Time Traveller Caught on 1928 Charlie Chaplin Film?

now, ive been following this thread from it's start, and have been baffled and amazed at the actual footage. for years, i've been seeing more and more accounts and instances that seem paranormal, or on-the-fringe of things, involving Charlie Chaplin, and is starting to make me really wonder about who the TRUE Charlie Chaplin really was.......???

one really odd occurance that almost nobody talks about, and i definitely haven't heard come up in this thread at all, is the weird instance that happened to one of Charlie Chaplin's stunt-doubles, whom was also his friend, when he suddenly disappeared for a week during the filming of Chaplin's film, "By The Sea" in southern california, and was even more mysteriously found, in Charlie's dressing room, by Chaplin himself...!:

Charlie Chaplin used to own several of the large buildings that sit near or along the famous Venice Beach Boardwalk in Los Angeles. In the day, these buildings were commonly used as bath houses or lodging for wealthy vacationers. Today, these buildings have been converted to apartment buildings for the local artists, musicians, and other creative types that now inhabit Venice Beach. Incidentally these buildings cradle around the famous Building Number 26 on Westminster Ave. It has been documented in print as well as Chaplin`s films that during the early 1900`s he did much of his filming in and around these properties on Westminster Avenue. In 1915, during the filming of "By the Sea" Chaplin`s stunt double mysteriously disappeared from the film set. Production was put on hold for three days and a full on manhunt was instated. After turning up emptyhanded, it was assumed that the long time friend of Chaplin`s must have quit and left on his on recognizance. The studios that were financially backing the film, were losing money. Under haste, Chaplin was forced to replace his stunt double and continue production of the film. On the seventh day after the disappearance, Chaplin returned to his dressing room after a day of shooting. His dressing room was located in the basement of the now famous Building number 26 on Westminster. It is documented that Chaplin, while accompanied by an entourage, entered the room to discover his stunt double and long time friend lying dead on the floor, wet and covered in seaweed. The man appeared to have been deceased for several days. How he had ended up on the floor of Chaplin`s dressing room after missing for almost an entire week, is still to this day a complete mystery.

....and just knowing that, on top of this really weird and questionable footage, with to my honest opinion and explanations given so far - CANNOT BE EXPLAINED (especially when trying to make out what s/he's actually saying in the footage), and along with Charlie's speech given in the film, "The Great Dictator", (which you can find out more about on ATS here: www.abovetopsecret.com...), and just researching for yourself more into his history.... it starts to paint a very suspicious and odd picture that he might just be more than what he actually ever admitted to being or knowing.... whatever that might be or mean..........????

All I can say is wow... everything can only come down to speculation because it does inarguably appear that he/she is talking on a cell phone. Lets take this into consideration:
1. he... she.... IT is clearly mouthing words.
2. The man in front of her is walking briskly, far out in front and she is laxadaisically walking, talking and looking at the camera so it doesnt seem she is talking to him. If she isnt talking to him, then who? There is nobody else around.
3. There is speculation that this is simply a "shadow". Here are a few enhanced images of the shadow. It is clearly a three dimensional object.

4. If she is an actor/extra why is she looking at the camera when that is clearly a big no-no.
5. She just appears strange... strangely dressed, completely covered up, bulky clothing... the man in front of her has easily distinguishable features but she is a mystery.

Theres just too much mystery here... I believe that there is something else going on. I dont buy the whole "hearing aid" thing. She has a hearing aid when the nearest person to her is 8-10 feet away by now and she is talking to him? I know if my girlfriend is 8-10 feet away in a store or on the street im not sitting there talking as is she's right next to me, i'd feel like an idiot and I think we can all agree he is walking at a far faster pace than she is, appearing heavy and "trudding" along. If I am out with someone I dont walk at a speed like he is OR at quite a distance either. He doesnt even acknowledge her in the slightest and he does not appear to be talking. I think we can all agree that he and she are completely unrelated in this matter. Great thread. Amazing stuff.

I dont believe that discovery explanation at all... even SHE said that you wouldnt normally hold a hearing device like that. Also if she was just testing that, she would say a word or 2, probably hello, hello to test it. She is consistently talking in the clip saying different words it appears.

