economic interests of not only Judaeo-Christianity, Inc.; but, also, Islamism, Inc.

Thus, the "dragon" media and the "beast of the earth" religious 'authorities' have made a very specific choice between which "danger of Islam" they would prefer:

They prefer the dangerous Islam that results in blood-thirsty Islamic terrorism rather than the danger of the Islam that teaches the Truth about the Doctrine of "resurrection"; and which, for that reason, would threaten the economic interests of Judaeo-Christianity-Islamism, Inc.

And, of course, the Muslim religious 'authorities' will say that I am the "dajjal" for saying so; when, in fact, it is both the consciousness of the 'thinker' and the monotheistic religious establishment itself which is the "beast of the earth" manifestation of the consciousness of the 'thinker' symbolized in Sura 27:82 of the Quran.

Mi cha el

What the hell is going on with the recent insurgence of religious doctrines?

I read a report that said religion, and by that it meant Christian beliefs, were on an uprise in America. Why I wondered, not for long, as I realized the arch nemesis card, better known as the Muslim card since the days of the crusades, was being replayed as the world had entered yet another period of strife and warfare of both the mental and physical kind.

Divide and conquer.

I don't care for what is written in your holy books Michael, I care for what is. Can you tell me what is? Can you open your eyes and avert your face from the writings to see reality? If not then the writings about the afterlife which you do not KNOW to exist is worthless.

Originally posted by Zamini Can you tell me what is?

What is is that the Creator has Absolute Control over His creation.

Everyone will live another life and lives in this world, during which they will be rewarded or punished in accordance with their adherence or repudiation of the Moral Law; and, in one or more lives, will receive a revelation of the memories of those previous lives.

The Buddhists call it 'Rebirth'.

The prophets of the monotheistic religions call it the "resurrection".

The Sadducees and the Vatican call it "being possessed by demons" (L'Osservatore Romano, Easter issue, 1991).

The theologians of the monotheistic religions call it a 'New Age' doctrine of Satan (despite the fact there is a specific Prophecy of words that are to remain "secret and Sealed until the time of the End" in the Book of Daniel).

The psychiatrists of Western psychiatry call it "schizophrenia" or some such nonsensical term.

And many, many millions of people of the Eastern religions accept it as a ho-hum matter of fact.

Take your pick.

Mi cha el

Have you ever considered what people could achieve if they did not devote their lives to an ancient horror story, which is full of failed prophecies, and outdated backwards laws based on ignorance, that really have no application now? A system that purposely keeps humanity anchored in ignorance and punishes free thinking and progress?

Most war exists because religion has purposefully created divisions. The books people blindly and ignorantly follow command some absolutely sickening things in the name of "righteousness" and "justice". I hate religion with every part of my being, it is the most disgusting invention of man, ever. Religions have swarmed the planet, infected it if you will, wiping out entire civilisations and replacing cultures with their own.

I completely refuse to believe that a benevolent god would create a system like this and force all of humanity to follow it or burn in hellfire for eternity. Such a thing is absolutely horrendous. It robs us of our very lives. This could very well be all there is, and we should treat it as such. Respecting right to life, and the planet, while enriching knowledge and our advancement as a species in harmony with nature, using the tools nature gives us. Not restricting it because some people want it all for themselves.

Allah, mohammed, jehovah, jesus, john, elijah, abraham - all of them are irrelevant. They are either made up characters or their stories have been grossly exaggerated in order to make the myth more powerful. Not a single one of them have contributed positively, their legacy lives on in the hearts of the corrupted and evil elite.

NOBODY knows for sure what comes after this life. EVERYTHING is just ideas - there is no absolute truth that has been revealed to us, for if it was, we would all KNOW it and not need a corrupt system that benefits the elite rung of humanity at the expense of not only the rest of humanity but all life on this planet. Stop wasting your time on crap like this and concentrate on what really matters.

reply to post by Michael Cecil


Sorry, that answer does not slide.

Little kids dying of hunger. Why?

Japan dumping rice in the ocean. Why?

Complete control? More like complete chaos.

Morality is the devils spear. It is universal law that should count should we want to progress as species. Not some twisted morals that are different in every single dang culture. I understand you are talking in the metaphysical sense but come to reality for a second. What is?

Originally posted by Zamini

Sorry, that answer does not slide.

Well, I did tell you to take your pick, did I not?

come to reality for a second. What is?

This, too, I discuss on my website: There are three dimensions of consciousness: the consciousness of the "self", the cosnciousness of the 'thinker', and what is referred to as the "observing consciousness" of the Eastern esoteric traditions and the writings of J. Krishnamurti.

The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' are dualistic.

The "observing consciousness" is non-dualistic.

In the Revelations of the monotheistic religions, the non-dualistic consciousness is termed the consciousness 'Created by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27).

Again, take your pick.

Mi cha el

Originally posted by EnactedEgoTrip Have you ever considered what people could achieve if they did not devote their lives to an ancient horror story, which is full of failed prophecies, and outdated backwards laws based on ignorance, that really have no application now?

