HUGE media blackout regarding Earth and Moon orbital changes?

I thought this was very interesting as I have recently thought that the moon and sun have been rising and setting in strange area's of the sky...And then I found this article and was wondering if our ATSers had any input on this phenomenon...or is it a figment of my/our imagination(s)?

An increasing number of people around the world have witnessed amazing changes in the location of Sun rise and set in summer and winter. Apparently this is being caused by the earth moving below the old ecliptic plane in summer and above it in winter! The moon is also playing rodeo all over the sky....and the media says nothing. I have read of reports (as yet unsubstantiated) that a "gag order" is in place and professionals dealing with the subject have had to sign non-disclosure agreements regarding these facts. The Inuit peoples of the high arctic have published several stories regarding the changes in sun position at their locations and were told by a meteorologist that it is an "optical phenomenon unique to the extremely high horizon". Yet these changes are visible all over the world.

Full article here - ______beforeitsnews/story/229/227/HUGE_media_blackout_regarding_Earth_and_Moon_orbital_changes.html

www.abovetopsecret.com...

is that the same as this thread..if so...very interesting....

AGREE, shifting of earths axis, people are not experiencing the same timeline they were born into. Long short thats mho.

Always S@F on this subject!

yep there's already a thread here about this here

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Mythkiller


One bad news source that draws on other bad news sources is a lousy place to get facts. Not a single link to any facts, only anecdotal stuff.

Do you have an evidence that this is factual. I can't find any and if this were true, every Astronomer and amateur Astronomer would be all over it. The programs that find things for them when aiming their telescopes would have all failed and no way would they not notice. So are all these people keeping a huge dark secret or is that just a bad news story from a bad news source?

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Clearly the gag order is what is preventing anyone with stereoscopic vision and a bit of critical thinking from saying anything.

My polar aligned GOTO telescope has not been having any problems finding the sun, moon, any planets, or tracking the sidereal motion of the sky. It's running on approximately 15 year old software and it's hard coded into its computer, the resulting coordinates of which also agree with even older sources of ephemeris of the moon and other objects, so there's not even the possibility of a conspiracy to cover up any "changes" to our orbit or our tilt. People may think they're seeing things, but close examination of the sky reveals that nothing is out of place.

Ive been looking into this one all night. Almost anyone who views Astronomy using geosych. setups claim no such problems with sun or lunar orbits. In the event did have such a blackout maybe it is mere misleading to a greater anomaly in the skies above.... I havent had much luck retrieving satellite images in my area everytime the GD Chemtrails start at 17:10- 17:35 every nite for about a month now. (i am located about 40mi. N. of houston,tx..
I have seen sat images in the past(or rather recent) That show the entire planet covered in "chemtrails" ...
but who knows...

People never look at the sky, and when they finally do things appear strange to them. Someone once said that something weird was going on because the moon was visible during the day.

Originally posted by Slih_09
People never look at the sky, and when they finally do things appear strange to them. Someone once said that something weird was going on because the moon was visible during the day.

I totally agree, we spend most of our time watching TV or staring at the computer screen in our safe little houses. The moon could change colour and 99.9% of the earths population wouldnt even notice.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by Mythkiller

 

One bad news source that draws on other bad news sources is a lousy place to get facts. Not a single link to any facts, only anecdotal stuff.

Do you have an evidence that this is factual. I can't find any and if this were true, every Astronomer and amateur Astronomer would be all over it. The programs that find things for them when aiming their telescopes would have all failed and no way would they not notice. So are all these people keeping a huge dark secret or is that just a bad news story from a bad news source?

Since you ignored the link in the previous thread, here it is again:
New documentary recounts bizarre climate changes seen by Inuit elders

Just to clarify, are you referring to beforeitsnews as the bad source, or the Inuits? This is not the first news story I've seen about this in Canada. This appears to be a follow-up story to the documentary that was done addressing it and other changes observed in Canada's Arctic for some time now.

Originally posted by 11I11

Originally posted by Slih_09
People never look at the sky, and when they finally do things appear strange to them. Someone once said that something weird was going on because the moon was visible during the day.

I totally agree, we spend most of our time watching TV or staring at the computer screen in our safe little houses. The moon could change colour and 99.9% of the earths population wouldnt even notice.

Please keep in mind that the people you are talking about are not oblivious to the natural world around them. These are people that make their lives using the knowledge they have about their environment and the delicate ecosystem it is proving to be.

What I find interesting is that when they contacted the scientific community, all they got was flat out refusals to entertain such a notion, that it was impossible. Seeing as how they have been noticing this phenomena for apparently some time, what harm would it do to send a team up with the equipment to debunk this for the Inuit communities if it is so easily done?

Originally posted by Kennit
Since you ignored the link in the previous thread, here it is again:
New documentary recounts bizarre climate changes seen by Inuit elders

Just to clarify, are you referring to beforeitsnews as the bad source, or the Inuits? This is not the first news story I've seen about this in Canada. This appears to be a follow-up story to the documentary that was done addressing it and other changes observed in Canada's Arctic for some time now.

I have my doubts about the inuit account, to be honest, but if it's true it must be a localized phenomenon, something to do with local changes in the atmospheric refraction index because I do not observe the deviations they claim to observe, even at sunrise, and I've directly measured the position of the pole relative to the stars recently and there's nothing wrong with it to within a fraction of a degree far, far smaller than what human vision can perceive:
Here is a photo from mid-November of this year:
www.flickr.com...
Astrometry reveals that at 1:1 scale, the image angular resolution is 51.32 arcseconds per pixel:
www.flickr.com...
Polaris coordinates precessed to 2010 are 02h 43m 44.22s, 89d 18' 25.7" so it should have an offset from the north celestial pole of 2494.3 arcseconds. I measure Polaris to be 48.5 pixels offset from the north celestial pole in this image.
i319.photobucket.com...
That equates to an offset of 2489.02 arcseconds, well within the 51 arcsecond angular resolution of the photo itself.

There's a glaring technical error in the writing of the story too:

"Even stranger is the fact that the sun now appears to set many kilometres off its usual point on the horizon ...
The scientific explanation is that the warming Arctic air is causing temperature inversions, which in turn cause the light of the sunset to refract so that the sun appears to be setting a few kilometres off-kilter."

No astronomer would describe the rising point, or a change in the rising point, of the sun as a distance. That's just wrong. It's an angle, not a distance. Even if you're using some object or terrain near the horizon as your reference point, that's an arbitrary measurement unless you describe it as an angle. It does seem likely that's how the measurement was made, but then it leads to questions of how accurately they determined the spot at which the measurement is made; if your measurement spot changes, parallax can cause a false perception of a shift relative to your landmark.

nope, all ok in the night sky.... jupiter dazzling us all through the night....it's moons are fast to show a different configuration...and that's venus rising too bright these days
it's in the east in the morning....brighter than possible...it must be close huh!