Does the soul/energy consciousness survive a "direct hit" nuclear blast?

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ive heard of the Ra Material, but not the others, i will most definatly have to check that out sometime. Are there any other links ?

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Hi, achaiah86.

Are there any other links ?

Links to where ?

The first line of my signature is also a nice link. . . B-)

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Dom,I was going to say something snide but then again,seeing the two babes with you in your photo,I thought different of it.

You are the guy in the middle aren't you?

Of course it does.

Re-incarnation and the many incidences of children remembering information of a person entirely foreign to them proves that.

There have been if I remember correctly children born that actually remember being one of those that died in the bomb blasts.

They know details of the persons life and even can recognized living relatives of that person.

Welcome to ATS, nice question.

The answers here have been pretty good, i'd also agree that anything a nuke does is on the physical plane, and wouldn't affect any soul in any way. That being said, here's a thought, for what it's worth.

If you believe in "souls", it's not too hard to believe in other souls, like angels, or demons. Spiritual enities. How the relate the physical world is still a mystery, but i believe it's safe to say that like all things, they carry an energy, not necessarily electrical, butsimilar perhaps. I think of it as "above" our current energy limits. (IMHO it's emotion, where we as flesh can access love, etc).

With the huge range of frequencies produced by a nuke, i imagine that all levels of matter are affected. But what happens at the edges of matter? In the realm of "emotional" energy? Since we don't accept "emotion" as a scientific energy, it's hard to theorise what, if anything it would behave like, under any conditions. But, assuming there is an "emotional" energy layer, and that the spirits come from that direction at least, then somewhere we get a suspicion that maybe the soul is affected in some way.

I've heard stories that partly the reason for so many nukes is that they thin the boundaries between physical and non-physical. Then, any entities on THAT side would be able to cross into the material plane much easier than is usual. Of course, we'd be talking satanists and demon summoning, but this is ats

I was also told once that areas of high EMR (electromagnetic radiation) are "unpleasant" for spirits, like near radio towers etc. Others believe that the high energy fields produced by radio towers and nukes are enjoyed by the spirits, and it energises them. All i am certain about is that these spirits exist, and can interact on many levels, including some which for us are deadly.

I have no proof for anything i've just put forward, but it's obviously a topic where evidence is impossible. Just a few thoughts to this discussion, looking forward to more!

Originally posted by Oneolddude
Dom,I was going to say something snide but then again,seeing the two babes with you in your photo,I thought different of it.

You are the guy in the middle aren't you?

haha, Yes I am the guy in the center. I appreciate not hammering the newbie with snide comments. It is much appreciated.

Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by vincenz32

 

That is a question I have asked myself. In fact, my Avatar is a painting that addresses that VERY question.
Funny, huh?

Anyway, I did a doubletake on this thread, I thought I was the only one that had ever considered that.

Thanks again to everyone for the responses, I also thought I was the only person in the world to think about this issue. It all stems from a reading a did a while back on the internet where some guy whom definitely was respected on a conspiracy type website claimed that the soul = a form of energy that exists, even though there is no measurable means with current human technology. He also claims that the soul will be able to be monitored and studied by scientific means once a civilization is advanved enough to know greater truths. One of the things this gentleman said was that one of the reasons that ET would potentially be trying to stop anymore nuclear weapon development is because Nuclear weapons can greatly destroy and effect a soul energy, your inner essence as a person, as well as your physical meatsuit, not to mention he also said it drastically affects all dimensions of the universe in some way. shape, or form so ET or "aliens" have a very keen interest on any species that figures out E=MC2 for obvious reasons.. All of what he said of course is speculative and un-substantiated but interesting none the less. In any event, in regards to afterlife, us humans will just have to wait until the final day comes. We will either be floating around magically in another dimension or we will never even know we existed in the first place. lol

Originally posted by Oneolddude

Re-incarnation and the many incidences of children remembering information of a person entirely foreign to them proves that.

There have been if I remember correctly children born that actually remember being one of those that died in the bomb blasts.

They know details of the persons life and even can recognized living relatives of that person.

I just thought of something and would like to elaborate on what you said here. You bring up a VERy intriguing point and it reminds me of a book I read that you guys should check out: Journey of the Souls, I am not going to name the author bc I dont want anyone to think I am trying to plug it. But, what you say is eerily true. Not only do 2 to 5 year olds remember the items, places, names and familiarities of past lives but some of them can be hyponotized as children and speak 12 different languages. Some of them have even taken up cigarettes and a special kind of alcohol or whiskey etc that they enjoyed in a previous lifetime without there parents permission would find any and all means to get these relics and items. Also, the most real and scary case is the case when the child does all of the above plus has the same birthmark of the person whom they think they are re-incarnated as. They are actually born with the same identical "to a T" birthmark on there skin as the previous person they claim to be and they can even recall there EXACT previous home and location in their previous life. Pretty crazy dont you think guys?

