Time Traveller Caught on 1928 Charlie Chaplin Film?

reply to post by shauneastmond


Nice find for being your first post. Also welcome to the ATS family. I can't say it solves this mystery but I can say it does give one something else to think about.

reply to post by Chamberf=6


HIya

regarding no use of cell towers, yesterday this footage came to light of a 1922 film with 2 women using a portable phone to speak to a operator who also played them some music on the gramaphone.
Also we found a patent form 1908 for a mobile phone.

Neither tech required cell towers.

See here.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by OldDragger
Highly suspicious.
If he's a "time traveler", who would he be speaking to on a cellphone?
I'm pretty sure service was spotty in 1928. not many towers then.

well a cell phone uses raido towers so they did have them back then maybe they jury riged it to work off of them and is talking to another time travler

reply to post by zazzafrazz


Yes i totally beleve that that is weird but Stephen Hawking himself said that time travel to the past is impossible. I respect your beliefs but i have my own theory and i hope you dont think its wack. What if they already had cellphones but nobody just told people as in it was kept secret? But i think that the person time traveled half my mind says so. The real question is not if, its why.

even more proof of time travel:

From the first time I saw this, only one explanation seemed to fit:

It's a man (and a not very attractive one, either) covering "his" face so it's not obvious that the extra isn't a real woman. Look at the gait, the ill fitting shoes, the huge hands. Just an old vaudevillian trick of using a man in drag.

reply to post by Buren


Thanks for putting that up for everyone and you've allready got 65,000+ veiws NICE. Im downloading myself agian thanks for the up.

In order to solve this mystery all we have to do is find the owner of a pair of giant pointy shoes, and we've got our man/woman.
But seriously, I really am wondering about those shoes.
I have found a picture of some that look a bit like them, they are on some sort of auction site and are from the 1920s. They are apparently a womans shoes (although I suppose that doesnt discount the fact that there might also be pointy mens shoes available.)

pointy shoes

I suppose it doesn't exactly prove anything but it's sort of interesting.

The time traveler explanation sounds really good, but to me there does not seem to be irrefutable evidence available with just the footage provided. On the other hand, the debunking explanations do not seem to strike a chord either. If this is a traveler then I would doubt they would allow themselves to be filmed or photographed but they might have done this on purpose to gradually introduce current society to the possibility. The device doesn't have to be a cellphone, it could just be a voice recorder. It could also be some sort of comms device too, using something on the lines of quantum entanglement to transfer information back and forth to their point of origin. I wouldn't think the damage of a "paradox" would necessarily prevent this either. The Billiard Ball Theory would cover them in this case...basically nothing that would change the overall course of the Universe could be performed so maybe it is time for time travel to expose itself. One last thought; if this footage was viewed 30 years ago would we come to the same conclusions?

it seems to me that if i was going to travel through time i would want to be prepared so i think i might make sure i had a way of communicating with who ever i came with. since it is highly unlikely that the first time machine will be built in a basement and more likely to be built by a highly funded government program i would not rule out sending out the necessary tools to do so. i doubt any government would build i time machine and then just send some one to 1928 based on trust alone. they would need to be monitored. and before anyone points out that if that is the case then why would they be on a Chaplin set. let me point out he/she doesn't look to pleased about that part.

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September 25, 1928 was the date Motorola was founded, Ironic... Motorola is now corporation now with assets of over 25+ billion $.

I'm betting that this time traveler is like those people that sit behind home plate at a baseball game
She is probably saying "Ya I'm in the movie can ya see me?"

It's been awhile since I've been here, but thbis was pretty interesting to say the least. I didn't take the time to read through every post and/or reply on all 71 pages, so forgive me if this has been brought up before ... But instead of thinking in the terms of the person in question being a time traveler .. The person could have been a "visitor". The device could be a form of communication with another "visitor" or to their ship.

Originally posted by lilmikey20
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everyone has already said this a million times and answerd ur question

61 pages in I was. didnt read all the pages.
Even the posted above said he didnt read every reply

Did not read all of the replies.
1. No cellphone towers no cellphone connection.
2. If you speak on a cellphone you must speak to someone (also a time traveller)
3. And if you travel thru time with someone aren’t you going to sight see together all that planning and booking of a timemacine.


P.S. I think it’s the ugliest of all producer sins 1928 with a VOICE RECORDER!

This can't be a communication device of any sort... it's just too small for that time.
(And too big if you presume that this could be a time traveller).

Hearing aid? Well, yes, it could be, but my bet is that this is just another viral video for who knows what.

reply to post by Bottom


The veracity of the video being from 1928 has been fairly well established throughout the thread. In fact the inclusion of such footage is mentioned on all the available materials about the DVD. Also two members (that I can recall, off hand) have verified ownership of this DVD and inclusion of the footage.

This makes a viral campaign highly unlikely.

~Heff

great clip! Further proff that Chaplin was WAY ahead of his time!.

Seriously though it's fun to speculate, but a time traveler? I think not.

A cell phone, come on. Most are only seeing a cellphone, because a)the narrotor tells you thats what it is, and b) half the people nowadays are walking around with thier hand to thier ear talking on cellphones.

I would imagine someone with Time travel abilities, would have better technology than a cell phone that looks like it's from the mid to late 90's. I mean it appears to be a failry large object (unless I'm being fooled by shadows which is VERY possible).

But again I would imagine a time traveler would have a much smaller communication device. much smaller than we have now. Possibly an ear implant.

But a fun thread none-the-less.

Remember this is outside whats supposed to be a "circus" setting; and it's deleted scenes that weren't used in the actual film. So for all we know it could be the "bearded lady, trying to cover her facial hair from the camera, as she does he daily routines.
Could be a loony talking to themselves. Or a person with a bad ear ache. Or a guy who got punched in the right side of his face holding a piece of frozen steak against it. Or a fire eater who burned his/her face holding something like a frozen steak to it, mumbling under thier breath about the pain, and the stupid mistake they made while performing.

I know...,I know all of these things sound crazy, but not even half as crazy as a "time travelling drag queen" sounds.

I mean think about it, we can't even tell if it's a man or a woman, yet some are claiming they can see through this man OR womans hand, and pick out a small cellular device in the darkest of shadows.

I really think useing Occams Razor , we can pretty much say with a great deal of certainty this is an old 1924 seimans(sp?) hearing device. Or the other even old trumpet hearing aid device. I mean people with hearing devices in thier easr do have to talk also, they don't "just" listen all day long. Also the angle of the hand upon closer inspection is waaaay more horizontal than the near vertical/downward angle people have thier hand when useing a cell. I'd imagine this helps to pic up other people voices, it your aming the device at thier face/mouth.

Again though fun clip to watch, thanks for posting it, OP!

Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by Bottom

 

The veracity of the video being from 1928 has been fairly well established throughout the thread. In fact the inclusion of such footage is mentioned on all the available materials about the DVD. Also two members (that I can recall, off hand) have verified ownership of this DVD and inclusion of the footage.

This makes a viral campaign highly unlikely.

~Heff

I'll remain skeptical until I see the original DVD.

But my biggest problem with that video is that the whole point of it is to PROMOTE something, a movie.
There are at least 5 more logical explanations about what's going on in that clip, but this guy goes with his "only theory", that this is a time traveler... i mean...yeah, right.
Typical viral advertisement stuff and it worked very well.

reply to post by Badgered1


I have this collection of DVDs. They are stored, so I am going to have to dig them out. If my memory serves me, this was not a scene from the movie. It is one of those "Extras" that are often added to a DVD. If I am correct this shot is being taken outside the premiere for the Movie, and are just random people walking past the theater.