Originally posted by ZyPHeR
All I can say is wow... everything can only come down to speculation because it does inarguably appear that he/she is talking on a cell phone. Lets take this into consideration:
1. he... she.... IT is clearly mouthing words.
2. The man in front of her is walking briskly, far out in front and she is laxadaisically walking, talking and looking at the camera so it doesnt seem she is talking to him. If she isnt talking to him, then who? There is nobody else around.
3. There is speculation that this is simply a "shadow". Here are a few enhanced images of the shadow. It is clearly a three dimensional object.

4. If she is an actor/extra why is she looking at the camera when that is clearly a big no-no.
5. She just appears strange... strangely dressed, completely covered up, bulky clothing... the man in front of her has easily distinguishable features but she is a mystery.

Theres just too much mystery here... I believe that there is something else going on. I dont buy the whole "hearing aid" thing. She has a hearing aid when the nearest person to her is 8-10 feet away by now and she is talking to him? I know if my girlfriend is 8-10 feet away in a store or on the street im not sitting there talking as is she's right next to me, i'd feel like an idiot and I think we can all agree he is walking at a far faster pace than she is, appearing heavy and "trudding" along. If I am out with someone I dont walk at a speed like he is OR at quite a distance either. He doesnt even acknowledge her in the slightest and he does not appear to be talking. I think we can all agree that he and she are completely unrelated in this matter. Great thread. Amazing stuff.

There is no particular reason to think that He/she is an actor, since the film is documentary in origin..look at the sign on the wall in the video.

Great find. I watched your film and noticed in the last couple of frames, it looks as if she is see through? You can see the drapes behind her but through her, if you know what I mean? My ex tooka photo like this at a Rememberance Day gathering for the soldiers of war who have died. Everyone in the crowd were in up to date clothing but a woman stood in 40's style clothing, looking straight at the camera but she was see through as the tree behind her could be see through her. I wish I had that pic to show you?
My thoughts are that its interdimensional tears in space/time that for a brief moment people, events from another dimension fall through into our reality and with the advent of cameras and video recorders, it is captured on film.
I had a weird experience myself walking down Argyle Street in Glasgow. I worked in the city on contract in the bank restaurant and was heading home to get a bus at St Enoch Square. As I turned onto Argyle Street from Buchanan Street I noticed a woman on the other side walking who looked exactly like me, it was me, but I had a suit on and a briefcase. Both of us turned at the same time and looked surprised to see our doppleganger looking at us. In that few seconds it was like time had stood still, no one was there, only me and her.
Then just as quickly as it happened, I carried on walking and looked back to find her gone.
Was this a rip in time/space? I think it was as in that time I was working doing manual work in kitchens, restaurants. but a few years later I went to college to study journalism. I got a job in the national newspaper for Scotland, The Daily Record and guess what, I wore a suit and carried a briefcase!!!
I could not have predicted seeing myself in the future as that day I thought it was just an optical illusion. Anyone else have this experience???

Originally posted by Truthhunter80
Well just for fun I'll post a link to cracked.com's article on this very subject - if you're unfamiliar with cracked.com, they're a humor site that sometimes uses FOUL language.

As such, much of what they write should be taken with a grain of salt, but sometimes even the weirdest things give food for thoughts (plus they have some other very good articles that could eventually spawn some great topics on ATS).

The big news crossing the trivial-news desks this week was the discovery of some old Charlie Chaplin footage from the 1920s which appeared to show a woman talking on a cell phone.

cracked.com

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Ok so i just checked this link and on a photo that was posted you can clearly see that there is something being held in the persons hand, what it is who knows but definatly something there. Look at the dark shape. (little nudity)
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Lol that picture just looks photoshopped in with the white outlines...

Originally posted by daveyboy1991
Lol that picture just looks photoshopped in with the white outlines...

Your help is needed in the Aliens and UFO section.

You are an asset to observation.

-m0r

Here is what she was more than likely using. Its a Hearing Aid. Found this within a min on google.

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Which alphabet agency is it that you work for again?

It's clearly evident that's she/he's a time traveller from planet Zorgon here to start the fiscal crisis of 2012.

I hate disinfo agents.

-m0r

If you want to read about a REAL time traveling experience that at the same time solves the great historical mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau and links to Charlie Chaplin's family, read the book "The Portal" by Patrice Chaplin, Chaplin's first daughter-in-law. She is a playwright and author (one of her books was turned into the Hollywood film "Siesta"). Here is a web page about her:
www.patricechaplin.com...
Before reading this amazing account of her initiation into a secret Spanish society that practised time travel, you should read as background her book "Secrets of Girona", made into this documentary:
vimeo.com...
It describes how she discovered that her lover, the Spanish poet Jose Tarres, was the custodian of this society. It had involved the French priest Berenger Sauniere, who encoded in his church at Rennes-le-Chateau in France the society's great secret about certain Kabbalistic rituals that enabled its members to time travel. She underwent this ritual and passed through a higher-dimensional portal on Mount Canigou to travel back into her past lives. Her book "The Portal" describes her initiation and experience.

