posted on Oct, 22 2010 @ 08:04 PM
reply to post by prophecy4
First of all, ALL religions are not telling the exact same story at all. When you refer to ALL religions i wonder do you mean ALL religions that have
ever existed or just the few you can name that are monotheistic. There have ben many reliigons who worshiped the elements of fire, water etc because
they saw the destructive as well as life giving properties these elements have and assigned divine attributes to them. They just had to have some kind
of divine intelligence in them. The romans worshiped multiple gods and most of those gods were given attributes that helped explain very basic tings
right here on earth. A god of war, not man responsible but a being who was in charge of that as well as a god of the seas that controlled the sea
itself. A god of thunder and storms and so on and so on. They choose to express with a divine nature the very things they couldnt understand with
science. Today you would be hard pressed to find someone who worshiped posiedon and didnt think the sea was a nature thing with a scientific
explanation for how it worked instead of a god making the seas move.
The fact is throughout time religion has varied quite alot in the basic and i mean basic beliefs of where we come from and how we got here. It has not
always been about a single sky daddy who made it all. Why is it such a hard concept for people to get their minds around that the universe may exist
for the sake of existing and nothing else. That it was a natural course of itself to just be. Most people cannot wrapped their minds around such a
concept as spontaneous existence that it had to have a intelligent designer behind it all becuse of 2 reasons. 1. that the universe is so fast and
immeasurably complex that it could not have just popped into being. 2nd and most importantly is that ther eis nothing in our existence that doesnt
somehow have a creator. Nothing. Even the animals and plants come from somewhere. They are not the first plants or animals but they came from
something. Something created it. What we struggle with is where and how did it all first start. So because everything on this planet even the thnigs
WE make we created and didnt just pop into existence. SO therefor the universe had to have a creator. Some intelligence to design and bring about its
creation. If there isnt then all this has no purpose because it wasnt created for a purpose. To exist without design is to exist without purpose and
therefore there is no meaning in life. NO reason for life to exist. It just exists till it one day wont.
This is something that most people on this planet will just not accept. So they toil in their minds over who this creator is and why did he create us.
The problem i see with this is 2 fold. First, that if he did create us for a purpose then he surely isnt telling us. Yeah i know your going to say oh
yes he did my bible says he did. Its to love each other and to learn while we are on this plane yada yada yada. Well guess what. People have been on
this planet for countless thousands of years before there was ever even word from the christian or islamic or jewish god. My question to him would be
simple if i ever meet him. Why did you wait so long and allow your creation to die for thousands of years before you stepped up and said hey look i am
here.?
That brings me to the second part of the issue with a divine designer. If you take into account how microscopicly small we are in the whole vastness
of the universe, and then compare that to whatever deity created it, your left with the idea that such a deity would have to exist outside this
universe. He would have came first and exist apart and maybe some part within his own universe. Maybe its apart of himself i dont know but definetly
he would be greater than his creation. Now zooom all the way down to the microscopic planet earth with its even smaller microscopic life form man and
tell me how this divine being is even aware of us or has any time for us? Yes he may have created us but he is soooooo far above us that we could
never possibly hope to understand what it is or even know its there. We want to kid ourselves into thinking god is always there and just within reach,
not far at all but i have to think if size matters in this universe as well as time, then we are way to small of a creation to be noticed. As well as
time goes, our existence in this universe is but the mere fraction of a blink of an eye not even the whole blink compared to the amount of time this
universe we occupy has existed. So said being would be just as old or older if not older by powers of 10 or more. Who knows how many times this being
has created universes and destroyed them. So tell me. do you really think sky father is truly as small of a being as you think he is and that in the
whole grand scheme of things and the mere size and wonder of this universe, even takes notice of something so small as us?
Does that even seem logical? To me it doesnt. It makes a hell of a lot more sense to just accept that we are here. Screw how we got here and why we
were put here. The truth is noone is coming to tell us. Man has sought to create answers to those questions throughout time and to use the answers
they come up with to control and subjugate other men to their will for power and wealth. for as long as religion has been a tool to help man find his
place in the universe and understand why we are here, it has also been a tool to control people with fear of their own mortality. Religion seeks to
explain the most fundamental question of all. Is there nothing more than this? Is there something after this or did i exist for no purpose. Man has
always been aware how mortal he is and how fragile his life is. So we have to know that when we die it doesnt just end. But what if it does. The good
news is this. If it does then you wont be sitting somewhere worried about it.
I am not sure if there was a creator but i feel if there was and we are so important to him that he does take notice of us, then we have surely gotten
very wrong our expression of that divine force. I do noth think such a being would be reachable by us on this level of existence. It would be like us
trying to understand what it is like to be wind or for water to dream of being human. His would be an existence so unlike ours we could not ever ever
think to come close to understanding or reaching it.
I will throw a what if your way. What if there is more than one god? What if there is a creator of the entire universe and he created what we tink of
as god in heaven and jesus or whatever. What if that creator has created many many beings to be our caretakers and watch over us because he is just
way way to far apart from us to be able to. Try reaching into a petri dish and moving an ameoba around. cant be done. But we can create viruses and
other things on the same level to do what we need done can we not? I know that isnt a great comparison but i think you get my meaning. As far as
evidence goes, in case anyone would say well weres your evidence that this theory could be true and i say ther eisnt any as far as i know. However in
the real of religion and things unknown all we have is a historical record repleat with other peoples ideas and beliefs with still yet no proof in any
of their god or gods either. Just a bunch of people who practiced said religions and no proof to back up their claims. We have proof on this planet
people practice religion, just no proof their gods really existed.