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Quote from : Wikipedia : Oklahoma City Bombing : Others
When McVeigh was asked if there were other conspirators in the bombing, he replied:
"Because the truth is, I blew up the Murrah Building, and isn't it kind of scary that one man could wreak this kind of hell?"
On the morning of McVeigh's execution a letter was released in which he had written.
"For those die-hard conspiracy theorists who will refuse to believe this, I turn the tables and say:
Show me where I needed anyone else.
Financing?
Logistics?
Specialized tech skills?
Brainpower?
Strategy?
... Show me where I needed a dark, mysterious 'Mr. X'!"
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Quote from : Wikipedia : Overton Window
The Overton window, in political theory, describes a "window" in the range of public reactions to ideas in public discourse, in a spectrum of all possible options on a particular issue.
It is named after its originator, Joseph P. Overton, former vice president of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
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Quote from : Wikipedia : Dialectic : Hegelian Dialectic
The formula, Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis, does not explain why the Thesis requires an Antithesis.
However, the formula, Abstract-Negative-Concrete, suggests a flaw in any initial thesis—it is too abstract and lacks the negative of trial, error and experience.
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Originally posted by Misoir
I understand the point of your thread, as long as they change the issues they are allowed to change the political spectrum. They have made Constitutionalist appear as the enemy to our current freedoms and our government when in reality being a Constitutionalist is being an American. Believing in the founding principles of our nation does not make us crazy or a domestic terrorist, it makes us Patriots. Of course Constitutionalists can range from the people wearing the Statue of Liberty outfit to those Democrats who just want a fair shake.
Originally posted by Misoir
Just 50 years ago if you said you loved the Constitution no one would even respond back because everyone else did too. Today if you say you love the Constitution you will get a handful of people talking to you and a handful of people whispering about how crazy you are. That is not American at all.
Quote from : Wikipedia : Frank Olson
Frank Olson (July 17, 1910 – November 28, 1953) was a U.S. Army biological warfare specialist employed at Fort Detrick in Maryland, who was at first said to have taken his own life due to depression.
Later it came out, in the 1970s, that he had been given '___' without his knowledge at a joint meeting between CIA spies and US Army biowarfare experts, who cooperated on biological weapons and toxins and drugs under the umbrella of MKNAOMI and MKULTRA.
This was said to have driven him to leap out of a hotel window ten days later.
Allegations pointed to the CIA having assassinated Frank Olson over fears that he would reveal the entire U.S. biological warfare program, as well as the chemical interrogation program, to the press.
Originally posted by Misoir
Our nation has changed and not for the better, when they are allowed to destroy the true meaning of the Constitution we will no longer know our own freedoms and will not be able to protect ourselves from illegal government acts.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!
Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
I think I should let Barry Goldwater sum it up.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!
giving up our freedoms is paramount to treason.
the building contained regional offices for the Social Security Administration, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF).
Michael Fortier (born 1968) and Lori Fortier, American husband and wife, were accomplices in the Oklahoma City bombing and key informants in the trials of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. Fortier helped McVeigh and Nichols move and sell stolen guns and survey the building in anticipation of the attack. Lori forged a driver's license for McVeigh.[1] In a plea bargain, they testified against McVeigh and Nichols at their federal trials and against Nichols at his state trial. Michael was sentenced to 12 years in prison and fined $200,000 on May 27, 1998 for failing to warn authorities about the attack, and Lori was granted immunity from prosecution. Fortier's fine was subsequently lowered to $75,000. [2] Michael served his sentence under an assumed name as part of a witness protection program.[3] He was released from prison on January 20, 2006 and entered into the Witness Protection Program with a new identity.[4][5] Legal analyst Irven Box surmised that his sentence was shortened because of good behavior, and that time served before sentencing was taken into account.[6]
The circumstances surrounding this interview will be explained at the end of the interview. It is more important that the words are heard, and heeded. OPF: Hello. Mike! How are you today? MF: Well, all things considered, I'm doing all right. How about you? OPF: Fine! Well, let's get on with it. Okay? MF: Sure, but first let me say that I am extremely disappointed in what calls itself the patriots in this country. OPF: I'm curious as to what you mean by that, but let's go back to the beginning. You met Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols while serving in the army. Did you have any common interests with them? MF: Yes, all three of us were marksmen and enjoyed shooting. We had a friendship that got us into a lot of conversations and, well, they led to our feelings about government. Terry seemed to have most of the information about what was going on at first. But, Tim started collecting information, tapes and videos and things, and sharing it with Terry and I. Even after we got out of the army we stayed in touch, real close with Tim, and Terry came along sometimes. Tim, when he heard about Waco just went bananas. He had this video, Waco, The Big Lie, and he showed it to me and says we gotta do something. He played me some tapes of a radio show by the person who made the video, that was Linda Thompson, the attorney. She said things like "we gotta take out government agents. No questions asked." Tim was really hot over what the government did in Waco.
Originally posted by Brood
giving up our freedoms is paramount to treason.
Doesn't treason get the death penalty? Isn't that why Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building? Because the officials inside were comitting treason by defiling our rights?
What went on in the building is the question that nobody asks before labeling him a terrorist like they want you to so that you don't see why he did it.
the building contained regional offices for the Social Security Administration, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF).
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The more and more that the American Government kills off people that they label "terrorists", the more synonymous i find "terrorist" to "martyr".