Have you ever considered what people could achieve if they followed not the theologies of the Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities; but, rather, the Revelation of the "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'?

Those theologies have resulted in unimaginable horrors and genocides of Jews, Christians and Muslims.

How many Buddhists have been involved in such genocides?

Just asking.

And, yet, the monotheistic religions consider themselves vastly SUPERIOR to the atheism of the Buddhists.

Hell fire.

I prefer even the 'atheism' of the Buddhists to the 'theism' of the typical Jewish, Christian or Muslim Fundamentalist; who, at the drop of a hat, is prepared to EXTERMINATE all of the others.

Mi cha el

reply to post by Michael Cecil


I have always been the observer if you must know so there isn't much else that I can pick. But the observer also thinks and the observer is aware of the self as well. Would you not agree that all three should be experienced should one want to move past the sense of duality?

I don't know if you're familiar with zoroastrianism, but, the notion of dualism was coined in the Avesta and it was also said that this dualism is the cause for strife in this world and should we move past this dualism(by means of morals as you said in the other thread - and moral for zoroastrians was meant as universal moral) is when unity comes into reality.

Do you know what the punishment for a crime that hurt another person was in those times? Fully plant an acre of ground!

its my understanding that mankind is given only one death per person...

for many if not most the physical death is the only death they will experience...ergo no multiple lives...

for those that choose the surreal world of religious concoction, those who elect to believe in
the tree-of-life, immortal souls (the 'good' go to bliss, the 'bad' go to torment) and other fictional
realities conjured in the minds of believers, they can face the 'death' of their faith created spiritual bodies

only those who practice the surreal reality of religion have a 'spiritual body' that is 'born' & joined to
their physical bodies...all other humanity has only the one, singular, physical body to be boss over.
In the surreal reality that is shared between all the believers, a re-birth can be had, and that rebirth
can happen on different levels---in a manner of being elevated to a higher plane of duty to G0D i.e. being resurrected to a higher service in this mundane world...changing one's life and drive...
or else by suddenly exhibiting any one of the 7 'gifts' of the spirit.

Contemporary role playing games are a close analog to the surreal reality of the religious believer...
if one chooses to embark on the journey of having a soul or spiritual body intertwined with their
physical body, then they are like the man-in-the-iron-mask...forever (in this life) chained to that
surreal reality, there's no escape, one must therefore aspire to that elusive Book-of-Life entry.

Therefore, non adults should not be forced into the bondage of religious belief...
consider that even Jesus asked that the grown men he considered as candidates, to elect
to follow him and become disciples...
the Bible stories conceal (in the open) that major point...
open your minds & discern the forces at work in the world...
will you be known as a willing 'servant' or bondage 'slave' ? its your choice







I myself elected to remain an independent contractor, in this, my only mortal incarnation

Originally posted by Zamini
I have always been the observer if you must know so there isn't much else that I can pick. But the observer also thinks and the observer is aware of the self as well. Would you not agree that all three should be experienced should one want to move past the sense of duality?

I deal in much more detail with subjects such as this in my writings as "4Q529" on the Dialogue Forum of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America (kfa.org)

In any case, the 'thinker' 'thinks', the 'feeler' 'feels'...

And there are observations of an "observing consciousness" which are beyond duality.

I don't know if you're familiar with zoroastrianism, but, the notion of dualism was coined in the Avesta and it was also said that this dualism is the cause for strife in this world and should we move past this dualism(by means of morals as you said in the other thread - and moral for zoroastrians was meant as universal moral) is when unity comes into reality.

Well, transcending the duality of both the "beast of the sea"-consciousness of the "self" and the "beast of the earth"-consciousness of the 'thinker' is the principal focus of the Buddhist esoteric tradition as well.

Mi cha el

Originally posted by St Udio
its my understanding that mankind is given only one death per person...

Of course. Of course.

And the religious 'authorities' have been very well paid to tell you those lies because those lies are pleasurable to you; and one thing you are willing to pay good money for is intellectual pleasure.

But, when it comes to the Truth, you will not part with even so much as ONE red cent.

Jesus warned against selling the Teaching.

Why?

Because the Truth must be given for free. It is only lies that are 'worth' any money.

But hundreds of millions of Christians have simply ignored this warning of Jesus.

As they have ignored his Teaching on the "resurrection".

Mi cha el

reply to post by Michael Cecil
Michael Cecil,

While it is true most Christians cannot interpret the prophecies especially the Rev. of John and then all the others that is no reason for me to discard them. I'll leave you to the Quran as I have no need for it whatsoever. Our old KJV Bible lays it out strait on a fifth grade level, the language is old english but it doesn't take long to understand where it differs in meaning. The prophecy of it interprets itself and if you don't allow it to do that it isn't going to happen as expected. The prophecies that have come to pass prove it exactly.

I've wondered are you a Christian? The Quran?

Truthiron.