To me, if you hypnotize a 3 year old that barely even knows and aprehended the basic english or any form of human language and all of a sudden he is speaking fluent sumerian, greek, italian, or spanish to you, he has the same birthmark as the previous incarnate, and he can tell you exactly where he lived in a previous life right down to the color of the pillow on his bed and the names of his neigbors what more proof do you need that it is VERY VERy possible we are a spiritual being living physical existences to increase our entropy through experience gained toward our consciousness, eventually to achieve a closeness to the overall and grand consciousness/oneness that some call god, the creator, him/her, or it, if you will.

Happy reading! Great book BTW!

Dom

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I just thought of something and would like to elaborate on what you said here. You bring up a VERy intriguing point and it reminds me of a book I read that you guys should check out: Journey of the Souls, I am not going to name the author bc I dont want anyone to think I am trying to plug it. But, what you say is eerily true. Not only do 2 to 5 year olds remember the items, places, names and familiarities of past lives but some of them can be hyponotized as children and speak 12 different languages. Some of them have even taken up cigarettes and a special kind of alcohol or whiskey etc that they enjoyed in a previous lifetime without there parents permission would find any and all means to get these relics and items. Also, the most real and scary case is the case when the child does all of the above plus has the same birthmark of the person whom they think they are re-incarnated as. They are actually born with the same identical "to a T" birthmark on there skin as the previous person they claim to be and they can even recall there EXACT previous home and location in their previous life. Pretty crazy dont you think guys? To me, if you hypnotize a 3 year old that barely even knows and aprehended the basic english or any form of human language and all of a sudden he is speaking fluent sumerian, greek, italian, or spanish to you, he has the same birthmark as the previous incarnate, and he can tell you exactly where he lived in a previous life right down to the color of the pillow on his bed and the names of his neigbors what more proof do you need that it is VERY VERy possible we are a spiritual being living physical existences to increase our entropy through experience gained toward our consciousness, eventually to achieve a closeness to the overally consciousness/oneness if you will.

Well done, Now you are starting to see the bigger picture, I am very proud of you. As you already know it takes some many life times to figure stuff like this out, BIG CONGRATS. Take care, now continue on living this physical life to the fullest.

Love and peace

Rick

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Rick,
Thank you brother! It is really nice and refreshing to hear stuff like that from someone else on the same baseball team and page as myself! Again, it is much appreciated. Just curious while we are on this subject. Did you ever have a chance to sit down and think about the fact were we created? or were we just always here? The way I see it is we were created, but I dont see it as someone sat down a drew up the schematics and created us. I feel more along the lines of just as a human baby grows up in life and learns from experience and mistakes I feel a SOUL or energy if you will does the same. I believe that we are in 1 stage of our soul/energy development right now. A way to explain it would be this. I think we start out as a BABY energy, just like a baby human. When our energy is first given consciousness I feel that we can start out as for instance a SEA OYSTER. A sea oyster has a yes and no choice and can open and close his shell. bad example but I hope you can see where I am going with this. i feel that just like a human grows from a baby and matures through a relatively short human life, I feel our soul infinitely develops in a similar way. I also feel that we are all completely interconnected to that oneness that we discussed before and I believe WE ARE GOD, god is us. I believe through our conscious thoughts and ideas we are what created the universe/universes, etc. and everything through our giant consciouness. There is so much explaining, not enough time in the night but I want to hear your thoughts on what I said in a more in depth way. I feel that you truly do know what you are talking about and I am VERY interested to hear your thoughts.

Dominick

Dom

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Well Dom, I must say your on the right track, I have actually set up a discussion like this in the general chit chat, you will find it on my profile, I only say this, is because not every one can understand the thing's that come from my heart and intuition, If you head over there, you can ask me any question you wish, just make sure you think the question through, to get the right response, 2 people have asked a question already, have a read first then by all means ask away

Take great care

Love and peace

rick

Yeah the sould cannot be affected by the physical world, i too thought about similar things. Like the soul of somebody who is severley mentally disabled or has learning difficulties. Do they experience a new conscious state that is not what they were used to? And then does that state mean they have lost their identity? - which is, in effect a form of ceasing to exist.

A nuclear blast isnt something i have thought about as a soul destroying thing but it would obviously seem unlikely, if you entertain that idea then you must also entertain others because a nuclear bomb is nowhere near the most destructive thing in this universe.

Originally posted by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet
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God?
I thought the OP was referring to souls.

Isn't it the same material? I'm sorry, but the idea or question of a nuclear bomb, a gun, a paper cut, whatever, as somehow harming something spiritual...doesn't make any sense.

Thats actually a good question but I think our soul will survive because we go into another dimension completely after we die.