If this man/woman where talking on a cell phone ,just who the heck are they talking to?????????There is no support infrastructure for a cell phone in this time.I want to know who's behind the trees in that shot.......Are those aliens?

Talking on a cell phone? Seriously. They did have walkie-talkies in 1928 or perhaps cell phones and other tech were older the you think.

She could have walked through a time warp and is wondering why she can't pick up any bars or she could have been abducted by E.T. and dropped off in the wrong time period. Or she could be in a group of rich time travelers using a communication device or she could be mental and is holding something close to her ear. Honestly we will probably will never know because everyone from that era is dead.

It can also be a bad out take. Perhaps the directors were pressed for content and recreated some behinds the scenes footage which wouldn't be hard. This extra goofed and picked up her phone and the editor missed it figurig nobody will notice.

It could also be an alien with a com device. Honestly I couldn't see it clearly dude. I think you may be mistaken

If you had read the whole thread you would see your not the only people to comment about phone towers, if they could time travel why would they need phone towers

It is clearly a hearing aid build by western electronics. They were new but they did make hearing aids that have the shape of a new HTC cellphone from far away. I believe that time travel is very possible but this seems a little unusual. What reason would a woman with a cell phone want to go back in time to 1928 for? Or god forbid a cross dressing time traveler!. There just isn't much to go on to completely say this might be time travel. The talking and being happy expression on the woman's face probability means that she was exited she has a fancy new hearing aid.

It is the Crank and Wank Time Phone. She is crank calling the future.

I just went to bing and typed in can cell phones talk to each other without a tower. The answer is yes. The company... Motorola and the distance is up to 6 miles. Obviously the time travelers tech of choice to talk to teammates. It's called MOTOTalk.

Originally posted by Volund
I just went to bing and typed in can cell phones talk to each other without a tower. The answer is yes. The company... Motorola and the distance is up to 6 miles. Obviously the time travelers tech of choice to talk to teammates. It's called MOTOTalk.

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edit on 22-3-2011 by Volund because: MOTOTalk

I can paste my links now that I am on a home machine, so please bear with me.

Yes, certain models can communicate directly without a tower. On some models of Motorola handsets, the feature is called MOTOTalk off-network walkie-talkie. On others it is called Direct Talk off-network walkie-talkie. Motorola literature promotes that this communication can work for up to 6 miles. I don't have any personal experience with this exact technology, but would guess that to get a 6 mile range, the conditions would have to be ideal. A couple of miles, is probably much more likely. Source

The Circus finally premiered in New York City on January 6, 1928, at the Strand Theatre, and in Los Angeles on January 27 at Grauman's Chinese Theatre. source

later...

Founding of Company On September 25, 1928, Paul V. Galvin and his brother, Joseph, incorporated Motorola’s founding company—the Galvin Manufacturing Corporation—in Chicago, Illinois, USA. 1928 Battery Eliminator Galvin Manufacturing Corporation's first product was a 1928 battery eliminator. This home electronics device allowed battery-powered radios to run on standard household electric current. The company’s first customer was Sears, Roebuck and Co., which sold battery eliminators to consumers. Source

...the company made history, yet again, by becoming the first to gain an FCC approval for a commercial cellphone device. In 1986, they made another contribution, inventing the Sigma Six quality improvement process which became a global standard in manufacturing and quality assurance. Around this time the company became a leader in semiconductor technology, supplying the central processing units (also known as CPU's) for many of the top-selling computer and videogame console brands of the day; its microprocessors were found in various machines. They also manufactured communications products, products like satellite and digital cable systems hardware. Source

Note: the footage is not from the film itself but rather a shot of people walking in front of the theater at the time of the debut, much like today when ET or TMZ film people just walking because they happen to be there at that time. DVD extras menu in Documents/The Hollywood Premiere.

I think the person even walks carefully like on autopilot when on the phone.

Photo of Motorola's Paul V. Galvin
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I think maybe Galvin was at the bar and a time traveler left the phone on the bar at which point he picked it up and started using it and walked into the film frames. It sure looks like him.